why are some muslims unhappy?

I had a job as a dishwasher-night cleanup guy when I was 16, in 1974. Two Saudi muslim guys worked with me, Mohamed, and Naji. Muslims aren’t supposed to drink , and Naji wouldn’t touch the stuff, but me and Mohamed hit the coke tap and experimented with various booze from the top shelf as soon as we were alone. Hey, it was a 2 $/hr job, but the free food was great and well, no one mentioned the booze, and we were great cleaners.

They showed me pictures of their wives, back home. They can’t even smile for a picture. Sad looking girls.

So anyway, Mohamed starts telling about this time after he left here pretty trashed (this was whiskey and lime night), and he hired a hooker. To his amazement, the slit on her pussy went up and down. He looked at me as if I could provide some insight to this puzzle,but to me it was just like, did she have tits to? I mean, I was a 16 year old virgin, but even I knew they all go up and down.

But then Naji and Mohamed both insisted that the pussy slits on their wives went side to side, not up and down like american girls. I thought it was a funny joke, me and Mohamed had been drinking. Yet Naji had a straight face.

Turns out, I was later to learn of the sad practice of cutting off the fun parts of girls genitals when they are 4. Naji didn’t know why his wife and him were sad. But her pussy slit, post clitorectomy, did look side to side.

I have an attachment that inspired this post, but it was to large to fit (Gilby!), but basically, it listed all the countries that muslims were unhappy in, basically all the sharia ruled states. Muslims are only happy in counties that aren’t ruled by muslims. They party in the states and love our vertical slit hookers.

Female genital cutting is practiced by Muslims and non-Muslims alike. There is no basis for it in Muslim religious doctrine. It is a tribal custom that preceded the advent of Islam.

It should be stopped.

I have lived for a long time in two muslim countries where this practice is unheard of.

I lived in a country where it was practiced.

The little girls would be dressed up in cute dresses, paraded through town, then out into the woods where they were mutilated.

Often the surgery was not sanitary, infections were common, some girls died as a result of the surgery.

The custom evolved from the same place as the chastity belt, but in this case the purpose is to permanently remove “sexual stimulation” from procreation.

It should be abolished and it seems to be less common than it was years ago.

I don’t think the OP’s premise is accurate, sexual stimulation is not the sole basis for happiness and not all Muslims practice genital muilation; in all liklihood, most do not.

There is more to happiness than culture and religion, consider the possibility that happiness could also be linked to access to nutrition, health care, education, freedom of expression, etc…

I once got into a discussion of marriage with an African coworker, he was curious about the concept of romance and marriage. For him, marriage served a practical purpose, to procreate, create a household that provided for a family, etc… the idea of romance really didn’t factor in to the decision making, though it could result in time.

Don’t romantisize sex, it’s just a thing, it doesn’t last long, and unlike trust and respect, it fades with age.

I am sure there are plenty of Muslims who are happy, perhaps the measure of happiness is not accurate, ie culturally biased? All the Muslims I know now or knew in the past were no more or less happy than the non-Muslims I know now or knew in the past.

Ben reminds us that there might be room for reason and thoughtful responses here in Non-Unicycle Discussion.

Thank Ben!

It reminds me of the TAB (temporarily able-bodied) vs. persons-with-disability discussion. Neither is more happy than the other on average.

Men who lose their penises as a result of cancer or traumatic injury are not NECESSARILY unhappy forever. A good number of people with penises don’t really get much from it, anyway. The military counts loss of penis as NO disability, whereas each limb is 25% disability.

I am totally agreed with billy

We got all sorts of threads and replys here and the nature of the thread can be pulled in either direction by the various responses of other posters and the OP.

So far this one was pretty reasonable and thoughtful despite its title and the content of the first post.
A story about two muslim immigrants/expats and their wifes.
A seemingly unrelated attachment that should prove (somehow) that muslims are unhappy in muslim ruled (sharia) countries but happy in other countries.
Nothing about how happiness was measured, who and how many have been asked etc.

I’m curios what the OPs reaction will be.

Greetings

Byc

Nothing untill someone climbs on his high horses, most probably.
There’s nothing worse for a troll than seing people debate seriously about your provocations.

Let’s see if this resizing software works

Now it should be smaller than 800x800.

I am not trying to muslim bash

For the record, I am non religious, and will not preach doctrines now.

Just a theory, but in my own life, hanging around with happy girls makes me feel better. And orgasmic sex, among other things, is important to make woman happy. So cultures that suppress female sexual happiness , will be less fulfilled in their lives. Perhaps even get angry at sexy cultures, spit and call them “dingha”.

That was the word my friends Mohamed and Naji used to describe American woman. It translates to “dangerous and dirty that will offend Allah”. These guys were my friends, so this was their honest feelings. They were trying to help me.

There are many joyous celibate woman.

Ouch

Hate to be the one to break this to you Billy, we all love you here, you are great.

Woman will lie to you because they love you and don’t want to hurt your feelings. If you have sex with them and it sucked, they will say it was joyous. Like “god help me, this is fun”? Oh joy.

Nothing wrong with sleeping with girls and not having sex. Cuddling with no sex is better than bad sex anyday, plus tomorrow may bring a brighter day.

I would define bad sex as the guy gets off, the girl doesn’t, and then they hug and she says it was joyous. It was real, it was fun. But it wasn’t real fun, at least not for her. Oh joy.

That is not what celibate means.

Don’t go all dictionary on me

I know what celibate means.

My point was cultures where woman would rather sleep alone are losing out on happiness. Muslim or not. I don’t believe celibate people have as much fun as couples in love that have figured out how to rock the bed to their mutual satisfaction. Religion is a lonely substitute, a sad one at best, any religion.

It just seems muslims in some countries put more effort into ruining others sex lives than is the norm here in USA. Cut off their clits when they are 4, and ergo, a country full of sad girls and angry frustrated guys, without a clue as to why.

They do a lot of mean medical experiments on monkeys. Just to piss off PETA, I propose an experiment where they cut off some monkeys genitals and then put them together in the same house. Then see if they throw any more shit than Arabs.

As Dave so eloquently said to FTL:

+1

Wow, I am disappointed in you Billy

Just given up have we? You are usually so much more articulate. Perhaps even clever sometimes.

I must have hit a nerve. You aren’t seeing her O face, and you have had that pointed out to you by the ugliest guy on the forum. I feel for you, but let’s not pick on me just because I have a small dick that only knows 2 moves, in and out.

Often that won’t work for the girl. As men, it works for us, so it is natural for ignorant men to think there is no fucking problem.

My first great girl friend loved when I played with her, but it left her frustrated. After a few weeks of this, she looked at me kinda embarrassed, and while I lay on my back, she started to hump my upper thigh. This was fun for me to watch, what with the smile growing on her face, and watching the tits flopping . Then I got to see her O face. Awesome. And all I had to do was lie on my back and enjoy the show.

She seemed real embarrassed, but I told her I wanted to do that every day, because it was so pretty to watch. And so we did. Really brought us to the next level of happiness, and we were together for about a year. Never did meet another girl that wanted to rub her puss on my leg though. Hell, I have never even seen that in porn.

My point Billy, is that each girl is like a special lock. If you love her and want to keep her, make her happy. That means doing what it takes to see her O face. They are all different, and being a dick is often not the key.

Not that these girls didn’t like watching me get off, they did, but it was sorta like playing with tits was for me, a lot of fun, but just a tease.

I’d go out on a limb and say that young children can be some of the happiest and free’est humans on the planet.

And they don’t compare bed post notches.

This thread is a pathetic example of what becomes of an average guy who’s had too much acid in his life and tries to build racist theories to sooth his frustrations and strengthen his convictions.

Keep jerking off OP, just do it in private will you, no one’s interested.

please help me

I would so love to do better with some of the pretty black girls in my neighborhood. What about my posts seems racist ? Help me out here. I am not even prejudiced against ugly girls, I just don’t want to date them. But some of these black girls look great to me.

Thieum, I think this thread is the perfect one for people who want to talk RUGBY!!
I hope it’s gonna live till next 6 nations tournament, the last thread on the topic starts to get worn out.