Just wanted to tell all you people out there that still buy CD’s that if you go to www.yourmusic.com you can buy any CD’s they have for $5.99 which includes shipping and handling! It’s a great deal and they have tons of good bands. Check it out. The only catch is that you have to sign up to recieve one CD a month for $5.99 BUT you can cancel at anytime so if you only want to get a couple, buy them and cancel. You can buy as many CD’s as you want but have to at least buy one a month. Let me know what you guys think. I think it’s a great site and already have CD’s in my queue for the next year in a half! I’ve been a member for a few months already…
well, since we’re already spamming, www.mp3search.ru can get you songs for $0.10 a song and gives a discount for buying cd’s. i’ll check our yourmusic though, i’m always open to new ways to pay for my pirated music. lol
bmg does that too, my moms a member, but there its like one 20 dollar cd, then the rest are like really cheap, like 99 cents
I wasn’t trying to Spam, just stating what I liked and think other people might like to try. Thanks for the info on downloading songs but I’m not quite up to date with that yet, but hope to be sooner or later. Really want to buy an 60 GB video ipod within the next year, but think I’ll buy a trials uni first…
Buying from those Russian sites like mp3search.ru and allofmp3.com are just ways to pirate music with a less guilty conscience. If you buy the music of an american artist from those sites the artist or their label does not get any money. You aren’t helping the artist by buying from those sites.
Those sites are legal within Russia. They are of questionable legality if you live outside of Russia.
Ya but don’t popular musicians make enough money the way it is? Just trying to point out that the big ones make way too much money so I think it’s OK as long as it’s a mainstream artist… Just my 2 Cents! 
is stealing an ipod okay, just cause steve is rich?
no!
please, when i’m downloading music for cheap or free my conscience doesn’t even enter the picture, especially when the song is about spinning rims and gold watches and teeth. i’m sorry brittney could only afford the boeing 737 instead of the 747. oh, and i wasn’t accusing you of spamming uni####, what i meant was “shameless plug.” i just meant that i wouldn’t be advertising not uni stuff if it weren’t appropriate to the thread. no offense intended. if the labels are so hard up for cash that they have to sue 9 year old girls and threaten colleges, maybe they should find other ways to increase profit like lowering the cost of a cd to the $7-$15 range or improving their concerts and tours. i’ve seen the show cribs on MTV and i just don’t care if i steal $25 from their pockets, heck, if i lived close enough, i’ld take their newspapers every morning too. but i would definatly still use napster if it were around. “big pimpin’ spending gees.” <- lol, big bandwidth spendin’ ten cents to get your songs, whose the pimp daddy now beach. (offence intended on that though, lol)
edit: i do buy concert tickets though, the artists i like get my money through those venues. if they can convince me that they are worth going to see, THEN i give them my money, i don’t buy a cd just to see if the band’s other songs are any good
Theres this great program Limewire, that allows you to download music totally free, I do it all the time!
I just started using Limewire…I use soulseek more often though.
I don’t think you can really spam on JC if you’re the thread-starter.
Yes, I was a member of BMG back in the 80s. It was called the Columbia Record Club back then. A great deal to start, but then the annoyance of having to buy albums when the mailers came, or being charged for one anyway. Once I’d bought the initial batch, they didn’t have much I was interested in.
Until I can download CD-quality music for the same price as CDs (or less of course), I’ll mostly stick with the CDs.
If you’re going to “buy” music online, you really should buy it from someone who isn’t a pirate. Why pay pirates?
Oooh, I hate those comparisons. Have you seen that pirating comercial they put on dvds now? It compares stealing a car with pirating dvds. IT’S NOT THE SAME THING!!
If you steal a car, the person who previously owned the car no longer has one. That person has lost a valuable possesion.
If you copy a cd, nobody has lost anything. Britney Spears still has her 737. The only thing that is lost is the potential to make money off of a cd, which wouldn’t have been sold in the first place because it costs 20 flippin’ dollars! 
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edit: As a side note, I don’t download music or feature movies online. I do however copy my own cd’s to my computer for ease of playablity.
Very true. Copyright infringement (downloading music or sharing CDs with your friends so they can copy them) is a civil matter and not criminal. Stealing or shoplifting an iPod is a criminal matter. Very different to a point. There is a point where copyright infringement does become criminal but you have to go big scale and profit from it (selling pirated DVDs and CDs on the street corner or flea market will likely get you in criminal trouble).
Many, if not all, of the educational campaigns to get people to stop pirating software or music attempt to blur the distinction between copyright infringement and criminal stealing. It amounts to a disinformation campaign. That irks me too. Rewriting reality to get your point across makes you not trustworthy in my book and hurts your cause.
Copyright infringement involves things like photocopying a book to avoid buying it. Most people know that’s not the same as stealing. You’re not going to face criminal charges for that. But for some reason when it comes to software and digital music people think things change and believe it’s criminal.
either way its still wrong
Yes, but they’re different kinds of wrong in the legal sense.
An educational campaign that tries to equate copying a song or software to shoplifting is not being legally honest. When you have an educational campaign about legal issues you need to be accurate and honest about the law. A lawyer would never equate personal copyright infringement with stealing or shoplifting. They’re not the same thing and law is very particular about differences like that.
I work in the software industry. Copyright infringement of software affects me. I could end up working for a company like Microsoft or Adobe. All of the people here talking about using Microsoft or Adobe warez would be on my evil list. But I’m still not going to equate copying software with stealing unless you do it on a big scale and sell the pirated software. Same would go for digital music files.
Think about this also:
Downloading free music (illegally or legally) actually HELPS a lot of small and new bands to get noticed and in a way it starts the process of helping them get started and start making money. So if you want to look at it on one side of the fence by “stealing/sharing” you are actually helping bands by giving them publicity which leads to money, so it’s kinda like you gave them money!
And the bands that don’t need help because they are already big, well F them cause they are already living the life and making a ton more money than any of us and probably having more fun doing it. I don’t feel one bit sorry for stealing from the rich and giving to the poor…
So where do you draw the line then? How do you measure?
Oh, you don’t. It’s okay (in your mind) to download from startup bands because it helps get them played, and it’s okay to download from established bands because they’re already rich. Obviously they didn’t get rich with any help from you. Is there an in-between place where you respect copyrights?
And is being “the poor” an acceptable excuse for not buying music? How poor?
since no one (I was waiting for it, Johnfoss) has said it:
Define mainstream
http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48299
Sorry for doing this to ya all the time habby…but your threads are just so good for these examples
Any band making over lets so around $100,000/person per year. Just a rough estimate of my opinion on what is mainstream. You could also go by number of CD’s but I don’t know the numbers on that…Basically mainstream to me is any band that “makes it” in the music buisness and is doing pretty well.