Yeah, Koxx overprices it’s products WAY too much. They seem to just try to get out as many new products a year as they can, but that must mean that they don’t pay as much attention to detail as some other companies. By the looks of the new seat post it is only re-enforced in the tube part, where as the problem with most seat posts is that they break on the weld connecting to the post plate. An example of Koxx overpricing their individual parts:
Koxx Red Devil Components-
Saddle- 45 euros
Seat Post- 29 euros
Post Clamp- & euros- 7 euros
Frame- 49 euros
Hub- 60 euros
Cranks- 75 euros
Pedals- 25 euros ( check out their butterfly pedals, only 75 euros! )
Rim-55 euros
Tire- 36 euros
Rim Tape- 3.22 euros
Tube- 5 euros
Post Shim- 3.22 euros
+Spokes and wheelbuild = +/- 30 euros
420 Euros for all the Devil parts. $557 USD. Rip-off.
The XTP is a lot but its the only frame like that so you can’t compare it to anything. That new seatpost is around $80US which seems like a lot but the Thompson post is the same price. If that new seat post is comparable in strength then it would be more desirable because you don’t need a rail adapter or swallis base.
its only their seperate parts that are overpirced… and i’m not sure what is reinforced, but if they put that pattern all the way the joing would be more solid…
but its stuff like teh black domina frame, the butterfly pedals, some of their saddles
That doesn’t seem a very fair comparison th new KH trials uni is more comparable with the XTP than the Devil - aluminium frame, wide rim, Isis hub, solid aluminum cranks, low profile seat, reinforced aluminum seat post
Koxx XTP $818.06 (from Municycle can’t find it in US)
KH trials uni $467
I guesss you are paying a bit more for Koxx styling and branding
Yeah but I guess I am thinking more with street in mind so I would not consider using the XTP all. I agree that the XTP is more expensive than it should be.
I wonder how much of that (if any) is due to the currancy conversion. Depending on the exchange rate it could be a lot more just because it is in USD.
From Municycle.com the devil is 349 Euros and that is $460US and since the devil is $395 from renegade I think the extra cost is because of the currancy conversion.
well i’d disagree with the XTP being more like the KH. The XTP is simply a devil uni with that stupidly expensive frame…
and yeah again please not KH vs. Koxx-one
that wasnt the point. The point was just dont people find it dsigusting how koxx-one seem to be overpricing their new somewhat original products.
Koxx are notorious for being pricey. Their over-priced biketrials components have made people always ask whether or not a new product has the signature ‘Koxx price-tag’.
To best honest… their ISIS crankset and hubs really aren’t that bad for the price. Let’s not forget how much KH-Onza cranksets and Profiles cost!
however, the Try-All rims are hardly a bargain. KH is much better in this sense.
Saddle-wise Koxx are nice, really nice, but I just wish they brought their saddles out to be thinner as standard, I don’t see why not seeing as ALL the Koxx team thin down their saddles a hell of a lot! It’s not too ideal thinning down Koxx saddles because they have the annoying staples instead of the easy laces design KH saddles have.
I know this’ll be really expensive… but having an entirely CNC machined one-piece seatpost would be theoretically stronger than a welded together seatpost. Even so, it’s not worth the effort considering there are steel posts around…
yeah i agree sponge some of their parts are a good deal, just others they go totally ballistics with the pricing!
i mean yeah their ISIS hub and cranks are competitive, their saddles are great, the tryall tyre is pretty good, and their frame is very competitive (the devil frame)
but they go completely crazy with stuff like their rims. Why is it so much more than the KH or onza rim?