Yeah I know, just thought I’d ask. FWIW, I invested into the sport BEFORE there were a lot of 26" options! (My first MUni was a 26er which I had to piece part together with quite a bit of effort) Now the pendulum has swung the other way! That is all within a few years, a sign of how quickly our sport is changing! Still, I’ve got a slightly used 24x3 Duro, and a brand new 24x3 Gazz waiting for me so I should be good in the 24" realm for a while longer. After that I’ll look into throwing some more $$$ at a 26" KH frame and rim set. If I do that I’m pretty sure I’ll go with a narrower 26" tire. I’m really starting to think Kris Holm is on to something (surprise, surprise). Still I want a MUni set-up that is nimble and tight for the rough trail system I have to ride all the time; I think a 26x3 would be too much (more like a 28er). You wouldn’t think a couple of inches would make a difference but I can tell when I ride the tight and buff single track around here. I’d love to have a 29er too, but that would be a nightmare to ride around Monte Sano!
Got a few more rides in the Minion, what can I say, the tire is awesome! I was able to descend to hills I’d never made with at least one UPD, the bigger hill is long, very rooty, rutted, some drops, and I cleaned it no problem. The biggest thing I notice about the Minion is that it feels very light and it is quick, way quicker than any other tire I’ve ridden. Even my son liked the feel and he’s used to riding an Intense DH 24 x 3. I run mine at 16# for my 20# body weight, this works well for everything, though a lower volume would be less bumpy when I’m tires. Sticky tread, climbs anything, I won’t go back to the Duro or any other 3", I’m with Chris on the narrower tire thing, it works.
Did you all read about the new WTB Dissent? Loks nice for 29ers if you get the the HD version.
Cool! I’ll have to pick one up! Sounds like the tire i’ve been looking for.
anyone know where to get a good 26 tire? my duro 26x3 is already showing wear only after 1 week of riding.
Have you read any of this thread?
The last few posts have been about the 26" Maxxis Minion front DH tyre. Apparently it works well. The only other tyre I’ve used on my muni apart from 3" Duros (which I like, BTW) is a 2.1" Ritchey Z-Max, which is nice and light and works well in mud (good frame clearance with a narrow tyre) but is really a bit too puny for anything but very light xc.
Rob
If this is going to be the “official” MUni tire thread we might as well link to some existing MUni tire threads.
Of-course info in each thread is wider than their title since we tend to wonder off topic a bit here.
I wanted to get a minion but I couldn’t find any 24x2.5 or 2.7 so I got a holy roller 2.7. It’s has similar tread pattern to the minion but I think it’s made as a front tyre however a minion is a rear tyre. Not sure exactly sure what he difference but I think front tyres grip better round corners (because on a bike you’d rather your rear wheel slide than your front). I think minions are more of a dry tyre (lower rolling resistance, less grip, lighter) Whereas high rollers are an all round tyre.
Anyway I love my holy roller. It seems to grip everything pretty well except loose pine needles. I like having a 2.7 not a 3". I will probably get a 2.5 for my next tyrel. 3" is too wide, it’s just too heavy, the small amount of extra grip isn’t worth it, and in muni you never need that much air in your tyre unlike trials. You’re not dropping to flat concrete or anything flat even if you are doing drops.
doing downhill means a lot of landing on aslope rough rocks, rolling and droping on / over roots and needle stones and to protect my rim and tube I need for technical sektions the same or more pressure than trialing.
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the result of that downhill was a snake bite:(
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may be other muni rider have other technics
I got really high pression in my Muni tire, just because when I do drops I dont want to hit my rim, and I only have a 2.6" tire…
Didn’t you just learn to ride?
If you ride a Duro exclusively on asphalt, it’ll wear quicker, but in one week of riding you don’t have much wear.
Don’t worry about tire wear, a lower tread sticks better and it won’t hurt your riding until you get on some hairy trails with thick mud and nastiness.
My son has a full year of riding on his 24" muni and the Duro tire was used to start, still riding it and it looks fine.
I’ve been on the search for a tire that rides like the Intense DH 24 x 3", finally scored a deal on an Intense DH 26 x 2.7.
This is a discontinued tire from last year, but the mfg had some leftover, so I got it cheap. I shoudl have it in a week or so, will post a review at that time.
Still riding the Minion, it’s a nice tire overall, but it does have a little too much regularity in the cross cut lugs, so not enough centerline effect, which makes it ride “choppy” on firm surfaces.
If the Intense tire works out, I may try the FRO version, which is a lighter casing.
eric found a new tire
i will order it:D
so, i’ve been riding the Tioga Factory Dh 2.30 (26") for quite a while now, and i would have to say that it’s my favorite tire to date. the actual measurements of the casing when mounted on the nimbus muni (kh2005?) rim are 2.375 wide by 2.25 tall. the tire has fairly stiff sidewalls and has serious bite (i think it’s probably @ about 25 psi for optimal mud traction for my 195lbs). it seems equally at home for urban trials and the slick, wet and rocky trails i have at my disposal.
this tire bites much better through the leaves and on wet roots than some of the softer “performance” compounds i have used. the profile is fairly round, but it has a nice edge for controlled slides and cornering in mud or other loose surfaces. this is one of those tires that really punches through wet leaves to grip whatever is underneath. the ride is pretty decent for it’s size, it feels pretty plush. if i’m doing a lot of hopping on hard, off-camber surfaces, or large drops, i’d probably want a little more pressure.
although i’ve been looking at the minion, this tire has impressed me enough i think i’ll go for either tioga dh comp in a 2.5, or the tioga white tiger if i can find them in the us.
(the white tiger has a very similar tread pattern, but has additional knobs for less rolling resistance, slow rebound rubber, and apparently from what the reviews say the sidewalls are quite stout. seems like it could be an excellent ride)
They sound good. My friend uses them for DH biking.
I just looked at the mesurements nurse ben gave for the minion, and it appears the tioga factory downhill 2.3 is actually slightly bigger (and my measurement was just the casing, not casing and knobbies). I guess the tioga measurements are a little less ‘optimistic’. I have a hunch that this means the tioga factory dh 2.5 (and maybe any tioga 2.5) will truly be a 2.5.
Also, are most 3" tires only really 2.5??
Has anyone here ridden the Bontrager ‘Big Earl’? It seems like I could be an easily available choice for those who want a high volume tire. It comes in two tread compounds, and seems to be available in sizes from little over 2" up to 2.8". I have no idea how accurate those mesurements are though.
WTB wierwolf 29 2.55
any good?
better than the stout?
Thin sidewalls
The Weirwolf has very thin side walls. Essetially, if you’re looking to muni, sidewalls and a wire bead will make the tire stiff enough that it stands up off the rim without sagging. The Navegal is a good choice for 29er.
And yes, 3" tires are not really three inches wide, and tire mfds are not good at numbering tires by true size, either over or under measuring.
Generally a tire will be close to the same width as it is tall.
a lot depends on the rim. my gazza 26" x 3" on the 65mm large marge rim has 82mm -more than 3"
i am fully aware of that, however most unicyclists are already riding rims wider than most dh bike rims. i’m curious to know how these tyres are spec’d. if i go through my collection of various 2.3 or 2.35 tyres, they probably vary by an inch with most of the tires being a bit smaller than the size stated on the sidewall.
if people post a tyre, it would be great if they would post the height and width of the tire they are running, and what rim it is on so there is a solid reference point. i’d be curious to know the actual dimensions of any 3" tyres ppl are riding on a standard rim.