29 wheel lacing 3 leading 3 trailing

I’m getting a new 29 wheel and i was thinking in building it with fancy lacing such as the 3 leading 3 trailing.
I was wondering if this type of lacing is tough enough? and if not, what lacing is used?

I’m usig my Schlumpf hub :smiley:

Thanks

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3x3 is probably the most practical novelty lacing pattern around and will build quite a strong wheel.

The only issue I have with it is you should really keep using the lacing pattern for the life of your hub since the spokes make little dents in the flange where they come out of the spoke holes. If these dents are not lined up with your spokes they will be stress risers and weaken the hub flanges.

If it has already been built up using standard lacing I would once again build it with standard lacing. If it is a virgin hub then I don’t see any reason why not.

Another option is to use the traditional pattern and two or three colors of spokes, Similar to what I did to my new trials wheel last fall.

nice one Max!

thanks guys! I’ll check my Schlumpf hub once i get it from my 24 wheel. I was planning to use black spokes and just two red ones going to the tube valve.

That wheel look great !

Ive found some instructions on how to lace a wheel 3 leading 3 trailing. Im thinking of trying to practice it on an old bike wheel with a screwed hub anyway but i might just try to build a regular lacing patern first.

http://www.baldurdash.org/OtherStuff/3leading3trailing.html

I didn’t realize that this would be your first wheel build. In that case I would just build it with a standard spoke pattern. Add a few colored spokes like Max did, I think that would look awesome when you are geared up and it is moving at a different speed compared to your feet.

im a different person to him. im just gonna find an old bike wheel and practice lacing

Oh, sorry about that.

I did that to my bike a while ago. It looked pretty cool but it is not as noticeable as you would think, I guess most people don’t spend a lot of time looking at peoples spoke patterns. :stuck_out_tongue:

Both bike wheels are standard lacing now though. Replaced the spokes and rim on the rear when it tacoed (not the fault of the wheelbuild but of having 4 people on the back of a cargo bike with a single walled cheapo rim) and replaced the front wheel after I noticed that my fork was cracked and decided to upgrade to disk brakes.

I think I might experiment with twisted lacing again this summer but it really is not a practical pattern for unicycles unlike 3x3 (or 4x4 for a 48h 4x wheel)

Hi Eric,
it would be my second wheel. The first one was KH 24 with Schlumpf hub. I went okay. My only concern and still is the spokes tension as I do not have that tool nor the truing stand. I’m getting both.

Hey Catch1 excellent link - many thanks!

What would be the spokes tension for the 29 and 24? :thinking:

Cheers

I’ve done this before and it looks good although would look better with 3 different colours of spokes (for each set).

You want slightly varying length spokes (or nipples) and I was never 100% happy with the build on my 20" but the 700c was OK on the 2nd try with a new set of spokes (the UDC spoke calculator won’t give the correct lengths). truing is much tougher than 3-cross but strength is similar. You won’t get the same tension in all the spokes and have a true wheel.

If it was anything other than a Schlumpf I would say go for it. However, I would go for a 3-cross in this situation.

Don’t waste money on a truing stand you already have one - the frame!

Good luck!

The Art of Wheelbuilding

May I recommend that you go to the library and check out “The Art of Wheelbuilding” prior to such an ambitious project. Now that you have a some experience, it will help with understanding the concepts of patterns and how strength is acheived in spoked wheels.

Thanks, indeed it is what i used on my first wheel but it was tough and time consuming. I learned a lot though.

I think you are right, I’ll go with normal 3 crossing with the 29 and maybe 3x3 when rebuilding the 24

I’ll also read the “Art of Wheelbuilding”

Cheers