Car accident analysis -- tell your accident stories

The purpose of this thread is to describe auto accidents you have either personally been in, or have witnessed with your own eyes, then analyze them and see what we can learn from the experience. Let’s keep it to those accidents we’ve actually been in or seen, to keep things more accurate. Every time I get an accident described to me by someone that wasn’t there, the story usually doesn’t make sense, or has holes in it. Even from people who were there, they often leave out key parts, such as how the driver was changing radio stations just before the crash. Be honest and accurate, You can leave out the names if you want.

The long-term purpose of this thread is to save lives, and hopefully make you a safer, more aware driver.

I got the idea for this thread from the Critical Mass thread. It got me thinking how uneducated many drivers are. Every time somebody tells me about an accident they were in, aside from usually distorting the facts to minmize wrongdoing on the part of the driver (even if it wasn’t them), they also tell it as if they’d never heard of a similar accident situation.

Sadly, most auto accidents are of common types that happen thousands of times every day. I think if people knew more about the commonest types of accidents, and just how common they are, they would be less likely to participate in them. So who would like to go first?

About 5 years ago I was pulling a trailer that had been improperly loaded with an inadequate vehicle. I had the trailer for years, but had only pulled it with a truck, and with little to nothing weight wise. I had sold the truck and that day was pulling with a Jeep Wrangler TJ.

I had some granules loaded on the truck. I had 100 10lb bags. Unfortunately they were all loaded in front of the wheels. I didn’t think much of it since it seemed like nothing on the trailer.

I was pulling the trailer down a hill and around a curve to the left. I was doing 40mph and letting the engine slow the vehicle as I was going down the hill. The trailor started pushing against the jeep at the hitch and I mistakingly tapped the brakes. I started jack knifing into oncoming traffic. I put the brake to the floor and braced for the impact of the BMW that was about to broadside me.

Trailer, Jeep and BMW 525 totalled. The occupant in the BMW was knocked out and spent about a week in the hospital. If you havn’t checked lately that is pretty pricey. Next year will be the last payment of my settlement. I had insurance that covered $100,000 and the lawsuit was for twice that. After the insurance company agreed to pay the full amount and replace his car, the were essentially out of the picture. They had nothing more to loose. I on the other hand was looking at possibly comming out of pocket another $100,000. I eventually settled for $30,000 over 5 years rather than go to court.

My mistakes.

  1. Pulling a trailer with a short wheel based vehicle.
  2. Improperly loading the trailer.
  3. Not accelerating when I noticed the trailer acting the way it was.
  4. Being under insured. I was 2 levels above the state minimums. Thought that was more than enough. Now I have the highest limits and an umbrella policy. It will take me a long time to repay the insurance company for the cost of the accident through my premiums. Fortunately the penalty period is over and I have a clean driving record for 5 years again. The extra $30,000 was an expensive education, but an invaluble one that I am happy to pass along to anyone who will listen. Too many people look at insurance as a rip off. If I had the insurance I have now at the time of the accident, I would have had a whole year of my life back. The worry of possibly loosing your house, cars, savings, business etc… can really take you out of the game.

Changing any one of the mistakes above would have either prevented the accident, or prevented the stress the accident caused for hte folllowing year.

About 5 to 6 years ago.

I was getting picked up from school, and me and my family were gonna go down to our grandparents house that day. It was me, in the fornt passenger seat, and my two sisters in the back seats. My mom was driving, and my dad couldnt go cause of work.

We are only about a block away from where I was picked up, and I was putting my seatbelt on. At that time, we were at a intersection. Not a busy one, but a silent side-street intersection. Looking for any cars coming, and we dont see any, so we start to pull out, we get almost across the street and BAM!!!

A car came flying into us and hit the rear of the van, and it was before I could even buckle up, so my face got thrown into the dashboard, some tiny ligaments were torn in my right cheek. My mom had her belt on, but it gave her some bruises from the jolt. My sisters came out with no injuries.

At the time of the wreck, after I smashed my face, I kinda blacked out, but also went tunnel visioned at the same time. Cause I remember opening my door, getting out, and walking to the nearest yard and sat on their lawn. But when I did that, I dont remember seeing it happen, but I remember doing it. I came out of the blackout/tunnel vision once I sat on the grass.

Everybody else got out of the van and came to the grass too. Some neighbors came out to see what happened, and some boy that was friends with my older sister, Jordan, ran out with some ice packs that he gave to me to put on my face.

Once we kinda all ‘came to’ and could fully realise what just happened, we noticed are van was a wreck. It was spun about 270 degrees, and the back windows where blown out. The rear of the car was also largely dented and smashed up.

It was the other drivers fault, and he even said so and admitted it. He was speeding and didnt slow or stop at the intersection, and somehow didnt see us crossing it, and rammed right into us. So even though we were following the driving laws, except me, cause I choose to not buckle up until we got to that intersection, but got hit before I was buckled, he was the one that came speeding down the block and wasnt paying attention.

Thats the only wreck I have been in, and I was pretty young when it happened. We got some money form the guy who hit us, and I went and bought some new Sega games to play. :smiley:

I was on the way to school. I rear-ended someone and totalled both cars.

I got rear ended in traffic/construction. The people in front of me slammed on their brakes, I slammed on mine, the people behind me didn’t. They had at least 3 seconds to safely react, and they didn’t act for about a second after that. I’ve thought about stuff I could have done to prevent this, but most of the things were out of my control. I couldn’t stop the people in fron tof me stopping, or the people behind me not stopping.

Early this year, January I think, I had my first and only car accident.

It was at a funky intersection that I hadn’t become used to yet. An oncoming car put on their left blinker to signal to change lanes, which I mis-interpreted as a signal to make a left turn (It was the intersection’s fault, I swear). Long story short, I pulled out in front of them and we had a slow collision accident. The dent in our cop car (Crown Victoria) pulled right out, the other lady’s front bumper fell off.

Moral of the story: If someone has their blinker on, assume that they are really going to go straight.

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This is one of our treeplanting vehicles, only a few of us in the camp are licensed to drive it. I drove one of these for 2 years. I had since been given my own crew so I was no longer the driver when this happened.

It was about 5:30AM, and we were heading due east on a busy gravel haul road on a foggy morning in late July, as well, there was a forest fire approximately 8 km away. This is about the worst combination of driving conditions possible. Only a muddy road could have made it worse.

At 5:30 in the middle of summer in northern BC, the sun is just rising. Since the sun rises in the east, we were driving straight into it. I’m sure you know what happens when you add fog into that equation. It was on gravel so throw some dust in the mix, and then a forest fire throws up quite a bit of smoke, so that really didn’t help the situation. All I could see was white. I couldn’t see past the windshield wipers. I was driving really slow, and could see the headlights of this truck in my mirror; he was right behind me. I suddenly felt my front right tire start to sink in the soft shoulder which fell off into a fairly deep ditch.

I managed to get back on the road, but few seconds later, as I crossed a bridge (which you can kinda make out in the pic), I no longer could see the truck behind me. I stopped on the other side of the bridge, and after a few minutes, still nothing.

It turned out that he hit the same spot I did but wasn’t able to get his truck back out. He ended up tipping it over on its side, less than 2 minutes after leaving camp. Of the 10 people in the truck (there are 11 seats with a seatbelt), only 6 were wearing a seatbelt. It’s fortunate nobody was hurt.

Earlier that morning, I had talked with my supervisor telling him how bad it was to be driving at that particular time because of the zero visibility (this was the third day we drove in the same kind of conditions) and requested that for the next day we either leave a half hour earlier or a half hour later (that makes all the difference with the sun). Too bad it had to happen, it could have been avoided so easily.

Here’s a picture of the truck I drove for 2 years when it was still new. The one tipped over above is similar.

OK, this only happened this week, so it is pretty fresh in my mind.

First up, this is set in Australia, so we drive on the left over here.

I was cycling to work on Tuesday morning. I was riding down a Secondary road which has three speed humps on it, they are flat on the top and double up as pedestrian crossings. They also narrow the road down to a single lane each way.

As I approached the third one of these, a queue of cars had slowed down. I started to overtake them on the left (which cyclists are legally allowed to do as long as no car is turning left or indicating left). I approached the lead car as he was starting to exit the speed hump, at this point he decided he wanted to pull over into the parking lane. He proceeded to do so without indicating.

I tried to move with him (while leaning on the brakes) but collected his wing mirror on the way past, this knocked me over onto my left and I ended up sliding across the ground. I lost skin on my left forearm and left hip. I was wearing a helmet which doesn’t have a scratch on it.

We exchanged details and I finished my ride to work. I am still a bit sore, but healing.

What could have been done to prevent this.

  1. The Driver should have indicated his intention to pull over.
  2. He should have checked his blind spot and checked he was clear to his left. Even when you are 100% sure that nothing should be in your way when you change lanes, you should still check your mirrors and blind spot to MAKE sure. This would have saved me a lot of skin.

This sort of thing happens a lot to me, not getting knocked off, but motorists not thinking that a cyclist could be to their left when they change lanes.

James

So it was snowy and therefore slippery. After school. A girl was crossing the street, so a van was stopped in the intersection to let her go across. We were right behind this car. Another car was coming in the street perpendicular to ours, and it was slippery so it couldn’t stop for the van in the middle of the intersection, so said car swerved to avoid it but in avoiding it it slammed into the side of ours…kinda sucked.
Could’ve been prevented either by the first van not having stopped in the middle of the intersection, or the car that hit ours not driving quite as fast on a snowy slippery day.

I got another one too, it happened like ten years ago so I don’t remember very well but here…sixth street in Moscow is a really really steep hill. A car was going down this hill, and a biker had just ridden off of a side street to cross sixth street, and the car hit the biker. Since its a steep hill and the car was going really fast anyway, it must’ve hurt extra bad.
This one could have been prevented if the biker had looked before zooming out into the street, or the car having the brakes on down the super steep hill instead of coasting.

Why?

In other words, please tell the story. Use Bugman’s example as a guide, his was better than I would have expected from anyone. He kind of blew the ending right at the beginning, but was very honest about the combination of mistakes that led up to his accident. The bright point is that nobody was killed.

You may have been following too close. I would venture to guess that you were following too close, for two reasons:

  1. Most people follow too close
  2. You had to slam on your brakes.

If the car in front of you fully locked 'em up, you’d no doubt have to brake really hard no matter what. But the more space you have, the less hard you need to react to stuff happening in front of you. You were in a construction zone. How fast were you (all) going? Though most people don’t slow for construction zones, there is often less space to maneuver, so it pays to leave more space around you.

Sometimes the car behind you doesn’t want to leave a decent amount of space. If you can’t get them to go around you (slowing down a little usually takes care of this), leave more space in front of you so you don’t have to brake as hard in an emergency.

This accident was only marginally your fault. But you did have the option to hedge your bets a little more. Is there anything else that might be learned from this very common, easy-to-describe type of accident?

I’m not familiar with the terminology “silent side-street intersection.” Does that mean stop sign for your car but no stop sign for the cross street, or an “uncontrolled” intersection; meaning one with no stop or yield signs at all?

Anyway, sounds like you are describing a “car came out of nowhere” scenario. This is what happens when we don’t see something that we probably should have. Did the other car come from the side? Which side? As always, glad nobody was seriously hurt.

And yet your mom didn’t see him either. This type of accident usually only happens if both drivers don’t notice each other. If your mom noticed him she may have waited (unless he was supposed to stop and she assumed he would). If the other guy saw you pull out, he may have been able to stop or go around you. Wonder what he was doing to be so unaware of a car directly in front of him? Was he supposed to stop at the intersection?

How are you on putting on your seatbelts now, several years later? I have been guilty of the same thing you were doing. A friend of mine even called “Fossing up” the way I would put on my seat belt after I started driving. But usually the belt was on before the car was moving above parking lot speeds. Not that you can’t get hit real hard at any speed…

It wasn’t on a busy street. It was in a rural area where bearly any cars drive though. The road is wide enough for it to be a two way, but most people drive in the middle, and there are also no markers painted in the road to split it into two ways. There was also no stop/yield signs at the intersection.

It came from the right side. Im glad we didnt get injured badly either. :smiley:

My mom did look to see if cars were coming, and I always look too, just as a habit, and I remember no car was coming from all directions. I wonder what he was doing too, cause it would be hard to miss a minivan crossing the road. I am not sure if he is by law suppose to stop, but I know that he was supposed to slow down when reaching the intersection. Which he clearly didnt.

I put it on right after I shut the door to the car. Sometimes I dont put it on for a few seconds, but I put them on as soon as I can now. Learned my lesson by waiting for a while to put them on. lol

I put the seat belt on about thirty seconds after closing the door. I use those thirty seconds to open the door again to release the seat belt that became trapped the first time I closed the door.

Nao

That happens with me, except its my hair that gets shut in the door…

I honestly didn’t think I was following too close…I was making sure to leave a good amount of space too. My judgement could easily have been wrong though.

Yeah, don’t run from the police.

Uhh…because he stopped in front of me for no apparent reason and I didn’t react quick enough cause it was 6:00 in the morning.

No apparent reason is not a justification. He may have see a kid, about to run into the road, that you have not seen. After all your view is blocked by his car, especially if following too close. I think you need to keep a distance such that you can stop without braking harshly, even if he suddenly drops anchor. At 6.00 am traffic is usually light, so is there a need to drive close? At 6.00 am if you are not awake properly, should you be driving?
I think it is easily possible to drive defensively, thus avoiding most of those accidents caused by someone else. Maybe not the most exciting way to drive, but a possible life saver. I don’t want my last thought to be “It wasn’t my fault”.

/end lecture…sorry, carried away. A friend is still struggling with two broken legs from an accident that was not her fault. She will be OK in a few weeks though.

P.S. A thought: in the US drivers can hold a licence from 16? Yes? US drivers can drive, on UK roads, with a US licence. UK licence holders must be 17. Can a US 16 year old drive on UK roads with a US licence?

Nao

I lived …
took me another 14 years before I quit drinking …

This is a photo of me at 21 - in 1981
The car is a 1970 Impala…

I … ‘impailed the Impala’ … into a concrete light support

The engine was pushed under the car.
The front bumper was only 16 inches from the windshield

These cars are TANKS… look what I did to it !

There are many lessons in life to learn …

… for those of you who think you will beat the odds…
(drinking and driving)

… it will catch up to you lol

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Uh oh. Intersections shouldn’t require getting used to. But I’ve been to many places that have “traffic logic” that doesn’t seem to make sense, confusing signs, or missing signs that cause similar confusion. Can you describe what makes this intersection special?

It would have to be a really, really bad piece of road for this to be true in court…

In any case, I can’t understand what happened. You expected the oncoming car to turn but it merely changed lanes. How did you manage to have a slow collision with an oncoming car? Definitely sounds a little weird.

That’s good advice. My version is, if someone has their blinker on, assume that they might turn or change lanes, but don’t try to predict when or where.

Common when I lived in New York (denser, more hyper traffic). You’re waiting to pull out of a parking lot or side street. A car coming from your left has his right turn signal on. Do you go? Not until you know exactly where that car’s turning. There are so many driveways along the main roads in western Long Island it could be the one to your right…