N00b tries to transition to the 29....hilarity ensues.

Wow. Thx for the info, guys. I had a sinking feeling it wasn’t just me. Oh well. As I said, I like everything about this unicycle with the exception of this one minor issue. The prospect of watching it getting worse over time is a little scary. Maybe I’ll fire off an email to the place in Portland where I got it and see what he thinks…

Thanx again.

I have had similar clicking noises with my KH20 with Fusion seat. It appears to be the seat, and Josh at UDC told me that with a lot of use the seat internals can come loose. He told me to buy the KH seat reinforcement kit.

But I’ve noticed that when I tighten the bearing housings, the clicking seems to stop for a bit. So maybe it’s just that.

MYSTERY SOLVED!

OK, during tonight’s ride, I felt the creaking / clicking again–not as bad as it was before I tightened the seat, but definitely still there. Afterwards, I groped around looking for the source of the issue and was finally able to isolate it. Initially, I was confused because even though I could feel the click / creak while riding, no amount of post-ride tugging, pushing and pulling around the hub, pedals, cranks, or seat could reproduce it. Finally, I grabbed the nose and back of the seat and applied light but firm lateral pressure in both directions as if tightening and loosening the cap on a bottle. Bingo! There it was, loud and clear. The mysterious creak somehow results from the small amount of side-to-side pressure that must be exerted on the seat during riding, especially during cornering. I’m relieved to have finally found the source of the issue, particularly as it doesn’t seem to be a real problem–more of a quirk or aspect of this saddle’s character, I suppose. I’m curious as to whether or not others with the Freeride seat can reproduce the creak / click in this way…

Hey, thanks for listening, and sorry for the false alarm. :stuck_out_tongue:

Is the noise actually coming from the seat though. During the process of locating the sound on my uni (see above), I also came to the conclusion that it was the seat, because, with the wheel locked between my feet and twisting the saddle in my hands, the sound happened.

However, after stripping down the saddle, putting it all back together, and doing up all the bolts super-tight, the same thing happened.

It turned out that twisting the saddle just transfers the twist down to the bearing holders, which, in my case, where the real culprit.

Hopefully you’re right, but, if after addressing the saddle, the sound remains, suspect the bearing holders.

Cool…thx for the heads-up. I’ll do a doublecheck tonight. --cheers.

Mystery not solved!

Oops! Went for a four-mile ride this evening after checking all the seat bolts for tightness, and the creaking still got slightly worse. It’s now audible and seems to be more frequent. This time, I really took a close look and listen as I reproduced the creak, and I’m afraid I’m probably a member of the Creaky KH Club. There’s definitely something not right here. I guess there’s nothing to do but follow UniShark’s advice and schlepp the thing down to Portland from whence it came. Drat! …and I was just at the point of really enjoying this ride! Oh well…

Thanks for the input, folks. :angry:

So the seat is tightened, but have you checked the bearing caps yet?

These guys:

Where the frame attaches to the wheel. You want them tight, but not so tight as to impede the wheel spinning freely. If they seem loose tighten them up, with the uni upside down give the wheel a spin with your hand. If the wheel slows and stops in one or two revolutions your bearing caps are probably a tad too tight.

In mine and other cases it’s not a loose bearing cap and it’s not so much a creak as it is a series of clicks.

I had this same problem.
I took off the bearing caps, and they were dirty/gritty inside. I cleaned them, the bolts, etc. with WD 40, reinstalled carefully, and the creaking stopped completely.

If you want, I’m in Portland and can take a look at it. I have some spare KH bearings, if all else fails, we can swap them out too.

Let me know, I’d be happy to help troubleshoot.

Whoah…Thanx TONS for the great input on this issue, guys! I was already resigning myself to buying a new hub and having my wheel rebuilt, but it sounds like there might be less expensive a repair option here. I will definitely try these things this weekend.
Sorry for allowing this thread to morph into a How To Fix Your Creaky KH thread, but I really like all other aspects of this uni, and again, I really do appreciate your input in helping me get her to 100%. ;);):wink:

GOD, WHAT A DOPE!

Alright, I admit it. I’m and idiot. I encountered a problem whose solution was staring me in the face the whole time, and rather than apply a little thought, I wasted everyone’s time. You see? This is what happens when you allow TOTAL N00Bs into your forum! hahahahahaha! And what makes it worse is that I’m sure the guy who sold me the KH must have explained this solution to me as part of his stock speech on routine maintenance, but at the time I was all slack-jawed and drooling at the sight of my shiny new toy and whatever was said went in one ear and out the other.
OK, so tonight I left the office and headed out for my usual twirl on the uni. But before getting going, I took jbtilley’s advice and checked the bearing cap torque. DOH! The bolts on one cap were fairly tight, but those on the other cap were nearly finger-loose! After tightening all four bolts to the same degree and making sure the wheel still rotated freely, I gave the seat a twist and heard…nothing! With a wildly beating heart, I quickly mounted and put the KH through her paces, grabbing 30 fast laps of the parking garage without a single click, creak, ping or pop! My gorgeous KH 29 is back, tighter than ever and ready for action!

–I humbly and sincerely apologize for my n00bness, and even though everyon’e tired of hearing me say it…“thanks!” :D:D:D

Hi YooNeeNoob
I’ve been following your posts. I’m glad you got it sorted. :slight_smile:

can’t jump

I’ve been riding for months and I still can’t hop. Maybe I just never tried?:o

BRAT UPDATE: He’s doing 180 hop-turns now…I could just kill him.

ME UPDATE:
So happy that I found out how to take care of my shiny new KH 29! I’ve been riding all week with no problems whatever…YAY! In fact, I just got back from a 16.7-mile ride along one of our local bike paths (Marymoor Climbing Rock to Woodinville park and back). It was VERY fun and it taught me alot about path quality vs. road quality, road angle and its impact on riding comfort, etc. I UPDd prolly half a dozen times, but had no trouble freemouting back on in one or two tries. Actually, they weren’t really unplanned (except for two), since I was just getting off for water.

Anyone have a sec to answer couple of questions?

When I bought the KH, I also got the little touring handle. It’s been siting in my closet waiting for me to get accustomed to the new wheel. How soon should I think about mounting it on my KH? What do you gain by having it?

Thanks UNI-sters! :sunglasses:

BTW: Other peoples’ comments are one of the best parts of riding. here’s a sampling:

  1. “It’s easier with two wheels, ya know…”
  2. “That’s takes LOTS of skill!”
  3. “That’s REALLY impressive!”

…while getting water at the park:

  1. “That’s a HUGE wheel! Can you ride that thing?”

hahahahahha…fun.

You gain

  1. extra controlability and, in some strange way, a ‘feel’ of the road: when I used my 29-er handle i found it much easier and secure to ride over rough stuff on the road that, minus the handle, I’d have had to slow down on.

  2. a learning curve- it will take some weeks before you can keep your hand on the handle (which is necessary for the above ‘feeling the road’)

  3. when you can keep a grip on the handle, you’ll be able to go faster

  4. extra torque for uphills and control on the downhills

  5. a place to stick your speedometer/music machine etc

You lose

  1. the beautiful simplicity of the pure, unadorned, unicycle- and it’ll be a bit more hassle to carry

  2. a bit of freedom- once you get accustomed to the handle, you could well end up feeling the need for it: going back to handle-less will leave you, at least for a time, feeling a bit vulnerable and less in control of the unicycle

I used a handle for quite a while, and it’s very useful. I found it nice especially on the roads if a car passes a bit close- grabbing the handle gave me that bit more security and control, especially if the road was less than smooth- no-one wants to UPD when a car is passing.

Now I ride handle free- it’s a different riding experience for sure, and, you can’t go as fast, but I prefer it :slight_smile:

Thanks OWD, for the great information! You’ve given me a lot of new stuff to think about. Much appreciated. :wink:

I run custom “one handed” handles on my most of my unis in place of the grab handle, you can find pics on the forum in the review section. I prefer a single handed grip, but grab handles are not ergonomically correct, so my single bar end allows a “natural” grip like you’d have on the KH touring bar, but the placement is centered in the seat. You could set one up using the KH Tbar, I posted pics of mine in a thread somewhere… Custom Grab Handles, post what you got!

I now have a KH Tbar with two handles and I’m “getting used to it”, though I can use it two handed, often I ride one handed, switching hands ever so often, on occassion I use two hands as practice or for taking some pressure off my bum.

I’d go ahead and mount it, then try getting used to it over time. Some folks have found that setting up the bar with it extended ~ 5" and installing a mtb grip is useful for one handing, then you still have the two handed position extended further out. See Turtle’s pictures under the KH T Bar thread: T-bar discussion thread

Wow. Very cool. More stuff to ponder. This handle thing is more complicated than I thought. I think I’ll go ahead, though, since the benefits seem to be related to my goal of using the uni as transportation.

Thanks VERY much, NB!

I have had this problem with new KH unicycles. I find that I need to over tighten the bearing holders ( a lot!) to get them to seat properly. Before riding it, I will loosen them and more deliberately tighten them to get a reasonable pressure.

It seems like the machined bearing caps on a KH have very little clearance and it takes some work to get them to seat well.

Scott

:astonished: Had we started out at the same time I’d be giving brat updates on YOU.

Seriously though, you haven’t been riding all that long and you’re already up to almost 17 miles. That is quick progress indeed. After some excessive time away from the uni it took me several months to condition myself for distances like that… and I already knew how to ride!