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Check out this site- you have bad taste in music
Watch the vids- they are hilarious heres my favorite- Train

SEEN IT.

I like Adema…:frowning:

yes, OTN, yes…
thats the only one i haven’t watched.

I think I saw it before I joined OTN.

That was great- I loved the part where the guy got all in his face- as if it would be a really good idea to commit an assault in the middle of a busy sidewalk while on video-

-because somebody insulted your favorite band, TRAIN.

/songs that use the terms “tae-bo” and “soy latte” do not a timeless rock band make

There was a time not so long ago in this country when discourse was permitted and in some places even encouraged in public spaces. New York City parks were one such place where political, social, and religious debate and discussion took place. There were many such locales throughout the country.

Now if you’re not shopping or minding your own business you are pretty much suspect.

I don’t think much of what this guy has to say but I do applaud him for trying to make public spaces places for open discourse.

Yes, I was disturbed by the Nickelback video that showed the police telling him to leave. :frowning:

Soon we’re only going to have free speech only as long as what you say doesn’t make anyone uncomfortable. Free sanitized speech.

I didn’t watch the nickelback video- BUT- I do know that the Supreme Court has affirmed that Free Speech can be restricted when a speaker has a “hostile audience” that might cause a breach of the peace. However, it has to be “likely to produce a clear and present danger of a serious substantive evil that rises far above public inconvenience, annoyance, or unrest.” (Terminiello v. Chicago) That was in 1949. In order to be proscribed from his speech under the Constitution as the Court has defined it, this guy would have to be inciting a mob to riot, or making other statements that rise way above what he’s doing.

After taking a year of Constitutional Law, I think that all police officers ought to have to take it as well. There is so much crap that can be avoided (like litigation by the ACLU) if you just understand what the Constitution allows and what it does not allow.

The situation is not good for the First Amendment. There have been all sorts of surveys showing that people in general don’t understand what the First Amendment protects. Worse, people believe that the First Amendment goes too far in its protections. Here’s a recent survey of high school kids: First Amendment no big deal, students say. More than 1/3 of the students surveyed said the First Amendment goes too far.

Kids are obviously not learning about the First Amendment as part of civics or social studies any longer. I think that books like Free Speech for Me - But Not for Thee by Nat Hentoff and other books about censorship and the First Amendment should be required reading for anyone submitting a college application. Of particular focus should be the chapters about speech codes and PC codes on college campuses.

Yeah, we talked about that study in my Con Law class this semester- the scariest part was later in the class, we got talking about some other free speech stuff, and there were a few people in the class really advocating proscibing speech in a couple of ways that fall within the protections of the first amendment. I can’t remember exactly what we were talking about that day, but what was really surprising was that they were some of the most politically liberal people in my class.

It was even scarieir when we got to the various FCC cases- there were people saying that the FCC doesn’t go far enough- there was one guy in my class who told us about how he uses the V-chip on his own TV at home. The kicker- he lives alone- we have a full grown man in my class who so abhors using the on/off switch on his TV that he has blocked himself out from watching bad stuff on cable!

haha that was awesome that guy has a lot of balls to do that infront of all those people, i liked when he was at the story of the year and he got all excited and then just brought them down… haha

Chase

That was pretty funny. I liked how he did the Hoobastank one, that was pretty cool. Except I like hoobastank…):

Right on, John.

You had to spoil it. The book is subtiltled, “How the American Left and Right Relentlessly Censor Each Other”, after all.

I should have put that last line on its own with a big smiley at the end. It was meant as a little dig at the PC culture and the irony of requiring students to read that book as part of their college application.

You cannot read Hentoff’s book as a hard core conservative and only read the sections about the left doing the censoring. Just like you cannot read the book as a hard core liberal and only read the sections about the right doing the censoring. You would completely miss the entire point of the book.

I have Hentoff’s book on my bookshelf along with Sex, Sin, and Blasphemy by Marjorie Heins and a signed copy of Out of Tune: Listening to the First Amendment by John Frohnmayer (I went to listen to him speak) and a little file folder of newspaper clippings and pamphlets about the First Amendment. I’m not one to pick sides about the First Amendment. It’s just as damaging when the political side I identify with tries to censor as when the other side tries to censor. Heins’ book is one sided and focuses on the right’s desire to censor what they consider distasteful or obscene. Hentoff’s book is much better book because it skewers both sides and gets you to think more no matter what your political leaning.

But I do enjoy reading about liberals advocating censorship because they’re supposed to be the open minded party. :slight_smile:

I need to read the books again. It’s been almost 10 years since I’ve read them all cover to cover. A refresher course. :slight_smile: