Nimbus Hatchet - Which rim/tire size would you build?

Hi m00ms

Wow, those are pretty serious cutouts on that rim! I don’t have any experience with fat rims at all so I can’t really give any guidance – to be honest fatbikes didn’t exist the last time I built a wheel. Given it is DT Swiss I’m sure it will be a good choice.

I haven’t done anything more to decide on a rim for myself yet, I’m still keen on a carbon one, but as I said on the other thread, that is really more for the sake of it than anything else.

Be sure to post a picture when you get it built up.

They sure are impressive cut outs and sure it’ll look great once built!

I am hoping to have the rim and hub built up in the next few weeks then I can decide on tyre and brake.

Sure yes il post some photos as the build goes and likewise I’d be interested in seeing photos of yours too

In answer to the original question in this thread: Something Fat! So much talk here about putting larger but not-fat tires in a Hatchet frame. That’s basically a waste of a cool frame. It’s purpose is to contain a fat tire, and be kind to your knees. Keep it fat!

Also I noticed a lot of confusion from one of the people posting (probalby not recently) about why certain sizes aren’t fitting even though they “should”. Please be reminded that the only dimension on a bike/unicycle tire that can be expected to be exact is the BSD or Bead Seat Diameter.

This is usually expressed on most tires by the overall diameter, like 29". But that 29 inches isn’t the rim size, and isn’t the tire’s outside diameter (unless it’s in the width range that puts it close to 29"). It is a tire that fits that 29" rim, but the outside diameter is a function of the tire’s width. Wider widths usually also mean taller tires (projecting further outward from the rim), which is why 4" tires are much larger in diameter than they usually say on the side.

Meanwhile, the width measurement doesn’t necessarily tell you how wide the tire will be, in part because your rim might be wider or narrower than the “nominal” rim the tire is intended for. Plus, tire makers will often “fudge” their numbers for marketing purposes.

So the only way to really know the outside diameter, or inflated width of a given tire, is to pump one up and measure. Or hope someone else has, and posted those numbers. And remember rim width is still a variable. If their rim was wider than yours, your tire might sit taller, or be not so wide.

See, it’s as simple as that! :sunglasses:

Waste?!

Well, yes, obviously fat in the first place.
But the “much talk” was about the option of slotting a 32" wheel into an existing frame and thus get dual use out of a cool frame.
I am not sure this is a waste of a frame - and Nimbus clearly think it is worthwhile advertising it as a potential 32". Only that it doesn’t seem to work with stock tyres. I think this was comprehensively tested by DrD in the ‘approved’ way of trying it out for real.

Regarding sizes, I would be very careful indeed with anything that goes by wheel size in inches as you suggest, John, and much prefer to go with the underlying (metric) rim size and add nominal tyre width (and assuming similar height as width) as a first approximation.
As with most things cycling, Sheldon is a fantastic source of information. Tire Sizing Systems

… and sexy!

found this on instagram

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFuJ1pUHxTe/

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I finally got my hatchet put together, I picked a Surly My Other Brother Darryl rim that’s been on clearance for a long time. I wanted to go tubeless, and at the last minute decided to use a studded tire meant for my bike. The Wrathchild 4.6 doesn’t exactly go on this rim easily and you can see I do not have the tire labels lined up with the valve stem and weld (I didn’t forget just couldn’t persist through the struggle). I didn’t measure this tire, but I’m pretty sure 4.6 isn’t accurate because it looks smaller than my Bud & Lou that are marketed as 4.8. This is my first ride on a fat unicycle so I can’t compare the tire to anything else, but it feels amazing on snow and ice. It’s a bit of an adjustment because this is a new form factor for me, and I’m a bit out of shape as I haven’t been unicycling much since Thanksgiving. I’m also somewhat new to unicycling, although I did put in some miles in 2020… I don’t measure pressure but the tires on there tight and I am not worried about it burping so it’s not set up bouncy. Not sure what auto-steer feels like on a unicycle but I don’t think there is any on this it’s more resistance to turning, especially on pavement, expected for a fat tire. This is kind of an extreme tire but its a hatchet right? I have other frames to put slicks on. For now I’m going downhill, maybe the 137 cranks are too short? Right now it’s -17F but maybe later today I’ll try again.

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Hi xurbjim,

Your hatchet looks cool although not my colour but its looks great. I built a hatchet using the same rim if thats a dt swiss br 710?

I see you dont have a brake caliper on it yet so have you tried one as the spokes run close to caliper , I had to dish my rim over slightly and use a 203mm disc to get clearance.

I was drooling over the dt swiss br 710 when it came out years ago, but never got one. The rim I got is from Surly, called My Other Brother Darryl. There are a few different versions of it, and this one is for symmetrical only wheels, so it doesn’t have the 64 holes, just 32. It is the tubeless replacement for the Rolling Darryl. I’ve never used brakes on a unicycle, and haven’t tried to put a caliper on yet. It looks like there’s almost an inch of clearance between the spokes and the 160mm rotor at the top of the rotor, so hopefully that will be enough. I didn’t pay a lot of attention to dish on this wheel but I did built it in the frame so it’s probably not too far off. I didn’t imagine this would be an issue.

It’s beautiful

I’m not sure how efficient it would be but the hatchet would look amazing with a 32 inch wheel

Did you miss the above post about it not fitting?

I have to say I’m firmly in the camp of people who think that the Hatchet looks ridiculous without a fat tyre in it. Seeing it side on like the pictures above doesn’t tell the whole story.
Yeah you can fit other wheels in such a frame (I have a 26" freewheel in a 36" QX frame right now), but it always looks a bit silly, doubly so with the extra width.

i did miss that i guess

Any idea when the Nimbus Hatchet will be back in stock on unicycle.com ? I want the full 29" setup with brake but I don’t want to build it myself from parts.

OP here, life got in the way and I never wound up building the 27.5 hatchet the way I wanted. Finally stashed enough coin to make it happen and its been out of stock. I actually messaged them today with the same question and am waiting on a reply. Ill let you know what I find out.

I’d go with the fattest 26er I could fit in it. If I were going to go with something smaller I’d choose a different frame.

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Judging by other sources, I would guess July

P.S. Yes that UDC :uk: but I also read elsewhere that UDC :de: would get new stock around the same time, so perhaps UDC :us: is the same.

Just confirmed with Josh at UDC US July it is.

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could you try something like this perhaps?

Whew that’s sketchy looking. I just ordered a nextie 27.5 x 85mm double wall carbon rim, nimbus 32h 125mm hub, and a maxxis Colossus 27.5 x 4.5 for a hatchet build. Hopefully I don’t need to resort to this.

Hi unisomniac,

Do you have your frame yet ? Would love to see this once built so please attach some progress photos if you dont mind.

I also have a hatchet i built using a dt swiss br710 rim,They sure are fun to ride even thou there clumsy great things to ride!!