Flatland question

[simonb]

@thestig

I think Turtle has been riding since a young age, so probably learnt these things in his younger days. I know you Terry learnt to ride young also :p.

Well to be fair, Turtle was over 30 when the crankflip was invented… So he couldn’t have learnt them in his ‘younger days’

[UniGeezer]

@thestig

I know you Terry learnt to ride young also :p.

I learned back in 1966, rode for about a year, then didn’t start again until 40 years later! :o But the difference between unis then and now is like the difference between:

[thestig]

Haha you hit the spot there, in fact they have advanced so much in the last 3 years…

[AlisterBurt]

.

@Nurse Ben

What a coincidence! I just pulled my son’s trials uni out last night and dusted it off, my plan being to develop some trials skills to help my muni riding.

So here’s the questions I have about trials:

How high do you run your seat?
Not too high when you’re starting out, but not so low you hurt your back, just do what’s comfortable
How about tire pressure, just enough to keep from hitting the rim or ?
just enough to keep it from hitting the rim when you prehop, otherwise it messes up your jumps and well… you hit the rim
Any tips on starting out, like routines? for trials?
little sidehops and skinnys, just try have fun with it
If you were going to build some trials stuff at home, what would you build?
Pallets and 2x4’s with some way of bracing it all should do you fine
I have a 2008 KH 20, street saddle seems a bit flexy, should I upgrade to a stiffer saddle or just wait till it breaks?
if you have the money I guess you could buy a CF base or the stiffener thing, should be fine though
Are 135’s too long, cuz I have 125’s for swapping?
135’s are good. if they’re kh, they’re actually 137’s

Terry, you are a beast!

BTW, I’m 45

[UniGeezer]

@Nurse Ben

What a coincidence! I just pulled my son’s trials uni out last night and dusted it off, my plan being to develop some trials skills to help my muni riding.

So here’s the questions I have about trials:

How high do you run your seat?
How about tire pressure, just enough to keep from hitting the rim or ?
Any tips on starting out, like routines?
If you were going to build some trials stuff at home, what would you build?
I have a 2008 KH 20, street saddle seems a bit flexy, should I upgrade to a stiffer saddle or just wait till it breaks?
Are 135’s too long, cuz I have 125’s for swapping?

Terry, you are a beast!

BTW, I’m 45

I built a pretty decent trials set up for my backyard a while back, and made some tutorials on how to make them. I have 137’s on my trials uni. I hope they are a good size for learning flat. I think the saddle should be much lower than normal, so it won’t get in the way as much when you do jumps and leg arounds/seat wraps, crankflips, etc.

[Nurse_Ben]

What got me going on this street trial thing was watching a couple vids by Corbin, esp the square and triangle, help me realize that trials was my ticket to being a better hopper.

So, maybe what I need to do is rebuild the wooden swing set with trials in mind

Oh, yeah, the gears are rollin’…

[knoxuni]

@Nurse Ben

What got me going on this street trial thing was watching a couple vids by Corbin, esp the square and triangle, help me realize that trials was my ticket to being a better hopper.

So, maybe what I need to do is rebuild the wooden swing set with trials in mind

Oh, yeah, the gears are rollin’…

i now how you feel i did 3 pallets high before it started to rain and almost got rolling leg wraps!

[Julia_B]

@MuniAddict

I built a pretty decent trials set up for my backyard a while back, and made some tutorials on how to make them. I have 137’s on my trials uni. I hope they are a good size for learning flat. I think the saddle should be much lower than normal, so it won’t get in the way as much when you do jumps and leg arounds/seat wraps, crankflips, etc.

Flatland seat height is a compromise I think. High seat feels nicer for rolls, but low seat is better for crankflips (at least for commiting). If I didn’t crankflips I’d ride a much higher seat.

[UniGeezer]

@Julia B

Flatland seat height is a compromise I think. High seat feels nicer for rolls, but low seat is better for crankflips (at least for commiting). If I didn’t crankflips I’d ride a much higher seat.

Makes sense Julia. Thanks for that! Makes me glad I have a quick release clamp for fast seat-height changes!

[akaestle]

look there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9nfKU7K_gM

This is the result of 2 year Flatland!At this time i worked for a new vid with varialroll, 450 unispin …!
Flatland is the best!

[UniGeezer]

@akaestle

look there:

YouTube - Unicycle Balingen

This is the result of 2 year Flatland!At this time i worked for a new vid with varialroll, 450 unispin …!
Flatland is the best!

That’s really good, and exactly the stuff I want to learn! Thanks for sharing.

[simonb]

@akaestle

look there:

YouTube - Unicycle Balingen

This is the result of 2 year Flatland!At this time i worked for a new vid with varialroll, 450 unispin …!
Flatland is the best!

Woaaaah, the combo ending at 2:03 was sick!

[erikmoda]

@akaestle

look there:

YouTube - Unicycle Balingen

This is the result of 2 year Flatland!At this time i worked for a new vid with varialroll, 450 unispin …!
Flatland is the best!

NIceeee vid man , but let me do a little question, Do you play Handball?

[Unicaw89]

@SmellyGeekBoy

I dug up the video! He’s 37 according to the forum, and this was posted in March this year:

YouTube - spring turtle

There’s some really good stuff in there - crankflips, unispins, big grinds, and of course that insane-o massive drop!

Wow and180to grind on a 26… Manly!

[akaestle]

No but i love this shoe for unicycling!

@erikmoda

NIceeee vid man , but let me do a little question, Do you play Handball?

[UniGeezer]

Another question. Do most flatland riders use higher psi than usual? Do you need to have compression like you do in other types of riding? I’m mostly wondering about when doing back rolls and anything where you’re pushing the wheel in either direction with your foot.

[Julia_B]

@MuniAddict

Another question. Do most flatland riders use higher psi than usual? Do you need to have compression like you do in other types of riding? I’m mostly wondering about when doing back rolls and anything where you’re pushing the wheel in either direction with your foot.

For most rolls psi doesn’t really matter, higher pressure can feel nicer though and roll smoother, while lower pressure feels more sluggish. For bigger tricks though like backrollflips (not that I can do them) lower psi would help to compress so you can jump higher and have more time to flip. Same with big unispins and flips, lower psi lets you jump higher and have more time to spin/flip. I personally ride low psi.

[SkierAlex]

@Julia B

This guy’s 37 and he’s a beast:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REOlMBYrj9g

Also tmoyer comes to mind.

I don’t think it’s the time constraint that’s limiting everyone, the only example when I could see this being a factor is if you unicycle for purely practical purposes (commuting). Otherwise you can pick and choose how much time you put into unicycling, and what discipline you focus on.

Flatland, street, and trials are usually a lot more dangerous than other styles, and I think the risk appeals more to younger riders, as we’re more willing to ride aggressively despite the danger. If you aren’t willing to do this, then the learning curve will be slow as well, and that probably further puts off most older riders. And tricks are for kids, right?

Muni is potentially as dangerous as any of those styles, it’s just that most muni riders are old which means they choose not to dangerous stuff, and I think it’s pretty obvious why.

I’d say drivers licence has something to do with it, and young people usually do what everyone else their age is doing, lol.

[UniGeezer]

@skieralex

muni is potentially as dangerous as any of those styles, it’s just that most muni riders are old which means they choose not to dangerous stuff, and i think it’s pretty obvious why.

I’d say drivers licence has something to do with it, and young people usually do what everyone else their age is doing, lol.

Sigged!

[Julia_B]

@SkierAlex

Muni is potentially as dangerous as any of those styles, it’s just that most muni riders are old which means they choose not to dangerous stuff, and I think it’s pretty obvious why.

I definitely see the potential for danger, but I don’t really see anyone pushing that potential. Kris Holm I guess, but I haven’t seen any footage of him in ages. I agree if there were younger riders in muni it’d probably be pushed more and more dangerous. Someone should make an epic muni vid… (cough Justin Kohse cough)