Muni Handlebars - BMX Style

I searched and searched but didn’t find anything like I have in mind.

I come from a BMX and MX background. I really like a wide bar that offers the benefit of lateral leverage.

I only see homemade Muni bars that are very skinny.

  1. Has anyone tried a wider BMXish style bar? Pics?

  2. Any thoughts on the benefits / disadvantages?

I feel the wider position would be awesome to torque up a hill for example, standing and pulling up on the opposite bar, like a BMX bike.

Thanks for help,

Andy

Most who use handlebars are either road riders or XCers. The bar is mostly used transfering weight off the seat.

There is little need for lateral leverage and if you have a large bar you are more likely to get tangled w/ it in a UPD.

There are a couple of people who have use a moderately sized bar for Muni that I can think of off the top of my head (corbin & turtle).

Thanks Buddy.
UPD might get gnarly…
Any links to corbin & turtle?

Corbins:

What advantages have people experienced with Muni Bars?

They work great but you have to lean into the turns.

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You’ve been countering torque from your leg with your opposite side, but what tends to happen is that you force the handlebar down alternately as you pump your legs. If you had front suspension, you would watch the suspension squish… this is wasted energy that isn’t so visible while riding a bmx. Bmx uses bursts of power and intensity for what gets done with them so the loss of energy by pumping the bars isn’t relevant.

If you’re looking for some power advantage, drop your elbows and lean down, pull on the bars evenly on both sides toward your bellybutton you would lock out the smaller muscles, and use the more efficient and powerful larger muscle groups like the lats and traps to get more boost to the crank. You’ll notice the effect on steeper hills.

The wide bars may help power regardless of your technique. However, I have skinny handlebars on my uni to rest, or shift weight, or mount stuff. Most importantly, the bar must pass through my legs if I were to come off the front. I think a wide bar will trip you up on a UPD, by snagging one or both legs by the ankle and catapult you straight into the ground. I wouldn’t want wide bars for MUni or Flatland because of the need to bail. I blame handlebars for not always landing on my feet in a mountain bike crash.

I think the further away the handlebars are from the saddle is safest, and the more likely you can attain a 45 degree angle of your back is the most efficient. Triathlon aero bars are the best application, maybe drop bars. The forward lean of your torso allows better engagement of the glutes for power and efficiency. I think the KH bar is fantastic, and I wouldn’t go wider unless you’re touring with aero bars.

Comfort is the main advantage, allowing you to ride longer.

corbin

The reason a bike has wide bars is because you need leverage to angle the head tube to initiate a turn, whereas on a unicycle it takes far less effort to initiate a turn. On BMX, a wide bar allows aggresisve moves such as hopping, jumping, tricks, etc…

A unicyle just doesn’t need so much bar, in fact a wide bar would be an overkil. Also, how would you manage one handed riding!

Like Corbin said, it’s more for comfort than control.

If you want more power, i.e control, and a standard nylon grab handle is not sufficient, then you need to look at single bar styled grab handles. I built one, as have others, some people swear by them :slight_smile:

Thanks all.
Very helpful.
I’m gunna make a set, not sure of design yet (prob one of the “post your home mades”)
How many here use a set for Muni?
And do they benefit your particular riding?

At least one person here uses a set for their muni.

Yes, it benefits my riding significantly!

corbin

For roads, I wouldn’t now ride long distances without my T-bar.

Offroad I don’t use a T-bar for hard technical downhill, where I prefer just the saddle handle and brake mount under that handle. That is a particular preference for me on Vancouver North Shore trails that have super tech sections, balance lines and bigger drops.

For all other kinds of XC muni, I really appreciate having my T-bar. It adds control and it adds a huge amount of comfort - it is fantastic to be able to ride all day and not be sore at the end. That is particularly the case on a geared uni but I’d suggest it to anyone for XC riding, geared or not. I suspect that this handle setup will eventually become much more ubiquitous than it is today.

Kris

http://host.madison.com/image_6db60f8e-0620-11df-be3f-001cc4c03286.html

Thats an interesting set of bars, but if you get a real supprise UPD as happens sometimes and get your legs trapped under the bars your going to end up with missing skin or worse: :astonished: You are creating the same danger that existed with the penny farthing :thinking: