I downloaded an short clip off the net a little while ago (don’t remember where) that shows a guy free mount a uni and ride it a short distance through a parking garage. The movie isn’t very impressive, (no offense) but just the other day I decided to try the mount the guy in the moie did; what it is is you have the pedals parallel to the ground and put one foot on the closest one to you. You then grab the wheel, put your weight forward, and put your other foot on the far pedal then ride away.
I was wondering if this is actually a different mount or if it is just considered a variation of the regular free mount. If it is different, then i willl have my four mounts for level four (standard, side, side reverse, and this one) but if not then I’d better keep looking. Help, Anyone?
This was probably a clip of somebody freemounting a Coker which requires some different approaches because of the big wheel. One of the techniques involves holding the wheel with one hand.
If you’re looking for a fourth mount, try the jump mount. It is by far the easiest one that I have learned. (Standard, reverse, side, side-reverse, step-over-side, jump) I say standard is hard because it’s almost always the first freemount anyone ever does so in that sense it’s hard to learn. I say the jump mount is easy because I nailed it the first time I tried it and have never failed doing it. It’s just kind of scary looking.
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> … You then grab the
> wheel, put your weight forward, and put your other foot on the far
> pedal then ride away.
Are you sure that’s not an ultimate wheel? I remember a video just like this
(parking lot et al) with a six-spoked ultimate wheel.
0xADF
http://www.muniac.com/videoclip.htm
Check out the third one down on that page. That may be what your remembering. It shows Scott Bridgeman mounting and riding an Ultimate Wheel.
Ben
> in the moie did; what it is is you have the pedals parallel to the
> ground and put one foot on the closest one to you. You then grab the
> wheel, put your weight forward, and put your other foot on the far
> pedal then ride away.
> I was wondering if this is actually a
> different mount or if it is just considered a variation of the regular
> free mount. If it is different, then i willl have my four mounts for
> level four (standard, side, side reverse, and this one) but if not
> then I’d better keep looking. Help, Anyone?
If you are describing a regular mount where the wheel rolls back before
going forward, and a regular mount where the wheel doesn’t roll back, yes,
they are very different for a beginner but no, I would not count it as two
separate mounts to pass skill levels.
Basically level 1 calls for a “regular” mount.
Level 2 calls for a regular mount with your opposite foot.
Levels 3 and up require different types of mounts, and you subsequently
can’t use the opposite foot as a separate mount.
Practice that kickup,
JF
The kick-up has the highest return on effort (low) for level of crowed appeal (high)- It is also naturaly dependant on basic down pedal mounting skill.
However, the Jump/Rolling mount both have a very high “Come on, Hombre- LET’S RIDE!” factor going for them.
As for ease of mounting on a hill, I suppose I would perfer to mount pointing uphill, or perpandicular, instead of downhill (assuming a prohibitively steep incline. This not neccessarly ture on shallow slopes or large [heavy] wheels). Learning to mount into a still stand and hop can be great for sticking steep hill mounts.
Christopher
Woops- that part was ment for the ‘Freemount on an incline’ thread. My bad.
Christopher
I can do all these mounts and I’m not too sure if they count as the same one or if any of them are different.
- Right crank forward, right foot on right crank to start.
- Right crank forward, pedal backwards with left foot to start.
- Left crank forward, left foot on left crank to start.
- Left crank forward, pedal backwards with right foot to start
- Right foot on tire, left crank forward, left foot starts mount.
- Left foot on tire, right crank forward, right foot starts mount.
- Both feet on tire, both feet onto pedals at same time.
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 18:10:49 -0800, “John Foss” <jfoss@unicycling.com>
wrote:
>If you are describing a regular mount where the wheel rolls back before
>going forward, and a regular mount where the wheel doesn’t roll back, yes,
>they are very different for a beginner but no, I would not count it as two
>separate mounts to pass skill levels.
That surprises and disappoints me. If they are very different for a
beginner, they must be very different per se, so why not count them as
separate mounts then?
Klaas Bil
“To trigger/fool/saturate/overload Echelon, the following has been picked automagically from a database:”
“mi5, FAS, AOL”
No, not all your mounts may count as separate. The rules state that
only one mount (i.e. the one for level 2) may be a mirrored version
(i.e. of the “standard” mount for level 1). Your mounts 1 and 3 are
mirror versions, as are 2 and 4, as are 5 and 6. Funny that the
standard mount (left crank forward, right foot on right pedal, no
rollback) is not listed.
Can you describe 7 in more detail? I have a problem picturing the
position of your feet.
Klaas Bil
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 20:06:05 +0000 (UTC), AccordNSX
<forum.member@unicyclist.com> wrote:
>I can do all these mounts and I’m not too sure if they count as the
>same one or if any of them are different.
>1. Right crank forward,
>right foot on right crank to start.
>2. Right crank forward, pedal
>backwards with left foot to start.
>3. Left crank forward, left foot
>on left crank to start.
>4. Left crank forward, pedal backwards with
>right foot to start
>5. Right foot on tire, left crank forward, left
>foot starts mount.
>6. Left foot on tire, right crank forward, right
>foot starts mount.
>7. Both feet on tire, both feet onto pedals at
>same time.
>
>
>
>
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>AccordNSX
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“To trigger/fool/saturate/overload Echelon, the following has been picked automagically from a database:”
“mi5, FAS, AOL”
basically number 7 is starting in wheel walk position and mounting from that.
i also got down jump mounting with seat in front tonight.
so how many mounts do i have total now?
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 06:26:07 +0000 (UTC), AccordNSX
<forum.member@unicyclist.com> wrote:
>basically number 7 is starting in wheel walk position and mounting
>from that.
I still don’t get it. Firstly, I thought you said that both feet were
on the pedals as well. That’s not the case in wheel walking. Secondly,
if you start in wheel walk position, how do you get in that starting
position? Thirdly, how can your feet be on the pedals and on the tyre
at the same time?
>i also got down jump mounting with seat in front tonight.
>so how many mounts do i have total now?
Assuming that the normal rollback mount would count as a standard
mount (the requirement for level 1 I think is a STANDARD mount, and
its mirror for level 2), I think you can now count to 6. But I’m not a
tester.
Klaas Bil
“To trigger/fool/saturate/overload Echelon, the following has been picked automagically from a database:”
“1071, TRIN00, utopia”
I managed a jump mount just now too.
How do you do a rolling mount? I think I did something similar tonight… I walked along with the uni out in front and just did a jump mount whilst still moving forward. Im almost positive the wheel didnt stop. Is this a rolling mount???
Leo
Ya, that’s roll’n, all right. I still have trouble (unintentionaly) pausing the wheel as I come over the top- my forward progress actualy doesn’t stop. It looks kinda funny: we walk, I jump and keep moving with the wheel pausing as my feet reach out and make contact, then the wheel get’s pulled along underneath. Practice practice practice. After you get real comfortable with this, switching to the off foot is great fun.
I REALY enjoy this mount; it feels like you’re flying along and just stick to the wheel- sort of the equivilant of catching a sword out of the air and striking with it in one motion. I suppose the kick up mount has simmilar swash-buckling qualities.
Christopher
Number 7 is basically where I sit on the seat and get balance with both feet on the ground. I then place both feet onto the tire, but don’t wheel walk, and transition from that into a start.
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002 20:46:18 +0000 (UTC), AccordNSX
<forum.member@unicyclist.com> wrote:
>Number 7 is basically where I sit on the seat and get balance with
>both feet on the ground. I then place both feet onto the tire, but
>don’t wheel walk, and transition from that into a start.
Ah you have a quite low seat then. A simpler variant to this mount
would be to go to the pedals directly as opposed to via the tyre.
(Hehe it’s a jump mount without a jump.) I don’t think that would be
enough of a difference to count as a separate mount.
Klaas Bil
“To trigger/fool/saturate/overload Echelon, the following has been picked automagically from a database:”
“Robert Hanssen, besopasnosti, informatie”
I haven’t been online for a couple of days so I missed these replies untill just now. But, just for the record, I am POSITIVE the movie I saw had a guy rididng a uni (which was, yes, probably a Coker) and NOT an ultimate wheel. The guy was also wearing a helmet and leg guards. (if that makes any difference) so I guess that my mount-in-questioning is not actually a mount, but that I should learn some others? Ok thanks.
> That surprises and disappoints me. If they are very different for a
> beginner, they must be very different per se, so why not count them as
> separate mounts then?
Because by level 3, you are no longer a beginner.
Those two basic mounts are variations on what I think of as a standard
mount. Being able to do either of those, with either foot, gets you past
levels 1 and 2. For level 3 it’s time for something more. By then the rider
should be ready for a side mount, back mount, or even a jump mount.
Stay on top,
JF
> Ya, that’s roll’n, all right. I still have trouble (unintentionaly)
> pausing the wheel as I come over the top- my forward progress actualy
> doesn’t stop. It looks kinda funny: we walk, I jump and keep moving
> with the wheel pausing as my feet reach out and make contact, then the
> wheel get’s pulled along underneath.
This is a good description of the learning process for a rolling mount. The
actual definition of the skill says that the wheel must not pause or stop
while you are mounting. But the safe way to learn it is to let the wheel
stop while you keep moving forward. You walk along, catch the pedal as it’s
coming up, keep your same forward speed while the wheel stops (or slows
down), and start pedaling when you’ve gotten in front of it.
Then for the full-fledged rolling mount, gradually increase the speed. You
don’t have to be going fast, but I think it’s easier to do this mount
without the wheel stopping if you’re going somewhere above walking speed.
The wheel must keep moving as you step on.
Stay on top,
JF
> Number 7 is basically where I sit on the seat and get balance with
> both feet on the ground. I then place both feet onto the tire, but
> don’t wheel walk, and transition from that into a start.
That’s definitely a different one. I guess you would call it something like
‘Mount to feet on wheel, then to pedals before moving forward’. I would
definitely count it different from the other mounts you listed, but I don’t
think I would count it different from a mount to walking the wheel.
Stay on top,
JF