I think I’ll have to start calling my muni frame the Sonic Pop. Not quite as impressive as a bang.
The 36" wheel is big… so to get the right spoke angle and spoke spacing you need a wider hub. This makes a massive difference to wheel strength and frame rigidly. We were only discussing this with a rim manufacturer yesterday. They are extremely concerned with putting 36" rims on 100mm wide hubs and even more so if it has an internal disc. Nimbus does not intend to move it’s unicycle production over to the weaker alternative. The Nimbus 100mm wide frame is for a specific market of riders wanting to fit schlumpf hubs in to a 36" frame and the market demand.
Kris Holm (!) has this configuration
Qu-Ax has this configuration
I was a little surprised to see this comment by @rogeratunicycledotcom. Even if 125mm is stronger, I thought a 100mm hub was working good for these two manufacturers. Is it because it’s a weaker rim in question?
These are just facts. The maths is easy to work out and it transposes into reality when you actually compare the products. This is not to say that the QuAx or KH frames are weak, they are not, it is just that the configuration of the wheel makes it a weaker system.
Because no other hubs were available when he designed his unicycles? Which have very little evolved since the beginning.
I have a 32" Nimbus 125mm hub and a 36" QUaX 100mm with internal disc. Ok, not the same wheel size, but it’s amazing how the 36" feels “rubbery” compared to the stiff 32. It’s not a scientific comparison, just my feeling.
KH36 was developed years after the Nimbus 36". Kris made the decision to the same hub as his other unicycles. With out a disc it is well within the tolerance for modern wheels with strong rims. Although it is interesting that mountain bikes have been widening their wheel geometry recently.
There has been quite a bit of development in the 36" market over the years… when you look at a 36" unicycle from 20 years ago, it is considerable different.
The solution is to have strong (and relatively heavy rims). The current unicycles with the narrow systems do not have a strength problem like the old Coker unicycles. The conversation with the rim factory was about making the rim lighter and this is where they expressed their concern with the narrower systems.
Ok, this makes sense
Interesting. In that case, perhaps I will buy some spirit cranks
So if I read this correctly. If I am planning to build a 36" with 100mm bearing pitch (which I am because I just bought the new M4O frame), it would still be preferable to do it KH style and have the outboard braking system with Spirit cranks. This should at least be stronger (from a wheel perspective) to having inboard disk.
Side note. I am now wondering if you are planning your own cranks, similar to the Spirit ones to use with your new frame. Though I can understand if you skip over and do not want to comment on this question.
Would be interesting, what @MAD4ONE has to say about there decision concerning the 100 mm wide hub and about internal vs external brake system.
I wanted the goblin and tornado stickers from unicycle.uk. but the shipping costs are 20£. And now with the brixit in effect I will have to but from Germany hence forth. Too bad, I think.
Could be worse, than buying from Germany.
Of course. Generally it’s fine. But uk has got somethings de dont have.
The shadow handle bars e.g.
Well if you buy the handle bar AND the stickers, you will probably find the shipping more reasonable. Yeah it doesn’t work to buy internationally for one or two very small light things but if you buy a lot the pricing is not that bad.
Naturally. but I have been trying to get a «review» on them from someone who has them. I understand there is a newer version of them.
What I want to know is how much weight I can safely hang from them and what seats i can use with them.
The idea is to make a touring cycle of sorts.
Hi @Brian87, The shadow handle bar can probably handle as much weight as you care to ride with. It fixes using the front and rear screws of your seat, it’s solid and works fine with the KH Fushion freeride but won’t work with some other seats, particularly if they don’t have 4 screws to attach a regular seatpost. What seat are you thinking of using?
No, we are keeping with straight and leave the KH with the options with a q-factor. They are excellent cranks, just used in the right place.
125 wide hub with VCX cranks is the same width as KH hub and cranks. So swapping these over gives you either very wide or narrow. So covers all bases.
Oh my gosh and THAT rim! How is it?
P.S. I got my frame today but I am going to have to wait a while before I can source other parts, e.g. a rim.
P.S. Side note. I also ordered another frame at the same time, so that I could put this together for one of my kids (and yes I am doing the typical parent thing, where I force my hobbies on to them! )
You got a very nice one too!
No problems with the Braus rim so far - it’s my only 36" rim so I can’t make any comparisons.
Well I have to say yours finalised looks amazing. I hope you are enjoying it!
P.S. I wonder if you are the first one (outside of the M4O team themselves) to try out the frame. You probably are!
EDIT: And @UniMyra just pointed out which “Ben” you are and I feel silly. I guess you had this for a while?