I prefer paper tape for paint job, about 4 laps if high pressure for road purpose, 3 for off road purpose
Electrican tape will move into spokes holes with high pressure
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By this do you mean brown paper packing tape?
No , not brown packging tape
I think he might be meaning masking tape.
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So this is masking tape
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Thanks for the how-to - I really enjoyed that and it’s great to see how you can do it.
I have to say I got nervous just watching when you pumped it up - as I’d be wearing goggles and ear defenders 
Second, “I have to say” - you really need to stop making me feel like building a 32h Braus G36er.
I don’t have the skill or really the direct need, but it looks like the nicest wheel I’ve so far seen.
Guessing this is tarmac road only right? Or do you ride this set up on paths too?
(Would also have to pursuade Czech relatives to order a KG ultimate and ship onwards to the UK 
…)
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You could probably ride this set up on paths, too, but I don’t think that would be that great. Some people - such as @muni_ben - have built a carbon 36er to ride off-road but that was not with a Schlumpf hub inside. If you’d want to have a light geared uni to go off-road, you’d probably better go with a smaller wheel - 27.5 or 29.
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I appreciate the video posted showing the mounting of a King George tire on a Braus CF 36" rim with a 29 er tube. Excellent video. I have ordered 29" tubes and King George tires as a result.
Back in Nov Roger posted info stating that the Dominator 2 rim was designed to fit the Nightrider tire. I have read many posts comparing the Nextie rim dimensions with that of the Dominator 2. The Nextie rim was not designed to fit a specific tire and therefore the rim dimensions should not be compared with the Dominator 2. There are a number of 36er tires on the market. I would prefer that the Nextie rim not be designed around the dimensions of the Nightrider tire.
As I posted previously I have experience with hooked 700c Enve and Zipp rims. I can tell you that the location of the hooks, the depth of the rim, the height of the side walls are pretty darn close to identical as the Nextie design. Additionally, it was possible to mount a variety of tires (Continentals / Vittoria / etc) on these CF road rims by hand despite the shallow rim depth. I realize this is not apples to apples but neither is comparing a Nextie rim to a Dominator 2.
Many of the posts, citing issues with a hookless Nextie rim tubeless set-up, cite the use of the Nightrider tire. Again, the Nightrider tire was designed for a specific rim. Perhaps the issues others are having is not due to the design of the Nextie or Braus hookless rims but instead the tire being used in these applications? Just posing the question. Remember, Roger stated in his November post that he requested a rim design that would accommodate the Nightrider tire. Perhaps Roger can provide more insight?
In the video posted above showing the mounting of a King George tire and tube onto a Braus hookless tire tends to support that perhaps the use of a different tire, other than the Nightrider, may have promise with these new CF rims. Would be interested in learning if the King George set up on the Braus rim has been dependable? I wonder if the design of the King George and/or Vee Monster 36er tires may be more appropriate for the Nextie rim? I am not slamming the Nightrider tires - in my experience they work very well with the Dominator rims.
I have ordered some KG tires and 29er tubes. I also have some Nightrider tires as well. I will be mounting the King Georges on the Nextie hooked rims on my 36er bike. My thought is that perhaps the King Georges may be more appropriate for the Nextie rim than the Nightriders.
Lastly I have cancelled several Nextie rim orders (hooked and non-hooked) and received refunds immediately from Alice. She has been a pleasure to work with. She is respectful and very responsive. I have reordered the hooked rims.
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A little bit of history behind the tyres is useful to explain why the Nightrider (which is the most common) is as good a tyre as any to use as a basis for a new rim.
The tyres were first made in Taiwan in about 1997 by a very small company that primarily made motorcycle tyres. Coker commissioned the tyres to be made for a vintage car project. They then used it to make bikes and unicycles. The manufacturer produced their own tread tool (one of 4 tools used to make the tyre). This was the TA tyre and both Nimbus and Qu-Ax used this tyre initially. Nimbus (unicycle.com) took a move forward and commissioned the Nightrider tyre with this same company. This replaced the tread and weave materials so changing the tyre from 2 ply with a max pressure of 35psi, to 4 ply and 65psi max… but it still used the same bead and carcass tooling!
So although the manufacturing has now been taken over by a bigger tyre factory and the tools re-made. The situation is the same with all 36" tyres (except the V-rubber) they all use the exact same carcass and bead. So it does not matter which tyre you take to match… it will be coming from the same tool.
The exception is the Vee Rubber tyre and it is an almost exact copy of the TA/Nightrider/King George… so it works on the same criteria.
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I should respond to this one too, although I think I touched on it on the previous message.
The tyre was not made to match a rim, that is not the way the industry works. It was made to match a standard that was set out and in this case by the initial manufacturer. The Dominator 2 rim was not produced at the time that the tyres were designed but it was optimised to work with them. It was needed because the off the shelf rims had considerable problems mounting the larger tyre to stop it blowing off the rim or being impossible to install…
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Thanks for the quick reply to my inquiry Roger. Just a quick point of clarification please. So you are saying that both King George and Nightrider have the same bead profile? I will have to compare when I get the King George tires. From the video posted earlier in the thread it did not appear to be that difficult to mount the King George on the Braus. But I guess the Braus could be different from the Nextie. I guess we won’t know for sure until we receive a Nextie rim to try. I will have both tires on hand so will report findings when I try mounting both the King George and Nightrider. Really appreciate the insight and history!
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All the Nextie blowouts were Nightriders?
Braus rim users out there, which tire do you have? Nightrider Lite? King George Light?
I rode a King George and now I use a Vee Monster (but last time I rode the 36" was about 4-5 months ago)
King George Light
I really appreciate Roger taking the time to share the history about the Dominator 2 design and the need for a better tire - Nightrider. Also the fact that all 36er tires have a very similar carcass and bead is something I was not aware of. It seems that historically there was a problem with 36" tires blowing off the rims that were available at the time when inflated at higher PSI. That is also information I was not aware of. That seems to be the reason for the development of the Dominator 2 rim. So I guess the question remains - will the Nextie hooked rim work with the currently available tires that, for the most part, are very similar in terms of construction? I have no idea what the dimensions of the rims that were used in the old days with these tires? I wonder what was causing the tires to blow off these older style rims? I suspect it was because there was not enough room in the sidewall for the hook to seat? I just don’t know. I have a lot of experience with CF hooked 700C road rims. They are very similar in terms of dimensions with the Nextie. Not sure that this type of rim design meets the unique needs of the present 36er tires available.
Bead to seat.
Roger seemed doubtful that they will work (from post #381 above):
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I have had a Nighrider tire blow off of a Sealth2 rim. The simple reason is because I did not spend enough time to check that the tire placed correctly on the rim. The tire bead line needs to be exactly the same distance from the rim all the way around the tire.
Sometimes that take quite a bit of pulling and pushing around the tire. They are not like a normal motorcycle or auto tire that you just install on the rim and add air.
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I think most of us use a King George Light. But I have tested both on this rim and I prefer the NightRider Lite 
By the way, both are similar when we put them on the rim: with the right set up it’s easy, otherwise it’s really hard.