Which Foot?

At York over the weekend I’ve been teaching Catherine (my fiancée) to ride -
with a bit more success than I expected.

I was surprised to find that she, like me, finds it more comfortable to mount
left foot first (we’re both right handed). She pointed out later that, also like
me, she tends always to put on her left sock first, and her left shoe, and her
left trouser leg. I wondered if there might be a general rule here.

So, do right footed unicyclists tend to put their right socks on first? More
importantly, is there anybody who doesn’t mount using the same foot that they
usually clothe first? If there is a general rule here, it could prove
extremely useful when teaching complete beginners.


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Re: Which Foot?

Danny and Everyone,

>to mount left foot first (we’re both right handed). She pointed out later
>that, also like me, she tends always to put on her left sock first, and her
>left shoe, and her left trouser leg. I wondered if there might be a general
>rule here.

>So, do right footed unicyclists tend to put their right socks on >first? More
>importantly, is there anybody who doesn’t mount using the same >foot that they
>usually clothe first? If there is a general rule here, it could prove
>extremely useful when teaching complete beginners.

Hm, I hate to bust a hole in your theory, but here it goes!

I’m right-handed and also right-footed (with most uni things … sometimes I go
a little off though. I can only one foot wheel walk with my left foot). But onto
the topic of dressing: I almost always dress with my left foot first. But this
still kind of holds to the theory, because it’s like I prefer to balance on my
right foot! You see? :slight_smile:

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RE: Which Foot?

> So, do right footed unicyclists tend to put their right socks on first? More
> importantly, is there anybody who doesn’t mount using the same foot that they
> usually clothe first? If there is a general rule here, it could prove
> extremely useful when teaching complete beginners.

I thought about it, and I’m not even sure which side I put on first. I like to
think of myself as flexible enough to be able to start with either foot. But I’m
definitely right/right dominant.

We had a discussion about this maybe a year or more ago, which is your dominant
foot, and does it relate to your dominant hand? Our results were inconclusive,
because we had a hard time defining what is your dominant foot (outside of
unicycling). So whereas many people were right/right, I think at least an equal
number were right hand/left foot.

I think beginners will automatically figure out which is their dominant foot as
they learn to ride. Most beginners will bang the wheel on the ground half a
dozen times to get the pedal they want into position for mounting.

John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone http://www.unicycling.com

“I’m not into pain. I’m into juggling.” - A grandpa with small child at the
Davis Picnic Day, walking away from the free unicycle lessons toward the free
juggling lessons (and already able to juggle!)

RE: Which Foot?

For people learning to ride who want to do trials unicycling, it is a great idea
to be ambidextrous with which foot you start with.

For the majority of people who have a dominant foot (definately me!), it is
advantageous to mount with the same foot back as you have back when hopping.
This way you can mount in an awkward spot and immediately start hopping without
having to roll 1/2 turn.

-Kris.

— John Foss <john_foss@asinet.com> wrote:
> > So, do right footed unicyclists tend to put their
> right socks
> > on first? More importantly, is there anybody who
> doesn’t mount
> > using the same foot that they usually clothe
> first? If there
> > is a general rule here, it could prove extremely
> useful when
> > teaching complete beginners.
>
> I thought about it, and I’m not even sure which side I put on first. I like to
> think of myself as flexible enough to be able to start with either foot. But
> I’m definitely right/right dominant.
>
> We had a discussion about this maybe a year or more ago, which is your
> dominant foot, and does it relate to your dominant hand? Our results were
> inconclusive, because we had a hard time defining what is your dominant foot
> (outside of unicycling). So whereas many people were right/right, I think at
> least an equal number were right hand/left foot.
>
> I think beginners will automatically figure out which is their dominant foot
> as they learn to ride. Most beginners will bang the wheel on the ground half a
> dozen times to get the pedal they want into position for mounting.
>
> John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone http://www.unicycling.com
>
> “I’m not into pain. I’m into juggling.” - A grandpa with small child at the
> Davis Picnic Day, walking away from the free unicycle lessons toward the free
> juggling lessons (and already able to juggle!)
>


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RE: Which Foot?

> (counterclockwise). It could due to a slight (and otherwise unnoticeable) lack
> of symmetry that makes it easier to be on one side or the other.

There is a distinct lack of symmetry in the brain. Not to say that the brain is
lopsided, but the vast majority of people have a dominant side. This is well
documented in connection with dominant hands, but we don’t seem to know how it
relates to feet. Like most people, my left brain is the dominant side, making me
right handed. But for some reason, many of those left-brained people are using
their left foot on the unicycle.

I can mount and ride with either foot, but far as I remember I naturally
gravitated toward using my right foot first, mounting with my right foot, and
doing all hopping skills with my right foot back. Also my strong turning and
spinning direction is to the right, even going backwards. In other words, my
backward spins are counter clockwise, me still turning toward the right side
of my body.

All that said, three rightys don’t make a lefty…

jf

RE: Which Foot?

> For racing, holding the seat with the right hand gives you a disadvantage when
> going around the corner since you have to push the seat instead of pull it to
> help you turn. I haven’t tried it, but I think that I’d do a lot better on the
> long races if the race was done going the other way around the track.

It might be real hard to get everyone else to go around the track that way. How
about just holding the seat with your other hand? :slight_smile:

But I don’t agree with your theory. I hold the seat with my left hand (leaving
my dominant hand free for waving about to help balance). When going around the
curve of the track, my right hand has to cross over the centerline of the
unicycle as I twist my body to the left. This is more true on tartan tracks, and
really noticeable on 200 meter tracks.

With the left hand free it seems that you could just stick that arm more out to
the side, or maybe straight behind you, for the same effect. But I haven’t
really tried it and compared.

John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone http://www.unicycling.com

“I’m not into pain. I’m into juggling.” - A grandpa with small child at the
Davis Picnic Day, walking away from the free unicycle lessons toward the free
juggling lessons (and already able to juggle!)

Re: Which Foot?

> I was surprised to find that she, like me, finds it more comfortable to mount
> left foot first (we’re both right handed). She pointed out later that, also
> like me, she tends always to put on her left sock first, and her left shoe,
> and her left trouser leg. I wondered if there might be a general rule here.
>
> So, do right footed unicyclists tend to put their right socks on first? More
> importantly, is there anybody who doesn’t mount using the same foot that they
> usually clothe first? If there is a general rule here, it
could
> prove extremely useful when teaching complete beginners.

I, too, am a righty who mounts with my left foot, and puts my left leg into my
pants first, and puts on my left sock first. My lord, call Ripley!

Jake Cooper

Re: Which Foot?

Mr Red wrote:

> At York over the weekend I’ve been teaching Catherine (my fiancée) to
ride -
> with a bit more success than I expected.
>
> I was surprised to find that she, like me, finds it more comfortable to mount
> left foot first (we’re both right handed). She pointed out later that, also
> like me, she tends always to put on her left sock first, and her left shoe,
> and her left trouser leg. I wondered if there might be a general rule here.
>
> So, do right footed unicyclists tend to put their right socks on first? More
> importantly, is there anybody who doesn’t mount using the same foot that they
> usually clothe first? If there is a general rule here, it
could
> prove extremely useful when teaching complete beginners.

Danny,

Great seeing you at BJC, great wasn’t it! anyway…

A related foot issue was looked at a few years ago. I have found the concluding
email. Sorry it is not very conclusive but is interesting.

Roger



Ok was my friends feeling right about unicyclist being prominently left handed?

Right Handed 69

left 11

Ambidextrous 6

South Paw (I don’t understand it either?) 1

I guess this does not show that much really, although there is a lot higher
number of Ambidextrous than people than expected and less left handed than is
norm. For those who asked whether my friend was right or left handed, she is a
juggler and is right handed.


Here is a synopsis of general comments:

… my left hand is probably stronger than it was due to juggling

Mostly right, but nearly ambidextrous now that I have been juggling for a
long time.

I’d like to know height and weight and see how they correlate with skill level.
Also I wonder about the distribution of general skill.

it would be interesting, since you are going to get lots of messages from
various people, to ask them their profession and age, perhaps

I am right-handed. I don’t like the stereotype that only left-handed people do
interesting and creative things (like paint or ride a uni) because I consider
myself creative. :slight_smile: However, my dad is left-handed and can juggle and is
learning to ride a uni.

There is, if I remember right, an association between left-handedness and
professional baseball playing–about twice the rate in ballplayers than in the
general population, or something like that.


Handedness to dominant foot: About a third of the people responded with what
their dominant foot is. I have not collated the result because it is obvious
that people categorised what is people dominant foot differently. There is
definitely quite a few people who are left footed but right handed. I have been
trying to talk to my agronomist consultant friend to ask how common this is but
he is away at the moment; so I will post his comments when I get in touch with
him. At the juggling club last Tuesday we were discussing this and Peggy tested
to see if I was left or right footed. She sneaked up behind me and pushed me
over: the foot I put forward she claimed would be my true “handed” foot. It is
clear that people put either their dominant or non-dominant on the pedal to
start and that the dominant foot is not necessary their true “handed” foot. My
theory on this is that it depends on how people first learn to mount either
a) ride backwards 90deg before they go forwards.
b) ride forwards straight away. I have no evidence to prove this though.

Here are some of the comments about dominant foot:

Which is your dominant foot? I’m curious to know if most people are dominant on
the same side as their dominant hand, or opposite. Your dominant foot is the one
you mount with, going on the pedal first.

But what about favourite foot? I idle with left foot down for reference, but
kick a ball with my right foot. Sarah however uses the right for both - can’t
tell you about her handedness really tho’ I think it is right.

> Your dominant foot is the one you mount with, going on the pedal first.
Not for everyone. I always put my non-dominant (submissive?) foot on the pedal
so that my dominant foot lands on the forward pedal and I’m ready to go. The
wheel (and pedals) don’t move - none of this “move the wheel backwards to bring
the pedal up” malarky.

Re: Which Foot?

Danny Colyer wrote:
> At York over the weekend I’ve been teaching Catherine (my fiancée) to ride
> - with a bit more success than I expected.
>
> I was surprised to find that she, like me, finds it more comfortable to mount
> left foot first (we’re both right handed). She pointed out later that, also
> like me, she tends always to put on her left sock first, and her left shoe,
> and her left trouser leg. I wondered if there might be a general rule here.
>
> So, do right footed unicyclists tend to put their right socks on first? More
> importantly, is there anybody who doesn’t mount using the same foot that they
> usually clothe first? If there is a general rule here, it could prove
> extremely useful when teaching complete beginners.

I’m right handed, and do most things with my right foot first: climbing stairs,
putting on clothes, etc. However, I’m useless at mounting my unicycle with my
right foot, although I can idle a bit on that side, whereas I have no problems
mounting or idling with my left foot.

I jump better with my right foot forward, but I’m not sure which way that
counts, as it’s the left leg doing most of the work.


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Re: Which Foot?

I am right handed but mount with my left. I put my pants on two legs at a time
and vaary with socks. “Danny Colyer” <danny@speedy5.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
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> At York over the weekend I’ve been teaching Catherine (my fiancée) to
ride -
> with a bit more success than I expected.
>
> I was surprised to find that she, like me, finds it more comfortable to mount
> left foot first (we’re both right handed). She pointed out later that, also
> like me, she tends always to put on her left sock first, and her left shoe,
> and her left trouser leg. I wondered if there might be a general rule here.
>
> So, do right footed unicyclists tend to put their right socks on first? More
> importantly, is there anybody who doesn’t mount using the same foot that they
> usually clothe first? If there is a general rule here, it
could
> prove extremely useful when teaching complete beginners.
>
> –
> Danny Colyer (remove your.head to reply)
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> way to have to start the day.
>
>
>

RE: Which Foot?

In article <631B3F1D150FD3118E4D00A0C9EC1BDA2273A7@SERVER>, john_foss@asinet.com
(John Foss) wrote:
>> So, do right footed unicyclists tend to put their right socks on first? More
>> importantly, is there anybody who doesn’t
mount
>> using the same foot that they usually clothe first? If there is a general
>> rule here, it could prove extremely useful
when
>> teaching complete beginners.
>
>I thought about it, and I’m not even sure which side I put on
first. I like
>to think of myself as flexible enough to be able to start with
either foot.
>But I’m definitely right/right dominant.
>
>We had a discussion about this maybe a year or more ago, which
is your
>dominant foot, and does it relate to your dominant hand? Our
results were
>inconclusive, because we had a hard time defining what is your
dominant foot
>(outside of unicycling). So whereas many people were
right/right, I think at
>least an equal number were right hand/left foot.

There’s also turning preferences. If you ask someone to do a jump and half-turn
(or a cartwheel), most people will strongly prefer to turn either clockwise or
counterclockwise.

I’m not sure it will be strongly correlated to handedness or foot
dominance, though

I personally prefer to put my weight on my left leg when I’m balancing. I also
prefer to turn towards the left (counterclockwise). It could due to a slight
(and otherwise unnoticeable) lack of symmetry that makes it easier to be on one
side or the other.

>
>I think beginners will automatically figure out which is their
dominant foot
>as they learn to ride. Most beginners will bang the wheel on
the ground half
>a dozen times to get the pedal they want into position for
mounting.
>
>John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone http://www.unicycling.com
>
>“I’m not into pain. I’m into juggling.” - A grandpa with small
child at the
>Davis Picnic Day, walking away from the free unicycle lessons
toward the
>free juggling lessons (and already able to juggle!)
>
>

Ken

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Re: Which Foot?

Danny Colyer wrote:
>
> If there is a general rule here, it could prove extremely useful when
> teaching complete beginners.

The easiest way to determine which foot is somebody’s dominant foot, is to just
tell the person to walk forward from standing still. Which ever foot they step
forward with first is most likely their dominant foot.

I am right handed and left footed. I also hold the front of the seat with my
right hand. Not all right handed people hold the seat with their dominant hand
and I think it’s about half the people that do. For racing, holding the seat
with the right hand gives you a disadvantage when going around the corner since
you have to push the seat instead of pull it to help you turn. I haven’t tried
it, but I think that I’d do a lot better on the long races if the race was done
going the other way around the track.

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Re: Which Foot?

Danny Colyer wrote:
> I was surprised to find that she, like me, finds it more comfortable to mount
> left foot first (we’re both right handed). She pointed out later that, also
> like me, she tends always to put on her left sock first, and her left shoe,
> and her left trouser leg. I wondered if there might be a general rule here.

I’m right handed. I’m also juggling. When throwing under a leg, I prefer my left
leg with the right hand and vice versa (not the left leg under the right
hand!!!). I guess, that you can reach the left leg easier with the right hand
than the right leg (or foot). This is because you cross and you can bent your
leg to the side, instead just lifting it (crushing your chest or pressing your
belly). So maybe your left foot gets used to be the first to do anything and
right handers automatically develop a stronger left leg/foot.

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Re: Which Foot?

Roger Davies wrote:
>Great seeing you at BJC, great wasn’t it! anyway…
>

It certainly was. I enjoyed the ride around the solar system (and was glad I
wussed out of riding back again). I thought it was a trifle unfair, though. Over
the last few years more and more people have been getting 26" wheels and I’ve
been struggling to keep up on my 20". So now that I’ve got a 26", I found that
of 18 people on the ride 8 were on Cokers. Hmmph!

>A related foot issue was looked at a few years ago. I have found the concluding
>email. Sorry it is not very conclusive but is interesting.

It is interesting. From this, and from the other replies to my original post, it
seems that there is no way to predict which foot a beginner will prefer to start
with. Which is a shame.

As John Foss said, most beginners will automatically figure out which is
their dominant foot as they learn to ride. I know I did. But I’ve come across
a sizeable minority of beginners where determining the dominant unicycling
foot is the first major hurdle in learning to ride. Catherine was certainly
one of those.

Kris Holm said that “it is advantageous to mount with the same foot back as
you have back when hopping”, which works for me but isn’t much help for a
complete beginner!

Jacob Koski claims to “put my pants on two legs at a time”, which conjured up
images of some interesting levitation skills until I figured out he probably
gets dressed sitting down.


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