This guy has a pretty good sense of humor for a hater, at least in hind sight.
If you look at the description of the video it says he is a fromer Klansman. I believe the black dude he was talking about had a big impact on him and he is now anti-klan speaker as well as a Christian.
You make it sound like he has become Christian, when in fact nearly all Klan members are and always have been Christians.
If you noticed, one of the most influential things to this guy was the Reverend’s religion.
I just thought you should know;)
They may claim to be Christians, but they most certainly aren’t. In the Bible it says that if you love me (God) you wil keep my commandments. And what is Gods second greatest commandment? Well in Mathew 22:34-40 Jesus says that Gods second greatest commandment is to “love you neighbor as yourself”. Do Klan members love there neighbors as themselves? Most certainly not. If they loved there neighbors they would not killl them, torture people, think others inferior, and do what ever else they do to people. Soooo KKK members are not Christians, though they may claim to be.
You’re an effing idiot.
How so?
The bible says all kinds of things… For example, do you kill people who work on the sabbath just because Exodus 35:2 tells you to?
You pick and choose from the bible, so does the Klan. I don’t see why it makes either one of you less Christian, since you both identify yourselves as Christian.
Here’s a nice little article on living up to God’s expectations.
I think the KKK members didn’t look at black people as people, but as inferior beings to people. But they did love their neigbours (that were real people (to them, no offense)). Or am I wrong?
You are correct, and it has Biblical support:
Exodus 21:12 “Anyone who strikes a man and kills him shall surely be put to death.”
Exodus 21:20-21 “If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.”
Thus slaves are not people, since the punishment for harming them is less.
Deuteronomy 24:7 “If a man is caught kidnapping one of his brother Israelites and treats him as a slave or sells him, the kidnapper must die. You must purge the evil from among you.”
Leviticus 25:39 “If one of your countrymen becomes poor among you and sells himself to you, do not make him work as a slave.”
This means that Israelites have higher value than other races, since they must not be sold into slavery, but other tribes/races can. Since the other races may become slaves, they are not people.
So, if you work with the assumption that the Bible is the word of God, it’s all perfectly justified. I have no such misconceptions.
Well the bible tells us in various scriptures of the new testament that “by grace we are saved through faith” not through law or works. My inquiry of google for a good passage on this has brought up Galations 3 which discusses this extensively.
I’ll get to you tommorrow nimbelight. I have to go do something.
I would say god certainly shows favoritism to his chosen people. All though you could also see how it stinks to be them.
I’ve gotten myself into a theology debate, haven’t I?
Bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh.
I’m sorry I brought your scripture into this. All I was trying to do is support what hobo said about the Klan being Christian. Don’t spew any scripture at me, I’ve had enough for today finding those passages!
Does it also say that the people of whom he is speaking are, by definition, the Christians? I think he’s talking about everyone. Bad Christians and good. Take a time trip back to a good Southern white church in the 1850s and see what the Christians were up to at the time. Everybody has room for improvement.
Who used to, many believe(d), all be white.
I would say he’s become anti-Klan speaker as well as an American.
And he’s got HUGE cohones for being willing to speak of his past deplorable, anti-human, anti-American actions.
In the Bible, Jesus is talking mainly to the Jews, as that was the only group at the time who knew His commandments.
John 14:21 “He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will disclose Myself to him.”
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him.
John 15:10 "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.
1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments are not burdensome.
Well, it’s a series of amusing stories, well told, whether true or not.
I’ve just read Johnny Lee Clary’s entry in Wikipedia. It’s quite a story of a person who has more or less turned out good after a bad start in life.
As a cynic, I’d say swapping membership of the KKK for being “born again” is swapping one “illusion of certainty” for another, but at least it is a more constructive illusion of certainty.
You so seldom read of people who say, “You know I was a thief/murderer/violent man/racist (etc.) until I found the ability to think freely and reached my own conclusion that my behaviour was wrong.” It’s always, “… until I found God/Christ/Islam etc.”
The statement – “You know I was a thief/murderer/violent man/racist (etc.) until I found the ability to think freely and reached my own conclusion that my behaviour was wrong” – is neither credible nor relevant to behavior.
Children know theft/murder/violence is wrong.
There’s also no way to predict what a person who thinks freely will think, but historically they have found God/Christ/Islam etc as well as atheism.
That’s because the churches attached to God/Christ/Islam(/other) have a product to sell, and they are much better marketers than the non-product “thinking freely”. Generally thinking freely works against most forms of marketing/advertising…
Am I hearing you right?
Are you saying that free thinkers don’t steal and kill?
Are you saying that free thinkers obey the Ten Commandments?
No. You’re not hearing him right.
He didn’t say anything you’re suggesting.
I think what he is saying is:
I was a Christian until I found the ability to think freely and reached my own conclusion that my behaviour was wrong.
MuniBUST,
First of all, I resent you saying Freethinkers steal and kill. They don’t.
Second, I found your website:
http://revkeyes.blogspot.com/ “faith for free thinkers: Run by the pastor of a Christian church for independent thinkers, this blog is all about interacting with each other and the world-at-large, discussing a variety of issues from any adventurous, intelligent, open-minded faith perspective.”
Billy