marijuana

…this thread…

I put myself in the “habitual use” category.

To everyone who says, “I don’t use drugs,” I am sure you use drugs. Any medicine, food, beverages etc has something in it. Why let someone else tell you which you are allowed to use? Marijuana is bad but salvia is not simply because someone decided to make marijuana illegal?!

Musketman, you are either very funny or very, very misinformed.

Marijuana is not physically addictive (although Blake is right, it is psychologically addictive, I can attest)

Marijuana does not cause people to do stupid things (in my experiences anyways). People do not lose touch with reality or common sense while high.

Marijuana smoke is unhealthy, but no much less so than tobacco smoke. Also, a cigarette contains somewhere around a gram of tobacco. Smokers tend to smoke at least a half a pack a day, 10 cigarettes, 10 grams. Typically a person will not consume more than a gram of marijuana at a time. I heard somewhere that it would take smoking something like 200lbs (100800g) at once to kill a person. That would be impossible to do.

Not saying you should try it. Just saying you should be more informed before you make any decision, and especially before you chastise others.

I used to do it all the time when I was younger. It’s not worth the money in my opinion. I only do it now on very rare occasions. I don’t really like how it makes me feel anymore!

No, it’s not, any more than perpetual cell-phone chattering is or excessive forum posting. It’s just my general philosophy. Allowing a benevolent government to implement controls to protect you is a step backwards.

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yes, so ive heard its not addicting but it gets psychologically addicting and therefore is addicting. Trust me, ive been with the biggest pot heads on those crappy all nighters at there house (dont ask me how i wound up with them at there house at night) and all they talk about all night and all day is smoking pot and getting high. I dont think u could get more addicted to marijuana than they were, and like i said it was marijuana…and like you said its a psychological addiction :wink: Being with pot heads while there hight or getting high is the most boring thing ever!

It is psychologically addicting…but are you going to let a plant take over your mind, or will you be stronger than that? Its difficult to do, but very possible. Those potheads you were with probably didn’t have anything better to do, so they might as well get high, which is why they do it all the time.

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I am quite anti smoking, I am aware of people at school who use it. I am against people smoking in public as I do not wish to inhale second hand smoke. If people want to smoke at home, that is their right. If people want to smoke pot at home its fine by me. I think that really there isn’t much difference between ciggs and pot, ciggs have chemicals in them. If you have pure pot than it will probably do less damage than ciggs, although there have been links or possible links to skitzophrenia. Really as long as people don’t bother or harm others and use it in a responsible way, they are free to do so.

i like that philosophy.

Me too, man…thats what I have always believed, that you should live your life how you see fit as long as it doesn’t hurt others.

Funny you should mention salvia. From what I have heard it can be pretty crazy and cause halucinations and stuff making it in my mind, more dangerous than pot because you loose touch with reality. The wierd thing is that I legaly bought it once when I was fifteen, they even made sure I knew how to smoke it and since I didn’t know whether or not I wanted purified or unpurified they gave me unpurified salvia for free. I didn’t end up getting high from it even though I tried it probably three times but still it was pretty easy to get yet you rarely see anyone using it. My guess is that since it was never made illegal that it never gained popularity. I think that if pot were made legal now there would be a big boom in use but it would probably taper down a bit.

The biggest issue I notice about pot is that it is wayyy easier to get than alcohol if you are underage.

There is one problem with this though, that is that people with children will be exposing their children to the smoke and the kids don’t really have any choice. It’s not a problem that will go away but its still out there.

Im cool with it

Unless you’re high! I agree that it’s no fun for high people to be with sober people, or sober people be with high people. That also is true for drunk people too cause it’s usually not very fun to be around a bunch of drunk people unless you are drunk.

High while riding!

Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in to the mix. I’ll admit I use marijuana quite frequently and have for the most part for the past several years. There are lots of reasons as to why I choose to do it and I won’t list all of them but here’s a couple; I think it’s better than alchohol and more fun and safer, I like the feeling it gives me (making things taste better, making music sound better, etc.), I used to smoke cigarettes but realized they don’t really do anything to you but harm you imo about the same or more as marijuana so I figured if I’m going to be smoking something, it might as well be pot instead of cigarettes, you can safely drive and do other things cause it doesn’t make you see things or stuff like other drugs can do, and lastly it makes things more challenging and funner for me.

What I mean by that last one is that I enjoy things more usually when I’m high. Things look prettier, sound better, taste better etc. I often smoke before I go on Muni rides or sometimes on them, as long as the rides aren’t too long. I actually think it might make me better, or at least boosts my self esteem so that it might not make me a better rider but because I’m feeling better and more confident than I perform better. Kinda hard to explain.

At MOAB this year I didn’t smoke before any of the rides but for sure did after the rides to relax me and numb my pain so I could just chill out. The rides were just too long to smoke before them and I would probably get too winded. But on Sundays ride after we had rode for a few miles and turned around and were at the top where the rest of it was downhill, I found a nice little scenic spot away from everyone and burned one down. I had my music blaring and started down the sweet dangerous trail. And it was so much fun going down! And guess what? I didn’t fall once the rest of the way back and there were some very technical/dangerous spots. It was perfect for me cause I had my music blaring, the beautiful scenery and I truley enjoyed it more than if I were sober.

So, lets review; I use it and am proud of it (I guess) and think it should be legalized. Now I’m not telling everyone that they should try it or use it regulary, but if they want to than I don’t have a problem with it and don’t think anyone else should have a problem with it. But I would recommend waiting until your late teens/early 20’s to experiment with it, that’s my only advice. Have fun but be safe!

I don’t think pot is a good drug for unicyclists. Pot affects your short term memory and your ability to learn new things like new unicycle skills and new concepts at school. The affects stay with you for a week or more.

Given that most serious unicyclists like to learn new skills I would think they would choose to avoid pot if they knew it was affecting their ability to learn new skills as quickly. Same goes for pot use while attending school (middle school, high school, or college) since it affects your ability to learn as effectively.

For the issue of legality I would prefer that pot was legal and easy to get. The main reason why pot is a gateway drug is because you have to go to a drug dealer to get it. Once you know a drug dealer it is easy to get other drugs.

I don’t care if people smoke marijuana as long as they are responsible (don’t drive stoned) and don’t steal my stuff or damage property to pay for their habit. In fact, that’s the way I feel about pretty much all drugs. The fact that they are illegal is worse than the societal effects of having addicted people in society. If the drugs were legal people would be able to get reliable and clean supplies of their drug(s) and not have to deal with things like tainted heroin that kills you. Legal drugs would also eliminate a major profit center for many violent gangs.

For me I enjoy being active and being able to do and learn new things. I wouldn’t do pot even if it was legal just because it would affect what I enjoy doing (unicycling and big muni rides).

What? I think Pot is a great drug for unicyclists! Just kidding, kind of. I agree that it does affect your short term memory and I personally have noticed that I can’t learn new tricks as fast or as good as I used to but I don’t think pot is the only reason to it. I think that just aging effects your learning ability too. It seems as though teenagers can learn new tricks much better and faster than say 30 year olds and even faster and better than say 40 or 50 year olds and so on…

I smoked while in college and still got good grades (B average) so I can’t say that it affects your learning THAT much but am sure it does to some degree. I really wish the stupid government would actually do a TON more studies on marijuana cause otherwise we’re all just guessing what it does…and none of us knows for sure what it really does.

And I know I’ll probably get crap for this but I drive stoned all the time (almost everyday) but hear me out. I read about a study someone did about people driving stoned vs. sober and the study actually said that the stoned drivers we more careful while driving. This is due to them being paranoid which makes them drive slower than sober people thus safer cause usually slower means safer. Reaction times were the same between the two groups so all in all, I believe it is OK to drive while stoned and is responsible. Now if you’ve never tried it before than please don’t comment on this cause you have no idea how or what you feel when you’re high. It’d be like someone that’s never tried caffeine (which is an addicting drug) to tell someone it’s not safe to drive while on caffiene even though they don’t know what’s it’s like to be on caffeine.

Some other reasons why I drive is because it’s the best place for me to do it cause I can’t do it in my home and don’t know many other places I can do it. So it’s easy and convienent. I’ve been doing it for 5 plus years (lets just say I’ve probably driven stoned 1000plus times) and have yet to get into an accident or do anything stupid while driving. I have been pulled over numerous times baked and have yet to get arrested or in trouble, just a speeding ticket. I would say I’m an experienced user so I know how/what I feel therefore I would not suggest others to drive unless they’ve been doing it for awhile and used to the high feeling. Plus it makes road trips that much funner and faster! So those are my reasons as to why I choose to do it while driving…good or bad, I believe I’m 100% responsible. And I have never nor would never steal or damage property because of marijuana.

Lastly, you say “I wouldn’t do pot even if it was legal just because it would affect what I enjoy doing (unicycling and big muni rides)”. My only suggestion on that is yes it may affect it but it may be positively and make you like unicycling even more!

Wow… thats is EXACTLY what i feel… just much better written and much better grammar… i smoke the tweed… i wouldnt say im proud of it… but i am in a weird kinda way…

Something crazy like 83% of my school drinks alcohol frequently… and i have seen what it does to people… There are so many fights and stuff between drunk people at parties…

I am not against drinking by any means… i just choose not to do it… Just this spring break… as you can imagin for me was full of drinking and smoking at parties… and a few of my drinking friends got in a huge fight with other people… and my one friend got a knife pulled to his throat… all becuase they were drunk… and i mean come on people… if everyone was high… there would have been no fight… strait up…

also it urks me to no end when people say smoking is gross and are totally against it… because at parties i will walk up to them and say, “Look, i am way high and way enjoying myself,” and i will be way chill, not sluring my words, and can act totally strait… just that everything is more fun. then ill say" look at them, they are way drunk and way enjoying themselves," but they will be sluring their words and breaking stuff(sterotype) and puking

which brings me to my next point, smoking does not cuase one to puke…or have any effects the morning after… no headache and sour stomach no anything… thats one of the resons i smoke over drink

All in all, i love marijuana… My favorite thing to do in the whole world is to uni while “under the influence” thats when i learn most of my tricks… I beleive marijuana should be legalized becuase it does much less damge then alcohol, in my opinion. Thank you and good night

If this has changed anyones veiw on me then i apologize

Chase

I’m sure there are lots of people with my same views (like you) and lots with totally opposite views but that’s OK as long as we can all get along, right?! I totally agree (and forgot) about how mellow Pot makes you and how wild and crazy drinking makes you, thus more fights and more things get broken when you’re drunk vs. high. Good point. And of course you can’t forget hangovers with drinking but none with good ol Mary Jane.

Since you are only 15, my only suggestion would be to take it easy and don’t do it everyday but only at parties on weekends and stuff. It does effect your learning abilities, not a ton but some.

One last thing I’d like to note is that many of my friends and family don’t even know I do it (or at least as much as I do). And I do it sometimes before I see these people and they don’t even know so it must not affect a person that much. Unlike alcholol or other drugs where you can for sure tell if someone is drunk all the time by the way they talk, smell and act. I guess my point is that you can almost be perfectly normal while high and not too many people will figure it out. The only way is if they smell it (roll down the windows when you’re down to air out), you get the giggles or they see your red eyes (use Visine or Clear Eyes). Happy smokings…I think it’s about that time!

Didn’t the Olympic committee refer to marijuana as a “performance enhancing drug” when the snow boarders were testing positive for it 4 years ago?

I don’t think it is. I don’t think the snow boarders thought it was either.

its wierd that you guys mention salvia…thats the one thing i’d never try (besides the obvious chemical drugs cocain, crack, meth ,shrooms) ive seen some people completely lose it on salvia its one of the worst highs you can be on but it only lasts for a few minues.

what I’d like to see is some unbiased facts because in school they tell you it worse than a cig. and then users tell you how good it is.

I did a quick search on google and found how it effects driving: