city riding

Hey People, For all of you city riders out there do you have any trouble with
cars completely taking over the cross walk areas allocated for pedestrians and
pedal powered people? The other day I had a car almost run me into traffic
because I decided to cross in the cross walk even though it was almost
completely blocked by this car because the sign said I could walk. So as soon as
I started across the car jerked infront of me to turn right on red, my wheel
went flying into the cross behind me and I had to catch myself before I smashed
into his car. Before he drove off he made eye contact with me and gave me the
dirtiest look i’ve ever gotten while on my wheel. I’m really starting to dislike
cars. Thanks for listening and I would love to hear any of your stories on the
subject. Later, everyone.

Aj

p.s. If you absolutely have to drive a car for everyone’s sake keep an eye out
for us and STAY OUT OF THE CROSS WALKS!!!

Re: city riding

I think it would be funny if this happened to a unicycle trials rider, where the
result was that the unicyclist ran over the car!

-Kris. — Aj <jugglerjoe@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> Hey People, For all of you city riders out there do you have any trouble with
> cars completely taking over the cross walk areas allocated for pedestrians and
> pedal powered people? The other day I had a car almost run me into traffic
> because I decided to cross in the cross walk even though it was almost
> completely blocked by this car because the sign said I could walk. So as soon
> as I started across the car jerked infront of me to turn right on red, my
> wheel went flying into the cross behind me and I had to catch myself before I
> smashed into his car. Before he drove off he made eye contact with me and gave
> me the dirtiest look i’ve ever gotten while on my wheel. I’m really starting
> to dislike cars. Thanks for listening and I would love to hear any of your
> stories on the subject. Later, everyone.
>
> Aj
>
> p.s. If you absolutely have to drive a car for everyone’s sake keep an eye out
> for us and STAY OUT OF THE CROSS WALKS!!!
>


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Re: city riding and “Carbon Fiber seats, are they really worth it?”

I ride in the street all the time, and on sidewalks. Cars always seems
to move into the farthest legal lane from me. they probably think i will
fall over and get ran over. which hasn’t happened yet. but if it is a 4
lane, they will move to the outside lane every time. and in cross walks
I always check, because sometimes people are idiots and don’t look.

    The other thing i was wondering is has anyone to this date broken a
    Carbon Fiber seat? I was going to get one for my monty and I was just
    wondering if it was worth getting if it was going to snap. I would asume
    this has not happened but I just wanted to check,

Re: city riding

I haven’t ridden much where there are many crosswalks, but I always try to think
like a jogger. I stay off of busier streets, face traffic on less busy streets
(to maintain eye contact,) and ride defensively (always watching for idiots.)

Sidewalks aren’t a problem here, I use sidewalks almost everywhere I go, and
I’ve found that people on foot always give me the right of way, but as far as
cars go, I don’t trust any of the drivers, I yield to them, crosswalk or not.

Common sense makes sense … I find I have that on occasion. Amy O
amyoftenbirder@home.com I’ve never been reprimanded for anything on my unicycle
before but I was riding my bike backwards once (butt on the handlebars), when a
police officer motioned that I turn around.


“Aj” wrote in message
news:9030-3ABE6663-1852@storefull-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net
>
> Hey People, For all of you city riders out there do you have any trouble with
> cars completely taking over the cross walk areas allocated for pedestrians and
> pedal powered people? The other day I had a car almost run me into traffic
> because I decided to cross in the cross walk even though it was almost
> completely blocked by this car because the sign said I could walk. So as soon
> as I started across the car jerked infront of me to turn right on red, my
> wheel went flying into the cross behind me and I had to catch myself before I
> smashed into his car. Before he drove off he made eye contact with me and gave
> me the dirtiest look i’ve ever gotten while on my wheel. I’m really starting
> to dislike cars. Thanks for listening and I would love to hear any of your
> stories on the subject. Later, everyone.
>
> Aj
>
> p.s. If you absolutely have to drive a car for everyone’s sake keep an eye out
> for us and STAY OUT OF THE CROSS WALKS!!!

Re: city riding and “Carbon Fiber seats, are they really worth it?”

Yes one has broken, it was the original prototype that was slightly different in
design and 2 years older than any other. Carbon fibre deteriorates with time and
I would expect to see breakages with heavy use after may be a couple of years.

Roger


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----- Original Message ----- From: “dingeman” <dingeman@citilink.com> To:
<unicycling@winternet.com> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 4:33 AM Subject: Re:
city riding and “Carbon Fiber seats, are they really worth it?”

> The other thing i was wondering is has anyone to this date broken
a
> Carbon Fiber seat? I was going to get one for my monty and I was just
> wondering if it was worth getting if it was going to snap. I would asume this
> has not happened but I just wanted to check,

Re: city riding

My wife once was hit while slowly crossing a crosswalk on her bike. The driver
was 82 years old, and didn’t see because of the sun. She got into the middle of
the street, and then he took off right at her. She was lucky to only have a
broken ankle.

I think unicycling in the street can be dangerous because drivers are not used
to this. They may have no clue what you might do next, and sometimes drivers get
distracted just watching you since you look unusual. Or, as it sounds like in
your case, they have a close call, and blame it on you simply because you are
doing something unusual in the street.

Legally, I think you are supposed to walk bikes (and unis?) across crosswalks.
Of course I never do this, but I think you should always assume someone will
come flying around the corner in their car and not see you. No matter how much
in the right you may be, it won’t help you when you’re on a uni and they are in
a two ton weapon. Joe

In a message dated 3/25/01 4:49:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jugglerjoe@webtv.net writes:

>
> Hey People, For all of you city riders out there do you have any trouble with
> cars completely taking over the cross walk areas allocated for pedestrians
> and pedal powered people? The other day I had a car almost run me into
> traffic because I decided to cross in the cross walk even though it was
> almost completely blocked by this car because the sign said I could walk. So
> as soon as I started across the car jerked infront of me to turn right on
> red, my wheel went flying into the cross behind me and I had to catch myself
> before I smashed into his car. Before he drove off he made eye contact with
> me and gave me the dirtiest look i’ve ever gotten while on my wheel. I’m
> really starting to dislike cars. Thanks for listening and I would love to
> hear any of your stories on the subject. Later, everyone.
>
> Aj

RE: city riding

> I think unicycling in the street can be dangerous because drivers are not used
> to this.

Yes. And doing anything on the street puts you at the mercy of cars. People
have the windows rolled up, the radio cranked, and they’re talking on the phone.
They certainly are not looking for, or concerned about, YOU. The good drivers
you don’t have to worry about. I’m describing the problem ones.

Then there’s the common driver who makes a mistake, as AJ described, and knows
it, but gives a dirty look instead of an “oops” or apologetic one. No matter. We
all know who was wrong. And the car always wins (except against a truck or
train), so don’t make an issue out of it.

> They may have no clue what you might do next, and sometimes drivers get
> distracted just watching you since you look unusual.

This is true, and there have been many times when I’ve noticed lots of
drivers paying too much attention to me (or the people I’m with) and not
enough to the road. But I can’t think of any examples of accidents that
happened because of this.

> Legally, I think you are supposed to walk bikes (and unis?) across crosswalks.

This may be true, but with infinite variations under local laws. In a crosswalk,
you are in the space reserved for pedestrians. On most sidewalks you are not
supposed to be cycling, and this includes the crosswalk. However there is a big
gray area between street and sidewalk as far as where a unicycle belongs. Part
of this is related to how solid a rider you are. If you’re good, and fast, you
belong in the street (following bicycle rules). If you’re an unstable beginner,
you belong on the sidewalk and not near people! People expect unicycles to
fall down any second, but we don’t want to reinforce that idea by showing them
in-your-face examples of this… :slight_smile:

> but I think you should always assume someone will come flying around the
> corner in their car and not see you. No matter how much in the right you may
> be, it won’t help you when you’re on a uni and they are in a two ton weapon.

Good advice. Don’t play games with physics. Here are some good general rules for
surviving around traffic:

  1. The heavier vehicle always wins
  2. Assume they do not see you
  3. Expect the traffic to make mistakes
  4. Expect doors to open on parked cars
  5. Expect your unicycle to be a distraction
  6. Expect cops to be suspicious of you (especially with lots of
    pedestrians around)
  7. Do not expect to win in court

(On the court thing, in most car-bike accidents the driver is not charged. As a
unicyclist, you have even less legal weight, and are unlikely to succeed. This
is not optimistic information, but I think it’s accurate)

Stay on top, John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone (former driving instructor in New York)

Re: city riding

Hey, Here’s my worst incident: I often ride through our city (Reading, PA) And I
don’t cross any major streets unless there aren’t any cars in sight. Well once I
was riding up to a street and started idling because I saw a car (wait, not any
car; it was a Ford Excursion… they’re huge). Anyway the guy motioned for me to
cross and just as I rode in front of his massive piece of metal he hit the gas
and came inches away from running over me and my unicycle. I know he saw me
because I made eye contact just before he started.

Oh well, Jeff

On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 15:42:59 -0600 (CST) jugglerjoe@webtv.net (Aj) writes:
>
> Hey People, For all of you city riders out there do you have any trouble with
> cars completely taking over the cross walk areas allocated for pedestrians and
> pedal powered people? The other day I had a car almost run me into traffic
> because I decided to cross in the cross walk even though it was almost
> completely blocked by this car because the sign said I could walk. So as soon
> as I started across the car jerked infront of me to turn right on red, my
> wheel went flying into the cross behind me and I had to catch myself before I
> smashed into his car. Before he drove off he made eye contact with me and gave
> me the dirtiest look i’ve ever gotten while on my wheel. I’m really starting
> to dislike cars. Thanks for listening and I would love to hear any of your
> stories on the subject. Later, everyone.
>
> Aj
>
> p.s. If you absolutely have to drive a car for everyone’s sake keep an eye out
> for us and STAY OUT OF THE CROSS WALKS!!!
>
>


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Re: city riding

In article <103.c69ce1.27efc841@aol.com>, <Nycjoe@aol.com> wrote: ) )Legally, I
think you are supposed to walk bikes (and unis?) across )crosswalks. Of course
I never do this, but I think you should always assume )someone will come flying
around the corner in their car and not see you. No )matter how much in the
right you may be, it won’t help you when you’re on a )uni and they are in a two
ton weapon.

Legally, if you’re on the road on a bike, you have all the rights and all the
responsibilities of a vehicle driver (and in some states you may also be
classified as a vehicle). That means that you should ride in the road like any
car would.

If you’re on the sidewalk on a bike, you may be breaking the law, depending on
your locality. It is almost certainly a bad idea to ride a bike on a sidewalk,
at least if it’s a sidewalk with any kind of cross-traffic. Bikes travel way too
fast to safely use sidewalks. Unicycles at jogging pace or below are probably
OK, but a torqued-up Coker is probably not a good thing on a sidewalk.

There is nothing in the California Vehicle Code or the Uniform Vehicle Code in
the US which would suggest that either bikes or unicycles should be walked in
crosswalks. -Tom

Re: RE: city riding

john_foss@asinet.com writes:
>This is true, and there have been many times when I’ve noticed lots of
>drivers paying too much attention to me (or the people I’m with) and not
>enough to the road. But I can’t think of any examples of accidents that
>happened because of this.
Actually, I believe my brother caused a minor fender bender while riding his
Giraffe in NYC years and years ago. I’ll ask him to weigh in on this.

David

Re: city riding

In article <fc.000f4e67004bc0943b9aca002f491c9c.4bc0c7@packer.edu>,
dstone@packer.edu (David Stone) writes:

>john_foss@asinet.com writes:
>>This is true, and there have been many times when I’ve noticed lots of
>>drivers paying too much attention to me (or the people I’m with) and not
>>enough to the road. But I can’t think of any examples of accidents that
>>happened because of this.
>Actually, I believe my brother caused a minor fender bender while riding his
>Giraffe in NYC years and years ago. I’ll ask him to weigh in on this.
>

13 or 14 years ago I was riding my Schwinn Giraffe along a bike path, drivers on
the nearby road were watching me instead of the traffic light. The light turned
red, I heard a loud squeeling and looked just in time to see and hear a really
nice crunch of the cars next to me on the road. That was a really trusty
giraffe, he didnt even flinch. He’s dead now, his neck cracked and he had to be
shot. I had him stuffed and he is now mounted on my wall.

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