I also agree that we don’t need a censor moderator… yet. If it gets bad enough, I don’t have a problem with someone deleting the posts with profanity. That’ll learn 'em quick. But I think we’re very well behaved for the most part. If an occasional f-bomb shows up, I’m fine with that. I just don’t want it to become the norm.
I say, it’s our forum; let’s use it responsibly and regulate ourselves.
Self restraint is only applicable for those with good breeding.
No this is Semantics…, lol. 
I live in Nevada a state where even some teachers in school will curse on a regular basis(not angrily, usually) and students will think nothing of it. However in toher parts of the world it is very different, Utah for example. It’s all a matter of culture, and where you live/how you were raised, and as soon as people realise that not everyone expresses themselves in the same way then they might realise that there is no wrong way to express ones self, only differnt ways.
However this is only partially true, a girl at my school the other day was told to put away a magazine because it said go to hell on the front of it in big bold letters, she got pissy and decided to go off on a rant about how if hell is offensive then religious symbols should be removed too. Well I am oute fo now and will finish later.
Apparently Obie hasn’t found this thread yet. If he has, I can’t imagine him voluntarily restraining himself from posting in it. Therefore, I would feel safe recommending my nephew to read it.
Not that he’s never seen the f-word, but that’s not the point. This is a unicycling forum (where the original thread was posted). Our purpose is not to educate people outside of unicycling and related subjects. But we can talk about our subject in a way that’s acceptable for the many elementary school-aged kids who read it.
This is not a censored forum. Nobody is asking for it to be censored. Perhaps we need better-accessible ground rules that remind people to keep things at a tone that would generally be acceptable for kids to read, because they read it. And their parents read it. We only ask that people use some consideration.
I used to work in elementary schools. You don’t swear there. It’s not that you can’t, and not that the kids probably haven’t heard the stuff before. It’s just that there are places you use certain words, and places where “polite” people don’t. Being able to switch gears, if you moonlight at a shipping dock, for instance, is a skill.
The idea is not to “hide” certain words from kids. The idea is to have the sense to keep things at a “community” level, and save the more powerful language for more appropriate places. This isn’t one.
I am in the same boat as harper; i.e. anti-censorship and pro-restraint. If people would rather not hear profanity, in many cases, it can simply be avoided. In other cases, it cannot. deal with it.
These forums are a place where restraint should be exercised due to the wide range of people that use them.
I completely disagree with DigitalDave’s theory about people using profanity because they aren’t smart enough to come up with different words. I believe that the language somebody uses and their intelligence level are two completely unrelated things, and it is ridiculous for somebody to put the two together in an attempt to belittle a person who uses language that they would rather not hear.
As I grew up I learned which words were “bad” and not to be used, and I still do not use that sort of language as others may find it offensive, and I respect that.
I’m not sure how you got to the statement above. I don’t think I’ve ready anything in either this thread or the one that led to it suggesting that Gilby should come in and punish those who utter a curse. I would not favor that, even while acknowledging his right to do so if he saw fit.
As one of the people that got on [Ignore]Obie’s case for his nasty post in the other thread, I’d also say that I don’t advocate censorship. But to Harper’s point, I’d say I’m VERY “pro-restraint”. My 10-year-old son has heard all those words [Ignore]Obie used and more, and the fact that I wouldn’t want him spending time in a forum where they were used commonly doesn’t mean I want to censor him or hobble his education. It means I want to encourage him to spend time in the company of people that can both control their emotions and communicate appropriately in a public setting. I’d rather see his life rich with those examples. I think there has been enough research to show we tend to talk (and by extension write) like those we’ve spent the most time talking with and listening to.
Fortunately, it’s not a huge issue with my son. He prefers live role models to the online variety, and has been lucky enough to meet some among the members of this community.
Even though I don’t have kids, and am not a kid myself. I would rather not here profanity, or any other kind of unnessasary talking, I just don’t see the need for it.
I think we should censor our kids, maybe thats not the right word. I think we should do it first by not saying and doing things we don’t want our kids to see, this means when they’re around, and not, a true example is who you are at all times, we weren’t made to switch gears, too confusing. If I had children, I would bring them up and teach them the way they should live, not help them to interact with behaviours I know are wrong and won’t helpt them live the best life possible. What kind of parent would I be if I knew what was best for them but let them do whatever they want? how are they supposed to learn if I don’t teach them? I know they will make they’re own choices, but giving them encouragement to choose the right ones is not censoring them, it’s loving them.
I see this alot in the way God deals with us. He gives us ten commandments to stay away from things that will hurt us in one way or another. He didn’t give us the ones telling us the really cool and awesome things we can do in life, theres no list that long, and no laws against the positive things. Thats pretty loving to me, for him to encourage us to choose to follow Him in the right path, while at the same time giving us to the choice to choose otherwise. Even if doing so ends in death and total destruction in hell completely cut off from his presence, but thats what love does, lets us choose.
Anyways, cursing and such things aren’t productive, so why do them?
Andrew
ooooh 
, now THERE’s a dangerous attitude for a unicyclist to have… 
a dangerously unneccesarily judgemental attitude?
r u telling me i can’t be well behaved because i have bad genes?
surely u can’t ignore the ‘environmental’ impact on learnt behaviour?
yeah. that energy had to go somewhere
just found this quote and couldn’t resist
Unicycling is good exercise, so to me, thats productive. Whens the last time you swore and your muscles got bigger, or you burned extra fat off?
Andrew
i know, i know
i’m just ragging u
besides, u try n convince b*cyclists of the ‘productivity’ of a uni
oh, and by the way, ref the muscle thing?
u’ve obviously never heard me swear
Do you also grow 50 times bigger and turn green?
Maybe you should cut the dose of gamma-radiation.
Well no, actually i’ve never heard you do anything : )
Andrew
i am a kid…13 years old…and it just happens that i am the one that obie was yelling at…