Offset spoke holes, trailmix pedalsâŚFrom your picture I can tell it has neither.
Haha, now I feel suckered by AE bike.
Off to go buy a 29er for the price of my trials uni:)
wait a minute, why does the picture on the site have UDC stickers?
is the neck of the frame smooth or does it have a bump on it?
YeahâŚitâs not an '08. Doesnât really matter to me though.
Because theyâre using the picture from QBP which happens to have the uni.com sticks on it.
Okay, figured it out, click on âAccessoriesâ and then âAccessory Kitsâ and theyâre under there. But having a âUnicycleâ link might actually sell some of the things! (Congrats on the find, by the way, was looking to see if they had something I wanted.)
Any further modding for the unicycle in mind or will you keep it in stock???
Might throw on some Ody Twisted PC pedalsâŚthatâs about it.
Wow, cheaper then AEB, and 32 % cheaper then UDC on the KH20
That means they might sell a KH 36 for 488 $ delivered to my door.
I know itâs unlikely that this will happen, but I can dream. A KH 36 with geared hub for 1360 $. Still sounds a bit pricey. But only a few $ more then UDC wants just for the hub.
Thatâs a stretch though. UDCâs markup on geared hubs may not be so high, or bike island may not be able to get them.
It would be cool if they started to carry the 36 in a few months. I think that is possible.
I would advise anyone who wants a KH 20 or 29 to snatch this up now. 
Because they donât list the 24, I suspect they have limited stock, and this deal will not last.
KH might also put the Kibosh on their low advertised price, like KH did with AEB last year.
Bike Island states in their policy section that they use no secret prices or promotion codes, such as AEB uses to sell KH at a discount. I respect that. Treat every customer the same , and give everyone the same price.
So if KH says they must advertise 500 $ for the 20, I suspect bike island will drop the line.
I have great respect for KH, but I see internet sales as the future of uni cycling sales, not bike shops.
I have a hard time imagining anyone buying anything else, if they can get a KH 20 delivered to their door for 340 $.
The Nimbus used to be an OK deal, but after you add the moments and KH seat, plus UDCâs extraordinarily high shipping (at least twice $ as much as anyone else charges to deliver the same stuff), you get 280 + 53 $ moments, you are already at 333 $. And you still have to pay shipping and you donât get the KH seat or frame (the best parts really). No one would buy anything but KH if KH allowed them to be sold online for this price. KH sales could quadruple in one year. Presumably KH profits would more then quadruple (because units sold past overhead is profit). There are only so many uni buyers in the market, pulling sales from competitors is the only realistic way for KH sales to expand significantly. 
Somehow, Kris has a twinkle in his eye for the vision of true blue branded KHâs shining in retail bike shops across the world. Of unicycles gaining parity with bicycles as high end shop ornaments. Of unicycling becoming as main stream as bike riding.
I donât think it will ever happen, because uni riding is a screwy thing with very limited mass appeal. For instance, my town has a dozen bike shops, but I bet I am the only person to buy a KH in my town this year. Why would a bike shop give valuable retail space for something no one buys ? One shop carries UDC products, but the only uni on display is a grossly over priced Sun. None of the other shops carry any uniâs at all. Thatâs because they donât sell. 
This problem is even more severe for KH uniâs. Anyone sophisticated enough at uni riding to want a KH is extremely unlikely to pay 600 $, plus sales tax, at a LBS for a KH 20. They will do what I did, and look for the best deal on the internet. So even if a bike shop put a KH on display, no one would buy it if I didnât, and I am sure I wouldnât. This, of course, is why none are on display. Merely seeing a uni is no inducement to a normal person to want to buy one. For instance, thousands of people have seen me riding my KHâs, and hundreds of people talked to me about uni riding. No one asked me where they could buy a uni like mine. Zero, nada. Uni riders are freaks, and anyone that knows or cares what a KH is, is a hardcore rare freak. Quite likely already on this forum !
And yet to protect his flawed bike shop based retail vision, I predict Kris will kick himself in the nuts with one foot, and all the rest of us with the other, by enforcing MSRP policy against BI just as he did with AEB last year.
Iâm not trying to knock Kris, heâs obviously gifted, and has accomplished so much as a designer-maker and rider.
I am certain that if he sold the uniâs to us directly from his web site, for these low prices, that KH profits would go through the roof in a year. There is no good reason for UDC to make more money for taking an online order and handing a box to UPS (10 minutes labor) then KH makes for creating the uni. Yet UDC getâs 150 $ profit a sale by KHâs current marketing plan. The high resulting retail price is solely responsible for sales lost to other makers. Basically, I think Kris is a genius in many ways, but crap all at marketing. Heâs trying to pretend heâs a high end bike maker. But his base of potencial buyers is very different. Sure, bike and uni manufacture is the same. The uni markets is a specialist niche 1/5000 th the size as the bike market, with a core of rare nuts that buy his products. To use the same method of marketing is illogical
The only reason KH has succeeded so well is he is the only one to make product of this quality for this tiny niche market. Bike makers could out source and destroy KH , but they canât be bothered for such a minuscule market.
And yet KH refuses to embrace the appropriate marketing plan for this tiny niche market, instead embracing a high 30-40 % mark up on the retail end.
This hurts all of us, but the KH company most of all IMHO.
I worked in the bike industry for a while and 30-40 % mark up is pretty standard so I donât think the pricing of the KH products is off base with the rest of the industry at all.
Had I not found this deal I would have happily paid more for my new uni. That being said, now that the KH unis can be ordered through any bike shop that has a dealer account with QBP (which 99% of bike shops do) it is VERY EASY to get a better price than what UDC offers. Had I not stumbled upon this little score with bikeisland I was still going to get the KH20 for only $420 shipped.
Iâm going to say at 16, I have no ârealâ grasp of a business concept outside my world of minimum wage. That being said for Kris to invest time and money in shipping out his out product seems like an advantage to his business. He could make all of the profit by (clique coming up) âcutting out the middle manâ and doing it himself. But on the other hand doesnât UDC open up another market of sales by having bike shops willing to sell their product? Anyway, unicycles shouldnât be so much but it doesnât matter because thats what the market is willing to spend for them now. 
Darn you economics!
Why try to sell unis at LBS?
Does 1 in 5000 bike riders buy a uni? Why not endeavor to stimulate uni buying by displaying them in hair salons, or Harley shops?
In 1996, if you wanted to sell your brand of unicycles, a bike shop was sort of a natural mix. Sort of. There was nothing else. No other way to put your unicycles for sale to the public. Hair salons will laugh at you. Bike shops too, but some might tolerate a uni in the corner.
In 2008, unicycles are bought on the internet. We need someone who can take that box that says âKH from Taiwanâ, and hand it to UPS with a 1 % markup and put it on my door plus actual shipping costs. Anything less is bullshit, and will not survive IMHO.
The problem with the 40 % retail markup, is that there is no store, no overhead, no justification for this high $
The retail model makes sense only if your product is appealing to a large % of the people. Sure, sell broccoli, or bicycles at a local store. 100âs of people will come in to buy common products. It affords the expense of the space.
High end unicycles will never be there IMHO. I love riding as much as you guys, but I donât see people buying a KH just because they saw one in a shop.
In a tiny devoted niche market like unicycles, the company that can land the gear at your door for the best price over the internet, will totally rule.
This is because all good uni riders that are looking for good gear, are shopping on the internet, not at the LBS, or overpriced UDC. This is a niche market, and if KH fails to properly service it, someone else will figure out a way to do the obvious.
1% markup, yeah that would be good for the consumer but thatâs about it. Funny stuff. Good luck with that. Everyone needs to make a profit to survive, even drop-shippers and in-house businesses that have little to no overhead. Even in internet sales there is an acceptable profit to keep your busniess afloat and NOBODY does business with idea of a 1% profit margin, ESPECIALLY in a niche market. But it is a beautiful conceptâŚmaybe all retialers will start giving us stuff for close to free! 
uh oh
they added the 24" $414. f it im gettin all three. I wish
Actually, supermarkets have a 2-3 % markup
And they have the expense of a large retail space, refrigerators to run etc.
A place like Amazon.com or New Egg receives an internet order and a worker picks up a list with UPS labels automatically printed out. Driving around a giant warehouse in a golf cart, they stop, slap a label on the right box and put it in the cart. When the cart is full, they drive it to the loading dock for the UPS pickup, and grab the next list and stack of labels.
Labor spent handling the box, 2 minutes. Cost of a giant warehouse located on the cheapest real estate available needs to be figured in also.
A single employee can sell and ship a million dollars of stuff a day. So at 1 %, you have $ 10,000 a day income.
This isnât my idea ! Many companies are operating like this now.
Stop bumping this thread, at least until I get my 29er ordered:p
hey guys bike island still has khâs for real cheap.
I just order my wife a 29" and me a 24"
I donât know much about the rest of the economic talk going on here, I just know I wanted these cycles and this is the cheapest iâve seen them anywhere.
"Actually, supermarkets have a 2-3 % markup "
Thatâs beautiful however bikes and unicycles (of quality) are not sold in bulk or in supermarkets because they are niche. My KH uniâs are niche, my Ventana mountain bike is nicheâŚtheyâre not sold in a 10-pack at Sams. Like I said dotComâs do not sell for 1% markup and bike shops do not sell for 1% markup and dotCom bike shops do not sell for 1% markup. Everyone has overhead and 1% doesnât cover it (unless you have a monopoly and do massive sales numbers like Wal-Mart).
Hell when I worked for a bike shop doing their online web catalog even I didnât get 1% markup.
ALSOâŚhey if youâre in Key West right now stay safe dude!!!
Right on dudeâŚIâm gonna want to try out that 29âer sometime this fall! 
I canât find the kh 24 how do you do it??