No tools Coker

Woo hoo! Yesterday I mounted a Coker tire with no tools. My first time!

I have to admit that this particular tire has been on and off a few times.

Next goal: a new tire with no tools.

I removed my Coker tire the other day, tire levers in the car, nail-bitten fingers too sore, I was able to remove the tire with my pedal wrench :slight_smile:

Good job on the no-tooler, that’s quite a feat

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u either need some rockclimbing practise to strengthen your fingers or u just stumbled ont the most amazing finger strengthening exercise for climbers…

This may be a stupid question, but why on earth would you want to remove a tire without tools?

Well, there are two reasons to put on and remove a tire without tools. The most significant is that the improper heavy-handed use of tools can damage your tire, tube, and/or rim. So it pays to practice using tools as little as possible. The other reason is to demonstrate that your technique is sophisticated enough to do so.

What happens with Coker tires is that it can be difficult enough to work the tire on and off that you actually bend plastic tire tools in half. So the next step is to get metal tools, which are really damaging to the rim, and can be to the tire as well. In order to reverse this seductive trend, you work at putting the tire on with as little tool use as possible.

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This must be on one of the Airfoil rims. The tires practically fall off of the steel rims.

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Here’s my experience with trying to force a Coker tire on an Airfoil rim: Putting a Coker tire on the Airfoil rim

It was a real bitch getting that tire on and I am familiar with some of the tricks to mount difficult tires.

One big problem was that the tire was getting hung up on the Velox rim tape so the tire wasn’t sliding down all the way into the middle section of the rim. Perhaps a thinner rim strip would make mounting the Coker tire easier.

I did notice that it was much easier to mount the tire when there was no tube. This could possibly be the best argument for using Stan’s No Tubes system with a Coker tire. :wink:

                                                                                        Actually, I found it harder to mount with the Stan's.  After you seal the rim with strapping tape you have to run some foam tape over it to fill the gap in the center of the rim.  Without the foam tape, the tire sits in the center and will not inflate, compressor or not.  Building up the center forces the rubber strip to seal the tire and rim strip interface before it seats the bead.

Well then, scratch that. I thought Stan’s No Tubes might have had an advantage there, but no go.

Anything that makes it easier to get the tire on the Airfoil rim would be a good thing, IMHO. Too bad No Tubes is not the answer.

What rim strip or rim tape do you use? And what width? I used a wide (22 mm wide) Velox tape. Perhaps narrower tape or even a different brand of rim tape would make it easier to mount the Coker tire?

Hey John; excellent insight. Why am I not surprised?

Yes I’ve switched to a 16mm poly tape from Salsa. It is still about 2-3mm too wide, but that’s a lot less than the Velox. But the narrower tape really does help. It rolls up less easily when the tire pulls on it, and when it does the roll is easier to fix. This tape now goes in all the Strongest Wheels I build for people. It still takes 2 rolls to do a wheel, though, and AFAIK it’s not available in continuous rolls. Also – I think the poly tape is more slippery than the cloth Velox, which helps some.

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Fait accompli. :wink:

Re: No tools Coker

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:54:45 -0600, U-Turn
<> wrote:

>> *Woo hoo! Yesterday I mounted a Coker tire with no tools. <snip>
>> Next goal: a new tire with no tools. *
>Fait accompli. :wink:

OK. Now in harmony with the thread title, the next goal is to remove a
tyre with no tools. It may be a used tyre to start with :slight_smile:

Klaas Bil - Newsgroup Addict

I have a feeling you might need two points of contact with the ground for such a thing to work? Or at least training wheels on the front and rear. - John Foss commenting on a picture of a one-wheeled vehicle he saw on RSU.

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You don’t miss a thing, Klaas. Ouch! OK. I think I’m going to have to grow out a fingernail.