“Health Food” stores promote so many health frauds.
Modern science increased the lifespan in industrialized nations, but all the health frauds have not.
How is it that “scientists” like Lionel Whats-his-name can push Mega-vitamins without any scientific basis.
Next time your at the health food store, tell them your looking for something for a friend with cancer, and they’ll give you several health fraudulent products. I’ll bet on it.
Were you looking for an argument or just to bestow your wisdom on us?
Do you mean health food, as in organic nuts, beans and brown rice, or are you talking about the vitamin supplement stores in the mall?
organic nuts, beans and brown rice have been around since the beginning of time. they are not promoted as cures for anything.
I’m talking about “health food” sections of malls, even grocery stores and pharmacies have them now, with a person there you can discuss your health problem with, and they’ll pull something off the shelf to sell you for what ails you.
Sounds alot like the God business you so frequently promote. 
Glad you put that winkie in there, or people would think you were serious!
Or was that a sideways comment at the “scientific” people who can’t tell fact from snake oil?
Natural cures that “they” don’t want you to know about? 
Edit: Kevin Trudeau was a used car salesman convicted of some level of fraud before he later wrote this book containing natural cures to cancer that “they” don’t want you to know about. He was simultaneously being brought up on charges for the fradulent claims his book made as he was selling millions of copies on TV…
Sorry, let’s try this:
Sounds alot like the God business you so frequently promote.
You misunderstand me if you think I’m promoting any God business. That sounds like something churches (even UU), temples, etc, do. Mystics are a bit more independent, and not promoters, so far as I can see.
I am searching, and sharing my thoughts and confusion, and debating to test my own ideas and learn more. I’m sure in doing so I could have easliy given the wrong impression. But I’m certain no bad consequences will ensue, either way.
Not something I recommend when a cancer patient walks into a health food store. When bad consequences CAN and DO ensue.
Cures? You’re looking for cures? Good luck with that. Our health care system is set up for long term costly treatments, not cures.
This is so true. A private drug company makes infinitely more money treating a disease like, say diabetes, than curing it. It’s an immeasurably big dis-incentive for them to create cures for anything that they make money “treating”. This is a huge reason for one-payer (i.e. govt run) system.
Oh no, don’t go there. That’s a treatment instead of a cure. The cure is to drop the patent system and set up a system where your health insurance is rewarded for your good long term health.
Whether the ins. was private or public, they would have incentive to cure diseases, not just treat them.
Plus I knew I’d getcha with that comment!
Billy - sorry to get off-topic on your ass.
A one-payer run system, otherwise known as a government monopoly, has little incentive to make progress. Make it a private system, whether government funded or not, and you get many companies competing to make the cures in the cheapest and most effective way possible.
Or they spend twice as much on advertising as they do R&D (Pfzier) developing phrases like ED and skewing the focus of medical research towards topical middle class afflictions (Erectile Dysfunction?)-- Chagras disease, AIDS, water quality, there are many health issues that won’t be addressed in any effective capacity by private entities unless they are drenched in gov’t subsidies, public-private “reaching around your ass to scratch your elbow”, arrangements.
Free markets don’t distribute flu shots reasonably.
Hey Billy/JJuggle, alternate personalities, “the twins”, sorry for the threadjack.
But my bouquet of flowers could use some help with ED. You have to remember that spending money on marketing is not taking away from R&D spending. The company is simply doing what they need to maximize the profit on their successful product that they have a government enforced monopoly on. This does not take away from R&D in other areas as they can get the funding for marketing efforts based on expected future revenue on it.
How so? Too bad a free-market has not been tried to prove or disprove this specific issue. Our health care system is far from a free market to make a claim that current failures are because of a free market system.
Do you mean products like ativmel saying stuff like a bottel a-day will improve you energy level or improve your brain power? 
Definitely!
and the “natural antidepressants” and lots of other “natural” stuff.
Stevyo! Hey dude, it’s all good. I never go off topic or threadjack, but you’re my man, and I trust you’ll take me someplace good!
Gilby,
IF God forbid anyone you know gets cancer or high blood pressure or a life threatening depression, I’m praying you don’t send them to the health fraud store for some snake oil. You’re really much too sensible for that. Don’t try to carry this too far, the children are listening.
You as well eat healthaly that wast your money on that stuff in my opinion