std. skill questions

hello!

we are trying to figure out how to do std. skill routines, and I have a couple
questions for you guys…

take this one, for example. does that mean split wheel walk? what does the “c”
mean? sometimes it’s a 7 or an 8 after the trick, is that the level?

22b wheel walk frame between feet -c 4.2

can the seat not touch your body for the seat on side tricks?

thank you! Tammy :slight_smile:


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RE: std. skill questions

Tammy,

Questions and feedback on Standard Skill are always useful for us in evaluating
our rules. It’s a hard event to understand without seeing it done (another area
where a hardly-selling-any-copies video would be real useful).

> what does the “c” mean?

C means circle (ride it in a circle). This is found at the top of the Standard
Skills List: http://www.unicycling.org/iuf/rulebook/iufrules/7sslist.html

> sometimes it’s a 7 or an 8 after the trick, is that the level?

This brings up a common problem people have with our Standard Skill competition
event. Sorry about that. For some reason they always try to connect it to the
Skill Levels, and we have not done enough to dispel this common misconception.
The IUF/USA Skill Levels borrow from the Standard Skills List for definitions of
the skills. Otherwise, they are merely a suggested progression of skills for
unicyclists, and have no connection with any competition event. There are no
“levels” in Standard Skill, only point values.

An 8 after a trick means figure eight. I don’t know where you’re seeing a 7.
Look in the Standard Skill Rules area:
http://www.unicycling.org/iuf/rulebook/iufrules/4stdskl.html for diagrams of how
the different figure shapes are ridden.

Tammy’s example, which I will dissect below:

> 22b wheel walk frame between feet -c 4.2

“22b” is the skill or “figure” number. The rulebook calls them figures, but
should not be confused with the “figure 8” you may ride it in. “b” means it’s
a variation with a specific description that separates it from an “a” or “c”,
in this case a circle instead of a straight line. Each figure number may be
used only once in a Standard Skill performance. In other words, you can’t use
22a and 22b.

“wheel walk frame between feet” is the figure’s name. The names try to be
descriptive without being too long. Longer descriptions of each figure appear in
the Descriptions list.

“-c” means you must ride it in a circle, as described in the part of the rules
with the diagram. The circle must be 100% of the way around, and stay outside
the 4m circle line all the way around. It’s best to overlap a little bit from
where you started your circle, to make sure you rode it all the way around.
Otherwise you lose 50% of the figure’s value from your score.

“4.2” is the point value of this figure. Do it perfect and you get to keep the
4.2, otherwise parts of it get chipped away as you make mistakes…

> does that mean split wheel walk?

Don’t split the wheel (save that for the lumberjack competition)! :slight_smile: It’s
sitting on the seat (always assumed if not stated otherwise), pushing the wheel
with one foot in front like regular wheel walking, and the other foot on the
back part of the wheel. This trick is more commonly done backward, where the
rear foot has more to do. The rear foot can’t help much going forward.

When in doubt on figure descriptions, read the other figure descriptions to see
if the one you’re thinking of is in there.

> can the seat not touch your body for the seat on side tricks?

That is correct, though it doesn’t seem to state that directly. When in doubt,
look at the figure names:
7. a) seat on side, seat against body 3.0
b) seat on side, seat against body - c 2.8
c) seat on side 3.7
d) seat on side - c 3.5

For 7c and 7d, the seat may not touch the body. Unless otherwise noted, the seat
is not allowed to touch the body in any seat out skills, though “seat out” is
not adequately defined.

Please ask more questions as you come up with them, but be sure to read first to
see if you find the answers. Also please tell us where you maybe found an
answer, but it should have been easier to find!

Stay on top, John Foss Chairman, IUF Rules Committee www.unicycling.com

Re: std. skill questions

> > take this one, for example. does that mean split wheel walk?
>
>Yup! That’s a common name for the skill. The full definition of the skill is:
>Riding forward by propelling the wheel with one foot placed on the wheel in
>front of the frame and the other foot placed on the wheel behind the frame.

thanks gilby!! is that definition in the rule book?

>Those are abbreviations for different things: fwd = forward ext = extended bwd
>= backward frh = freehanded c = circle 1ft = one foot 8 = figure eight ww =
>wheel walk

ohhhh! well that explains a lot! I was way off about the “c” and “8”. :slight_smile: the
rest I figured out.

>The seat cannot touch the body unless it specifically says it can for any skill
>where the seat is out.

gotcha.

>Got any more standard skill questions? If so, then fire away, or if you prefer,
>consult the standard skill section of the IUF or USA rulebook at:
>http://www.unicycling.org/iuf/rulebook/iufrules/7sslist.html

ah ha! perfect!

>There is also a standard skill tutorial now on the USA website at
>http://www.unicycling.org/usa/competition/standardskill/ which can help you put
>together a routine.

that’s what I’ve been using. thanks!!

what’s twisting?

105a twisting 2.8

one more thing - do you get points for the trick, the transition to the next
trick, and the following trick? or do you just get the # of points for the
whole thing like “540 uni spin to seat in front” (not that I can do that!)
for 6.6 pts?

Tammy :slight_smile:


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RE: std. skill questions

thanks to John as well! :slight_smile:

>An 8 after a trick means figure eight. I don’t know where you’re seeing a
>7.

lol! whoops, I must have created that with my imagination. never mind!

>Look in the Standard Skill Rules area:
>http://www.unicycling.org/iuf/rulebook/iufrules/4stdskl.html for diagrams of
>how the different figure shapes are ridden.

oh, ok. Thanks! I get it now … this looks really technical! I’m going to
suck!! oh well. :slight_smile:

Tammy


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>That’s where you have your pedals horizontal and you twist the wheel back and
>forth by twisting at your waist, you have to twist 45 degrees to each side. The
>rulebook definition: Staying in place twisting the unicycle left and right
>around a vertical axis.

I see… so kind of like horizontal idling… but not really?

>If you have all those tricks on your list in that order, then you can get the
>points for all the tricks. So for the “540 uni spin to seat in front”, you
>could have:
>
>169g 540° uni spin to seat in front 6.6 3b seat in front 2.3 151a seat in front
>to riding 1.7
>
>And have the possibility of getting 10.6 points.

oh wow! that is really cool!

>If you just did the one skill, then you have to ride out of it one revolution
>or hop 3 times or idle 3 times for you to get the full points
>(6.6) for that transition.

ok, I think I got it now. :slight_smile:

Tammy http://MarshT.tripod.com


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Re: std. skill questions

Tammy Marsh wrote:
>
> we are trying to figure out how to do std. skill routines, and I have a couple
> questions for you guys…
>
> take this one, for example. does that mean split wheel walk?

Yup! That’s a common name for the skill. The full definition of the skill is:
Riding forward by propelling the wheel with one foot placed on the wheel in
front of the frame and the other foot placed on the wheel behind the frame.

> what does the “c” mean? sometimes it’s a 7 or an 8 after the trick, is that
> the level?

Those are abbreviations for different things: fwd = forward ext = extended bwd
= backward frh = freehanded c = circle 1ft = one foot 8 = figure eight ww =
wheel walk

> 22b wheel walk frame between feet -c 4.2
>
> can the seat not touch your body for the seat on side tricks?

The seat cannot touch the body unless it specifically says it can for any skill
where the seat is out.

Got any more standard skill questions? If so, then fire away, or if you prefer,
consult the standard skill section of the IUF or USA rulebook at:
http://www.unicycling.org/iuf/rulebook/iufrules/7sslist.html

There is also a standard skill tutorial now on the USA website at
http://www.unicycling.org/usa/competition/standardskill/ which can help you put
together a routine.

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Tammy Marsh wrote:
>
> thanks gilby!! is that definition in the rule book?

Yup, right from here:
http://www.unicycling.org/iuf/rulebook/iufrules/7sslist.html#d22

> what’s twisting?
>
> 105a twisting 2.8

That’s where you have your pedals horizontal and you twist the wheel back and
forth by twisting at your waist, you have to twist 45 degrees to each side. The
rulebook definition: Staying in place twisting the unicycle left and right
around a vertical axis.

> one more thing - do you get points for the trick, the transition to the next
> trick, and the following trick? or do you just get the # of points for the
> whole thing like “540 uni spin to seat in front” (not that I can do that!) for
> 6.6 pts?

If you have all those tricks on your list in that order, then you can get the
points for all the tricks. So for the “540 uni spin to seat in front”, you
could have:

169g 540° uni spin to seat in front 6.6 3b seat in front 2.3 151a seat in front
to riding 1.7

And have the possibility of getting 10.6 points. If you just did the one skill,
then you have to ride out of it one revolution or hop 3 times or idle 3 times
for you to get the full points
(6.6) for that transition.

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RE: std. skill questions

Is a figure 7 equal to a figure 8 minus 1? Is a figure 16 just two figure 8’s?

Never mind…

Tony

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skill questions

thanks to John as well! :slight_smile:

>An 8 after a trick means figure eight. I don’t know where you’re seeing a
>7.

lol! whoops, I must have created that with my imagination. never mind!

>Look in the Standard Skill Rules area:
>http://www.unicycling.org/iuf/rulebook/iufrules/4stdskl.html for diagrams of
>how the different figure shapes are ridden.

oh, ok. Thanks! I get it now … this looks really technical! I’m going to
suck!! oh well. :slight_smile:

Tammy


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