I used to wear the 661s a lot and I have KH percussion leg armor too. I must say that neither of them is very comfortable when worn directly on uncovered skin. Both models tend to rub and make sore spots. They also slide down which means that the knee protection is an illusion that ends once you actually fall on your knees. So I’m currently looking for a good combo of separate knee and shin protectors. I’ve been looking at 661 DJ and TSG or TryAll shin guards. Any other recommendations?
Thanks for the feedback
I can’t seem to find a sizing chart for the KH stuff. Would it be the same as 661? If he’s a large 661 would he be a large KH? Can you tell me if KH runs large/small compared to other products?
Just what I was looking for. Thanks.
Good idea for a thread. I have had the same pair of 661 4x4s for nearly 5 1/2 years now and have had a lot of really good use from them. In that time one of the plastic loops (for one of the crossover velcro straps) broke and there are some small rips in the back of the mesh and the front shin area is a bit tatty with small rips and freys- they are still completely usable and offer good protection.
When i started wearing them i used to get sweat rashes behind my knees from the rubbing and i still do when i wear them for 35km+ rides- but for shorter outings or DH runs (i do not wear them for most of my xc country riding these days) they are nice for piece of mind.
My 661s do tend to leave the knee area a little exposed (especially in high speed crashes) but i put that more down to the fact i am still using medium sized pads when i probably need a large.
One of the things i really like about the 661 4x4s is the back of the leg protection it provides. I think the pads have saved the back of my legs more than they have the front- really important when you are riding down super steep DH and often come off the back of the uni instead of the front.
I can highly recommend the 661s but having never used the KH pads i can’t do a comparison. I will probably buy some new pads in the next while so any input you can give me on the KH pads would be good.
Cheers,
Mark
Go with KH armor
I looked at the KH leg armor sizing chart, and according to my height, I should get the XL (I am 6’2’’). However, I have pretty thin legs and am wondering if the circumference of the pads goes up a lot with size, and if the XL would be too big around.
Maybe shoot Kris an email from his site, or a phone call to UDC, explaining your conumdrum… Possibly he/somebody can help you choose the right size.
I called UDC about 661’s because I am 5’10" with small hands and wrists, but long legs and thick (muscular) arms… Someone there actually measured a few sizes while we were on the phone together… Got the right fit the first time!
I used the 661s, and now I use the KH and they are awesome. My 661 got killed in one summer and I have my KH for about 2 years now.
I’m 6’3" and about 155-160lbs, so I’ve got pretty slim legs. I ordered the XLs and they fit me just fine. I’ve never tried 661’s, but I love the KH armor. 
wtf?! i never knew you were 6’3, dang.
Haha, I’ll take a picture of myself next to a tape measure if you don’t believe me;)
I remember someone once thought that I was riding a 16 because I make 20’s look sort of small.
I ride street,flat and some trials… Before I used 661 4x4 lite but I hated knee protection and it was useless for me…
Then I tried KH shin guards and they also were uncomfortable and way too big.
Now I use KRK Asflats (www.krkprotection.com) and they are perfect ;]!
KrkProtecion is a polish company, not well known in Europe but I strongly recommend them (not only because I’m pole)…
They cost something like 25Euro (if You want to buy them- let me know, I’ll send You link).
For flat and street they are comfortable, strong and they protect well (not knee area). To muni You can upgrade them by using KRK Skull Knee Protection.
greets
Hi folks I’m after some advice. I’ve been looking for some leg protection as I’m just starting out and getting a few minor knocks and bumps. I’m mainly messing around on flat tarmac, learning sif and sif hopping at the moment and my knees are complaining slightly. I intend moving onto muni once I’m more adept (and if my knees don’t complain!). I’ve looked at the KH leg armour and also the 661 Pro Knee/Shin Guards, the 661 Race Knee/Shin Guards and the 661 Comp Knee/Shin Guards. The 661 stuff is all on sale and is significantly cheaper than the KH leg armour. My question is, is the 661 stuff fine for what I’m doing at the moment or would I be better getting the KH? Or are there other alternatives that I’ve missed? On a vaguely related point can anyone suggest a good (and cheap) knee support that I could wear alongside the leg armour? Thanks.
Jon
hi guys i got some fusion shin guards they fit spot on lots of protection not too hot i think separate knee pads will be better for comfort i could be wrong not tried anything else
The KH leg armour is for trunk sized legs. I had to sew on hook bands onto the elastic bands. Here is my first prototype. This is [post=1461829]the final product[/post] of my modifications.
I have both the 661 and KH. They are both good. The KH are easier to take off and put on. For the money, I would go with 661. For the convenience I would go with KH. They both fit me okay.
I have both
For the first 2 years of riding, I had 661’s. They did rub here and there but usually because I didn’t have them strapped right, on really long rides, I’d restrap them occasionally and this seemed to help. For the money, they’re great.
I found a good deal on KH percussions, I honestly like them better, no rubbing, definitely hotter but wearing shin/knee guards is not going to be very cool unless they have no back coverage (as unicyclists, we kind of need it).
I took an old pair of 661’s and cut the knee part off, when it’s really hot, I’ll wear just the shin pad, it works great and not as hot.
That’s what I did with my old 661’s! They were a hardshell plastic that was nice for bike trials, but overkill for muni.
I’m using the Race Face Flank knee/shin guards now. They’re pretty comfortable and stay in place; the only real drawback for me is that they don’t protect the back of my calves. That’s not a spot that gets hit hard, but I’ve scraped the pedal pins along my calf a couple of times.
I had a pair of those too, I didn’t like the no protection in the back of the calves. During Muni, we often slip off the pedals by going in front of them.