Build your own rim

I wanted to build a new 36" ultimate wheel.
There are two rim options:

  1. Heavy and expensive Stealth II rim for 139€ + shipping
  2. 2 x light weight DT swiss 533d rim for 2 x 40€ and DIY like I did with the DT swiss 466d 7 years ago: Leichtbauthread

So here are the DT swiss 533d rims:

But wait…

These are new rims. Warranty void if seal is broken. Proceed? Definitely yes!

That looks so much better now:

Wrong size! Expand the small 28" 28 hole rim:

Rebuild my bending machine for the DT swiss 533d (as now it is set up for bending the Mavic CXP rim, which didn’t work out so good).
I used the bench grinder and a jig saw to fit a metal plate to the exact dimensions of the rim’s cross section and used this metal plate to groove the pom rollers. (The scratches on the plate were created after everything was finished):

3 bending rollers are required. Number one:

The holes for the bearings are prepared:

Perfectly fits the outside of the rim. Roller 1 is finished:

Roller 2 & 3 get an additional groove to center- mount the roller propulsion:

Unfortunately I have no pictures where I created the aluminium roller propulsion parts. The roller propulsion fits perfectly into the center mount:

Machining the inside profile of the rim:

Perfectly fits the rim (maybe the groove is much too deep, because I had much better results concerning stressed eyelets with DT swiss 466d, wooden rollers 2&3 and not so deep grooves, but wooden rollers break after 1 rim):

But wait, rim’s eyelets require space:

The eyelets have space now:

Drilling the propulsion mounts not too deep:

Tapping works in this short hole because I made the screws even shorter:

The DT swiss 533d rim bending construction set:

Bearings inserted:

The chain drive with my 6 tooth sprocket will have a force increase of 24/6=4 :

Machining the 6 tooth sprocket took 3 tries some years ago:

Propulsion mounted exactly in the center:

Sprockets mounted:

Roller axis M16 with adjustable chain drive hight:

Mount and counter nut it on the vice:

The bending machine:

The cordless screwdriver propells all:

Let’s go. Press the button to go from 28" to 36", I do it in many passes:

End dimensions reached at the mark:

Nearly done:

80cm, that’s it:

Cut it, it is just half of a 36" rim:

I turned titanium pins to ~3.94mm on the lathe and bent them by pressing on the floor, heated with a fire torch:

36" radius pins, the scrap rim parts help:

Grinding both halves simultaneously to a perfect fit and length takes much time, interrupted by tire mount tests:

Loctite the pin inserts in place:

That’s it 2 x 36":

The weight of 36" converted rims:

  1. DT swiss 466d is 619g (2 x 18€ special offer, 28"/28h very seldom available, best bending results, rigid enough for workdays jump mounts for the last 7 years)

  2. DT swiss 533d is 767g (2 x 40€, 28"/28h is standard, higher system load than the 466d)


  3. Stealth II is 1090g-1130g (139€ + shipping), 42mm wide.

:exploding_head::

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Impressive !
I al sure that you could get a few orders if the process is not overly time consuming… :thinking:

Wow! This is impressive and I find your elegant bending machine truly fascinating. So faschinating that I read your entire guide three times without any intentions of ever building one myself :sweat_smile:Thanks for sharing the entire process!

Are you able to easilly adjust the gap to make even bigger rims, i.e. a 48" UW?

Yeah, now you can start mass producing Ulkimate Wheels :star_struck:

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Excellent! I love your use of the vice, very clever. :man_student:

Well, I created one more. I still have to make 4 pins for it. Now it is like the traveling rim from @saskatchewanian: traveling-36er-take-down-wheel
My first rim runs very true, but I don’t know how true this one runs due to my grinding.

As UW that sounds Interesting. My first DT swiss 466d rim had no stress on the eyelets. The 533d has some stress and the Mavic CXP had a bit too much. I would have to find out why my first rim was that good. The UW has the advantage that it doesn’t require i.e. 36 eyelets (my self-built rims have 36). I think the bending should work.
36" compared to 48" has one real advantage for me. When I stand on the ground with the wheel between my legs, my nuts still have some clearance.
When I ask AI how to build a 36" rim it certainly tells me that it is impossible. I got the same answer on the question how to build a 42" air tire. I know it is possible if some really wants to, same with the rim. @saskatchewanian made interesting tests to create own air tires, but they weren’t lasting long yet. When we copy the industrial process, it shoult work if we really really want to.
I am about to finish my 36" UW. It is nearly ready, but I think I want to change the crank section to try real zero Q factor.

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Do you think it’s possible to weld the rim? Or could I order a custom sized rim from you?

It did take a long time for better quality tires to evolve from the 70s limited choice
available to local bicycle shops back then tires were heavy and low pressure or glued on baloney skins Uni was never promoted so only individuals who had imagination and time to tinker helped improve ride quality
I can hope that i live to see the day when 36 x 28 o 32 Conti Gatorshell tire
with a skinny presta tube that is made to fit and easy to change
mounted on a Mavic SUP 36 rim with 40 stainless DB 14 15 14 spokes

You may say I am A Dreamer …But I’m NOT the only One

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I hope some day you will get that
And your uni will roll on one…

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Sorry, the answer took some time.
I created an ultimate wheel where I welded this new rim:
ultimate-wheel-build

We all have no time, it depends how interesting the projects are :wink:
The simple bending process takes no time (what I said I have), but the things around are not automized yet. For 36" my bending diameter is about 80cm. To be sure, I always adjust the circumference to a real tire. So it could start by building a stitched/glued tire. Just keeping in mind that this rim wall is only 5mm high, not much space for stitching.
What would be a custom size, 42"/47"/…, how many spoke holes as the DT swiss 533d has a bit less than 1 hole per inch (48" = 48 holes, i guess) or an ultimate wheel build without spokes?