At 08:12 AM 6/26/96 +0200, you wrote:
>When twisting (no. 102a according to IUF standard skills list) in a standard
>skill competition, how long must it be done? Do you have to do 5 consecutive
>cycles like idling or do you have to twist for 3 seconds like stillstand?
3 seconds. As with the other skills, it’s okay to do extra, as long as you
complete at least 3 seconds’ worth.
John Foss, Chairman IUF Skill Levels and Rules Committee unifoss@calweb.com
Re: twisting
On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, John Foss wrote:
> At 08:12 AM 6/26/96 +0200, you wrote:
> >When twisting (no. 102a according to IUF standard skills list) in a standard
> >skill competition, how long must it be done? Do you have to do 5 consecutive
> >cycles like idling or do you have to twist for 3 seconds like stillstand?
>
> 3 seconds. As with the other skills, it’s okay to do extra, as long as you
> complete at least 3 seconds’ worth.
>
> John Foss, Chairman IUF Skill Levels and Rules Committee
This is twisting not stillstand (stillstand is three seconds). Twisting is more
akin to idling as it is a back and forth motion. For idling, five consecutive
idles need to be executed for the full points on the skill. The computer program
that will be used at Unicon and NUC states that twisting has to have five
consecutive twists. I went and checked this years rulebook (both IUF and USA)
and couldn’t find any reference to the number of twists. I think in one of the
older standard books there is comment on twisting but I don’t have those things
here at work.
If twisting is 3 seconds, I can do one very slow twist for three seconds.
cotter@skypoint.com Andy Cotter Unicycling Society of America - Vice President
USA home page http://www.unicycling.org/usa/
Re: twisting
At 09:58 AM 6/28/96 -0500, Andy Cotter wrote:
>> At 08:12 AM 6/26/96 +0200, you wrote:
>> >When twisting (no. 102a according to IUF standard skills list) in a standard
>> >skill competition, how long must it be done? Do you have to do 5 consecutive
>> >cycles like idling or do you have to twist for 3 seconds like stillstand?
>>
> John Foss wrote:
>> 3 seconds. As with the other skills, it’s okay to do extra, as long as you
>> complete at least 3 seconds’ worth.
>>
>This is twisting not stillstand (stillstand is three seconds). Twisting is more
>akin to idling as it is a back and forth motion. For idling, five consecutive
>idles need to be executed for the full points on the skill. The computer
>program that will be used at Unicon and NUC states that twisting has to have
>five consecutive twists. I went and checked this years rulebook (both IUF and
>USA) and couldn’t find any reference to the number of twists. I think in one of
>the older standard books there is comment on twisting but I don’t have those
>things here at work.
>
>If twisting is 3 seconds, I can do one very slow twist for three seconds.
Ken Fuchs pointed this out as well. I looked it up and, sure enough, twisting is
ill defined in our rulebook. There are no more detailed references to it in
older versions of IUF rules that I could find.
I always thought of twisting as a compromise between idling and a stillstand.
The idler can pedal at will, while the stillstander is not supposed to move the
unicycle at all. Twisting allows you to make that twisting motion, but you are
not supposed to turn the pedals.
Therefore, it is neither a stillstand nor an idle. Our rulebook has definitions
on how to idle and do stillstands, but leaves twisting out in the cold. To me,
twisting is more closely related to the stillstand, where the twisting motion is
not mandatory; it is merely allowed as a necessity to stay balanced. More
accomplished riders will do the stillstand instead, for the extra 0.8 point.
My opinion, however, does not matter. It only serves to make clear that we don’t
have a consensus on how to judge this skill, and neither does our rulebook. If I
were Chief Judge at UNICON, which I may turn out to be, I think I would allow
either method. This would seem to be the only way to be fair. Later (after
UNICON), we will add some wording to clear up the definition, and we can argue
about it at that time!
John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone unifoss@calweb.com