Non UDC companies

Wow, that was an interesting read haha… I gotta say well done Julia, you done us proud :P.

I have a high experience with a very wide range of unicycles, but mainly koxx-one, KH and NIMBUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

I’m gonna keep this short :P… Nimbus is GREAT!!! Its fantastic :). They make good unicycles for street/trial learners. But Nimbus trials unicycles are worth exactly as much as they cost…

This is one of the best threads I’ve read in a long time.

First… 2 things to do.

  1. Thank you Julia for making one of the most interesting discussion threads we have had for ages.
  2. I would also like to openly apologise to you if felt I was getting at you, that was never my intention at all. People who know me will know what actually upset me, it was the Wallmart comment (thank you SpaceFmK for your explanation and apology, it is gracefully received).

In the trials area we have been, on the whole, aiming at producing a reliable but very affordable unicycle. This is the Nimbus Trials. It has changed as times have moved on. It started with cotterless cranks (before ISIS or splined cranks were seen on unicycles). It moved to ISIS and was fitted with the lightweight Qu-Ax cranks, this kept the price down and was only good for light weight riding really. We changed to the Ventures, these have been mixed… they have been very sensitive to thread stripping, hence recommending for harder riders to switch them out. Recently made a big change, we have designed a new rim super strong rim, a new lighter weight hub and redesigned and reprocessed (is that a word?) the ventures so that they should be have comparable strength to any of the other topend cranks at the same weight.
When I made my comment about the Nimbus Wheelset I was talking about this wheel, and I do believe that you would be pushed to find any off-the-shelf wheelset as strong.

Nimbus has traditionally stayed away from Aluminium frames, leaving these to KH and others to work with. The Ti frame was produced over 5 years ago and was one of the first purpose built Street frames on the market. It is certainly a high end frame and moved the market on dramatically, being both very light and very strong. It was designed for what the street riders were doing at the time (I agree with Julia that the frame is less appropriate for modern tricks).

We have also just released the Equinox. It is very very new. It uses the same design as the Eclipse frame that has done so well on the freestyle side of things and make it available to street riders. Lets see how it goes…

Thank you everyone for the comments on sponsorship. This could be another topic all together. Although a lot of UDC sponsorship is for events, UDC do sponsor riders as well, but it is done on a country by country basis. Generally we aim to pick up-and-coming riders and help them to progress. In the UK we have purposefully tried to pick one rider from each disciplines who we think would be helped by sponsorship.

Roger

+1

I agree totally. Qu-Ax are not low end. They are a fantastic part of the world of unicycling and they have moved unicycling forward in leaps and bounds.

If we have a horary award for “Unicycle Heroes” I would nominate Egon Becker.

Roger

I would nominate John Foss :slight_smile:

Wow this thread is diverse!
Yes - there are a number of “heros” in the unicycling community that generally stay behind the scenes, but without whom our sport could never be where it is today. Egon is one, John is another, Roger is one himself, and the Cotter family is another, just to name a few.

In terms of equipment, the unicycling brands most involved with the riding community generally understand that the biggest barrier to growth is not each other, it’s the size of the market. So we carve out our niches and try to contribute as best we can in those areas.

Kris

Kris you are a hero of the unicycle work also

I have a Qu-Ax 29" with the red isis hub and Qu-Ax lightweight 145 cranks, although this is marketed as a lightweight setup not for big drops it handles anything I can throw at it.

+1

This is indeed the best thread I have read through in a while here in the forum. It was quite informative and also had some videos :slight_smile:

I especially found Julia’s post about how she got her unicycle to be of great importance. While you might be creating the worlds best unicycle - It will not be of great commercial value without marketing.
There are many different ways to market your products and some of the big differences between the various manufacturers is in the way they will market and distribute their products.
Nimbus unicycles of qu-ax unicycles could be compared to toyota cars (at least here in my small country). They are great rides, affordable, well built. In most cases they are not “sexy” or target the extreme riders. Toyota also has a different brand - Lexus, which caters the needs of a different high-end audience. Qu-Ax has QX products and UDC has a great range of high-end products as well, but while toyota made a smart choice to totaly differentiate the brands - in the unicycling world this is not totally the case.
KH / Impact are Lamborghinis - every one wants to have one and they look great - but they cater the needs of a very specific audience (which is a big part of this forum). But please keep in mind that the forum holds a little over 20’000 users (100-200-300 active?) but I would estimate (and I am guessing a little here) - unicycle sales yearly around the globe to be in millions.

This might be a reason for UDC to invest less in the kind of marketing julia is looking for. But it certainly should not hurt UDC to invest some thought about how they can not only create great unicycles but also create a great name for their in-house brand.

I do believe sending Julia the best street / trial unicycle you have for testing would be one step in the right direction :wink: and might bring her back to the interesting discussion here :smiley:

And one final point - I find it remarking that 2 of the people helping to shape the present and future of unicycling (Roger and Kris) participate in forum discussions like that - +1 for that

Well Said Raffi!

Very elloquently stated!

Sorry to bring back a dead thread but this is one of the best discussions I’ve ever seen. I’ve only been on the forum for not even a year but how come there’s nothing like this anymore? :frowning:

I think there can be - just look how this one evolved. Stick around and there will be quite a few more to come, I think…

Kris

Kris,
I just wanted to say, “Thank you” for participating in these discussions, “Thank you” for putting out your excellent book, and “Thank you” for everything you’ve done to advance our sport!

If you want one person arguing against another (or group arguing) you may want to visit Just Conversation section of the forums.

I don’t want arguments I just want a good discussion.

It happens from time to time. Did you miss the thread about the Flatland competition at Unicon? There’s some interesting stuff in there about how these big events are organized.

What can I say, I guess I just have a knack for starting “good discussions” (read: arguments). :stuck_out_tongue:

Here are a couple more:
Updated IUF Rulebook - Flatland Concern
New Mad4One Parts - Disk Brake Hub and More!

I’m sorry to bring this up, but here is another very interesting thread: Are either of these uni's yours?? (Stolen?)

I’ve had my nimbus 2 for four years now, and I think nimbus is the best for freestyle, having tried nearly all the other unicycles besides impact. I do some wannabe street with it such as, grinds, five stairs, etc, four foot drops, and the only thing I have had to replace was the cranks, several times, finally upgraded to moments, and a back handle I broke practicing seat drags. I love my nimbus, and this wasn’t even an expensive model.