KH20 Flatland uni project

A future idea would be to maybe make somthing light and strong, so people can have a trials, street, and MUni all in one, just with a quick tire change.

sorry bout the off topicness, just an idea.

Hey! Looks good! All I can say is a change in color would be nice. I’m kinda getting tired of the blue… Maybe even some various graphic designs along the frame as well. (?)

I would want my basketball uni to have a narrow rim and narrow hub; I’m a little annoyed that there doesn’t appear to be a commercially-available 36-hole hub in the width of my Miyata. But this is probably at least as good as the Nimbus X as a 20" basketball uni.

Is uni basketball actually a seious sport? I thought it was just something to do for the sake of it.

What kind of question is that? Is street a serious sport? To me it looks like a bunch of geeky guys in too-loose clothing doing tricks that you have to show in super slow-mo just to see the difference between them.

Come play against our team at UNICON and you’ll see how serious it is.

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I think that something like this would help a lot beacause there are a lot of people that are coming from a freestyle type of unicycling. It is also nice for those of us who would just like to do a more freestyle oriented flatland. Something like this is great beacause it will bring a wider range of skills to competitions and videos. You wont be stuck watching to see who can do the biggest crankflip or the biggest unispin. Its cool to see something like a quadhickflip or 1080 unispin etc but I think that flatland would benefit more from the wider range of tricks than just seeing who can do a few tricks bigger than anyone else.
Again great work Spencer and Kris.

Geeky guys in baggy clothing? loool

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Yeah thats pretty hilarious ahahahaha
Vs me in street or flat (I’ll let you pick). Get a 1% vote out of 100% against me and I’ll consider joining your basket uni ball opponent.

Jokes aside…
Yes. I was being serious. Are there specialized unicycles for hockey and basketball? Not gonna bother making a whole new thread about something so small.

i don’t wanna argue and i think all the unicyclest should stand together. so it 's all unicycling: freestyle, roadriding, muni, flat, street, trial etc.

and also i’m not very long in this sport (since 4 years) but i know that uni-basketball and hockey is much, much older than street and flat (since when is street and flat at unicon?) :roll_eyes:

we play also sometimes basketball and hockey (not in the official swiss league, just for fun), and from that i know it needs alot of skills

Def takes a lot of skill. But i just figured its the kind of thing you only do for a giggle. Like slow races and other silly things. I wouldnt really compare it to street flat trials or muni… the 4 leading styles in unicycling (obviously). Extreme unicycling is leading us into the future and getting us more publicity then anything. Not clowning around. Unicycle basketball and hockey… its like… “oooh look at me, i can do what you can do, but on a unicycle! Arn’t I awesome!”

I dunno… OTT

Yeah, just like what trials, street, and muni riders can say to bikers! :astonished:

But personaly I dont think a hockey/basketball specific unicycle should be made at all… These little adjustments shouldn’t be mass produced just for basketball players..

Also Kris, have you thought of making a 32 hole rim and hub for this project?

OK, you’d probably class me as another “old person” but you seem to want to turn every thread into an argument and I’m feeling like a rant, so…

I believe the term is “FTFY”

I’ve always found it funny that the people who are most vocal in the “anti-clown/circus association” comments are the same people whose favourite riding style is doing tricks on tiny clown-like unicycles. Nothing wrong with it, and it can look pretty cool, but of all non-circus unicyclists (with the exception of other performers and perhaps pure freestylists) you’re the closest to a circus act of any of us.

I can mince up and down the road on foot, perhaps cross my legs over a bit when I walk, jumping a few times, up onto a ledge and down again, perhaps down some steps, spin round, slide down a banister… Doing all that on a unicycle is very different though. I can’t do it (and TBH have no real desire to learn). You can. Aren’t you awesome!

Right, rant over. Sorry about that - I feel better now :stuck_out_tongue:

On the topic of the thread: I’m obviously not a flatland rider so I can’t really give a direct opinion on that, but it seems that the unicycle Kris is talking about here has pretty much the same requirements as a freestyle uni. It may not be worth making a different “KH Flatland” frame, but if it had a narrower crown to fit a 20" bmx tyre closely would it not appeal to freestylists as well? In that case, would the potential market be large enough to justify a new frame? I’d imagine Kris would already have thought of that though - seems too obvious to have been overlooked.

EDIT: missed Kris’s post yesterday - looks like he’s already gone into the freestyle-flatland thing.

Rob

There are organized leagues. We play a very intense game of basketball every week, and we’re moving to two games a week in preparation for UNICON. The group dynamics and energy are basically the same as a game of playground basketball. Street is the segment that screams “ooh look at me!”–that’s what the street guys have a million videos, so they can show everyone else how cool they are. We just go out and play. And kick the ass of twerps who think they’ve invented unicycling.

Why are people relating to the K1 tubular cranks?
I have the K1 and i hurt my ankles pretty bad sometimes, thats beacause thats a flat area for rolls where the rollos are on moments, but why can´t you make two in one? tubular with a soft area and then some kind of rollos? like tubular with rollos, bacause the rollos are harder to get hurt with.

I think the moments are very clumbsy, so tubular cranks with rollos would be great!

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Adrien Delecroix currently has a 32H Moment hub & 19" rim to test, and I have a 32H 19" wheelset and 32H 24" wheelset prototype to test over the winter. But it’s not part of this project. One of the best things about unicycles is that we have (so far) managed to limit the number of standards; for example - bearing-bearing spacing, bearing size, spoke number, seatpost diameter and bolt patterns. The fewer the better, really, because it makes it easier for everyone, unlike the bike industry where there is a lot of unnecessary complication from a much longer history of varying standards. For that reason I am reluctant to release a 32H hub, without some serious thought, and likely it wouldn’t happen for quite some time. Anyway that is off topic - really should be in existing 32H thread. =)

K.

PWNED! :stuck_out_tongue: :sunglasses: :slight_smile:

-Isaac

Oh, and by the way. Kris I think this is a great idea. But personally, I would want mine with 125’s. I find anything shorter for flatland, just not for me. I think this uni could be used as a flatland, and even some freestyle.

Looking forward to this,

-Isaac

I also think this uni is a great idea! I think this style of riding is going to develop quite much, we just have to look at Spencer who is the shiniest example of this trend. There are also Till Wohlfart, Arthur Richard, the french freestyler, who mix pretty well free and flat. I also think my style tend to that, but in a lower level.

If I were to buy this uni, I would appreciate 90mm or even 80mm cranks, since I’m more free oriented, and I think 110mm is really too long to do pirouettes, or other variations of that. Also 90mm are perfectly ok for rolls, they just need a little more sensitivity and a bit of grip tape.

Anyway, I’m really looking forward to testing this uni!:slight_smile:

Edit: sorry to continue the threadjack…

Yet again, the unicyclist community scratches its collective head and asks, is this really who we want representing our sport?

It’s one thing to demonstrate some level of cluelessness about a sport which you’ve been hired to represent, but it’s an entirely different thing to marginalize a group within your own community.