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360 lateflip? is that just a late treyflip?

Did you watch the video? it is a 360 with a lateflip, no unispin.

oh kk, no i didnt see it.

I think the words hoptwist and unispin are some of the lamest out there. So instead I’ve named the twisting and unispinning tricks with flips completely differently. Any unispin flip trick won’t have a number in it, and twisting flip trick will just have the number in it. Hick, Trey, Fifth, 180, 360. The late will go in the title accordingly.

-Shaun Johanneson

sweet, that makes a lotta sense.

flips:
hick - trey - fifth - sedge

no flips (with default 180 bodyspin):
small - big - huge - ???

petespin definitely has a ring to it. I hope I land it first.

Ha

na

Giantspin doesn’t sound great. SeventhSpin is too much like just a 720unispin. I duno.

If you wanted to get rid of the word unispin altogether and stuff you could reinvent it all like:

oldnames newnames

180unispin = “hick-spin”
small spin = “180 hick-spin”
big spin = “180 trey-spin”
huge spin = “180 fifth-spin”
360 unispin = “treyspin”
540 unispin = “fifthspin”

It would make it easier to know that the number is always the degrees of bodyspin.

You guys are all spelling tre flip wrong. Ha, well at least thats how it’s spelled in skateboarding. I definitly think it looks better.

I don’t really like the name “fifthflip” for 540 unispin crankflip. I think 540 flip would be alot better. I guess it could be confused with a 540 flip as in a 540 hop twist + crankflip, but I doubt anyone is going to do one of those for a LONG time.

If Dan Heaton gets around to flips anytime soon, you can bet we’ll be seeing those (540 flips) soon.

Now, I think that the name fifthflip isn’t so good because if (and thats a heavy if) anyone ever gets around to landing an actual fifthflip (5 flips) then it will have to be called a fifthflip. You also can’t be calling it a 540 flip because then you would have to change treflip and hickflip to 360 flip and 180 flip respectively, and seeing as those are already around, it doesn’t work out.

EDIT: This game is aimed at tricks that can be done off sets. Would anyone be opposed to starting a flatland game? I think the rules would be that no trick would be able to be done off sets. There hasn’t really been much progress in the flatland area for a while, and I think people would get really creative and we’d see alot of cool new stuff.

@Shaun- You can’t really name a twisting flip trick just by the twisting degree (180, 360, 540) because then people will confuse just a normal 180, 360, 540 (hoptwists) for having flips in them. You’re right though, hick, tre, and fifth (with the exception of fifth(see explination above)) work.

I always thought it be:
tripleflip: 3 flips
quadruple (or just quad) flip: 4 flips
quintuple flip (or just quint): 5 flips

In skateboarding you have this (the uni trick equivalents are in parentheses): variel flip (hickflip), tre flip/360 flip (tre flip), 540 flip (fifthflip). Not sure what I am getting at with that, but just making a comparison.

Instead of making only a flatground game, I’d suggest starting up Spencer’s Uni Trick Clip game back up. This game allows one trick or a run of tricks (static flatland or rolling), so you could do flatland combos or whatever. Maybe have a beginner and advanced game within that thread too. We could have gilby move it to the video forum.

You can spell trey however, but I like it Trey since it’s not skateboarding. And I think maximus unius you missed something. I wasn’t saying 180, 360, 540 like there is a flip in there without stating it. I was leaving it out like I left hick (flip), trey (flip) and fifth (flip) out figuring you would know to put it in on it’s own. It’s a 180flip, 360flip, 540flip.

By calling a fifthflip a 540flip you wreck from the name structure of the flips. Trust me there is lots of structure in the names if you pay attention.

5twist flip would be lame to me actually, 3flips are lame, 3 lateflips are fine since they flow a lot better and are easier than 3flips.

A 5 flip would be called a 5 flip to me. Triple, 4 flip, 5 flip, or if the person who first does them is really greedy they can call it whatever they want. But I don’t understand why 5 flips would be fifthflip, since a double isn’t called a secondflip.

180unispin = “hick-spin” (I like)
small spin = “180 hick-spin” ( I don’t like)
big spin = “180 trey-spin”( I don’t like)
huge spin = “180 fifth-spin”( I don’t like)
360 unispin = “treyspin”(I like)
540 unispin = “fifthspin”(I like)

I like big,small,huge spins. I like that name. I wouldn’t rename unispins though, lol, john foss would be pissed.

-Shaun Johanneson

What do you call the skill where you do an outflip plus a 180 unispin? And what game would that be in?

fulloutflip. expert/pro.

Double flips aren’t called 2 flips either though. Thats why i think it would be double flip, triple flip, quad(ruple) flip, quint(uple) flip. I don’t think we should worry too much about it yet, as there are only a few people who can even triple flip.

I saw your other post in the Flip Vid no. 2 thread about inflips, outflips, hickflips. You were saying about just calling them hickflips with the in2in, in2out, out2in, out2out, or whatever. What would think of getting rid of the term “variel flip” and just calling it a smallflip in2out, out2in, etc…?

How about having 4 monosyllable prefixes meaning in2in, in2out, out2in and out2out. :roll_eyes:

Well we have “outflip” that specifies that you go in2out (and do a hickflip)… so how about “rolling outspin” for a rolling 180 unispin (to seatout)?

I think out2out is hardly needed because when do you ever want to be doing that? Admittedly it is how most people learn to unispin so I guess undefined could mean “out2out”.

as for “in2in” and “out2in”, I think they’re probably the one variation that don’t make much difference for difficulty either way. (it’s basically just whether you start with the seat handle at the front or not) edit: I take it back, I can do 360 unispins out2in but not in2in…

You could use “inflip” or “inspin” to cover both out2in and in2in.

So let’s see…

old name = “new name”

180 unispin, in2out = “outspin”
180 unispin, out2out = “hick-spin”
180 unispin, out2in = “inspin”
180 unispin, in2in = “inspin”

360 unispin, in2out = “out treyspin”
360 unispin, out2out = “treyspin”
360 unispin, out2in = “intreyspin”
360 unispin, in2in = “intreyspin” (“true in treyspin”?)

540 unispin, in2out = “outfifthspin”
540 unispin, out2out = “fifthspin”
540 unispin, out2in = “infifthspin”
540 unispin, in2in = “infifthspin”

I have no idea. haha

The main reason why varials aren’t called smallspins in2out, is because for most people they will be blind. So they have a new name. The only person I have seen have their comfortable unispin in the same direction as their comfortable twist is Xavier Collos, so his varial is completely blind. My varial just uses my blind unispin, and smallspins use my blind twist. It looks like treyflips in2in and out2in, are called the same things, i’m ok with that, since just by looking at it you can tell it’s different. I’m not too worried about names or seat position. As long as you can see what’s going on. When you brag up a set “I treyflipped a 4 set” then you might have to say what it is, which is fine. “Which way?” “Oh, out2in.” “Sick bro, sick. But isn’t the record a 5?” “Shut up, i’m getting there.” And so on, lol.

-Shaun Johanneson

What are these tricks ?

Hey,

I would like to know what is the exact names of these tricks
=> http://onewheelrider.free.fr/tricksnames.avi

The main question is what means “blind” :thinking:
Thanks

Xav

Hey Xavier, how are things going?

“blind” means that you spin in the opposite direction that you are used to. So a blind 540 hoptwist for you would be doing the hoptwist to the right, not to your left like you’re used to. This also applies to unispins and flip tricks.

-Matt

Hmm, the only thing I would be worried about would be that seat in flips tend to be easier. So if one person can do a “full outflip” and one can do a treyflip then I would say that’s an unfair judgement of skill. In a shaun style:
“hey man, I can treyflip now”,
“yeh me too, it’s easy”.
“Out to in?”,
“No, in to in”,
“that makes sense…”.
“Hey what are your trying to say, that I’m not as good as you?”
“well if the hat fits loser!”
“Yeh well take this!”

…end of conversation.

Klownlife… What? lol

See Xavier all your twisting flip tricks have to be blind, since spinning normally would be much harder for you. Since you learned to normal spin in the actually blind method for your footage. In other terms you should be spinning more comfortably your blind way, that’s why all your flips are blind (twisitng).

Your fakie varialflip (varial fakieflip), isn’t a varial at all. It’s a smallspin. It’s it’s going in your good direction. (Unispin and twist) however when you flip the cranks that twisting direction becomes your blind. So for you, it would be called a blind small fakieflip. But a Small fakieflip would be harder for you to do. If you so choose call all your twisting flip tricks blind, but like Alex Toms, it’s easier for you to flip twist blind.

-Shaun Johanneson