?: Which 24" to get (Beginner (for now...))

Hi,

I would like to order me a 24" uni, but don’t know which one to get…

Although for learning purpuses, I somehow feel mentally more
comfortable with the 24" one. I am 5’11, 145lbs, if that makes a
difference.

I understand the Miyata seat is the best commercial seat out there,
but the rest of the cycle as well?

It is not that I am after the “Mercedes” of unis, not at all. For
quality though, I don’t mind spending a bit more.

“Another one is going to bite the dust”,
Oz
www.liegerad.com

Hi!

I’m a recent beginner too. I was very happy ordering the United trainer for large adults from unicycle.com. I got the Miyata seat, and I think it is very comfortable.

I decided to buy an entry level model that I could beat up as I learn, and I was happy with that decision. It will let you find out if you are really into unicycling before dropping any real cash.

Now that I know I love unicycling, I don’t feel any money I sink into it is wasted at all.

Lewis

I was greatly impressed with the performance of the Sem XL. Very smooth, and a great value for the price. It also has a flat crown. I’m prejudiced against 20" wheels, but many people recommend them for skill developement. Head and sholder over the United or Toker- this is the cycle I wish I had purched as a starter:

http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=529

and if money ain’t no big deal, go for the wheel upgrade:

http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=530

Let us know what you get, and how you like it.

Christopher

All,

Yeah I have to second what Chris said. I forgot I had tried it out recently, duh. That Sem Chris points out is very nice.

Lewis

Re: ?: Which 24" to get (Beginner (for now…))

Chris,

The Kovachi-wheel Sem XL really looks tempting! Thanks for the
pointer.

What crank arm length would you recommend?

150mm I suppose (I have 170mm on my MTB and 172.5mm on my recumbent
and road bike), but not sure.

“Credit card in hand”, Oz

On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 15:53:29 -0600, rhysling
<rhysling.ni2o@timelimit.unicyclist.com> wrote:

>I was greatly impressed with the performance of the Sem XL. Very
>smooth, and a great value for the price. It also has a flat crown.
>I’m prejudiced against 20" wheels, but many people recommend them for
>skill developement. Head and sholder over the United or Toker- this is
>the cycle I wish I had purched as a starter:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/192
>
>and if money ain’t no big deal, go for the wheel upgrade:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/193
>
>Let us know what you get, and how you like it.

Oliver,

Unless you put a monster tire on the 24" (increasing the effective diameter) and are climbing hills or picking over obsticles (not a task typicaly performed by a freestyle training uni) then the 150’s will be a good choice- and less expensive. Your 170’s would be apt to hit the ground taking tight turns, working around curbs and other obsticles, and increase wheel wobble at top speed.

That said, I have little experience with shorter cranks… perhaps John or David or Roger could chime in here!

Christopher

RE: Re: ?: Which 24" to get (Beginner (for now…))

Hi Oliver.

150-mm (6-inch) cranks are standard on most 24-inch unicycles. It’s a
good size for training and for off-road. 170-mm (6.5-inch) cranks are
preferred with 26-inch (and 24 x 3, which is actually 26-inch) tires.

Short cranks are better for street and distance riding. My Sem 26-inch
has 110-mm (4-1/4 inch) and my Coker 36-inch has 125-mm (5-inch) cranks.
Short cranks make the ride smoother, but steep hills a bit harder to
climb.

Start with the 150s. You can always swap crank sizes later to match
your riding preferences.

Best regards,

John Drummond


1-800-Unicycle

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Oliver,

Unless you put a monster tire on the 24" (increasing the effective
diameter) and are climbing hills or picking over obsticles (not a task
typicaly performed by a freestyle training uni) then the 150’s will be a
good choice- and less expensive. Your 170’s would be apt to hit the
ground taking tight turns, working around curbs and other obsticles, and
increase wheel wobble at top speed.

That said, I have little experience with shorter cranks… perhaps John
or David or Roger could chime in here!

Christopher


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Re: Which 24" to get (Beginner)

I’ve been perusing unicycle.com for my first 24 also, and came up with this choice:
I ordered the United Offroad model with Kovachi wheel and Miyata saddle. A very nicely optioned uni with a stronger wheelset and comfortable seat. To this, I added a Kenda street tire. And, to top it all off, the Sem XLW 24/26 frame. This brought my total to $244. So, for slightly less than the Sem XL 24 with wheel upgrade, I’m also getting a Miyata seat, a wide frame with flat top for foot rest, and that will also fit a 26" wheelset (for road riding longer distances…later).
I can hardly wait!

Will

Willfcc,

Maybe I’m crazy, but if you ordered the United Offroad but then swapped out to the Sem frame, don’t you have a Sem? And if you added a street tire, do you now have 2 tires?

Did you trick somebody? Do you have 1 unicycle, or 2 but only 1 seat?

Sounds confusing.

Lewis

Which

Lewis,

Yes, a bit confusing I guess, but here’s my logic:

Sem XL 24 with wheel upgrade is $259.
Sem XLW 24 with wheel upgrade and Miyata seat is $329. John offered to chop $50 off that price to delete the Gazz tire, which brings the price to $279, and I need a tire.

My choice ends up as a Sem XLW 24, with slightly different wheel upgrade and Miyata seat, for $244. Granted, I don’t have the Gazz tire, but I’m adding a street tire, because that’s where most of my riding will be. When I want to try Muni, I can always put the knobby back on.

I do end up with a spare United frame (any takers?). And, I can fit a 26" wheelset in the future.

Thanks,

RE: Re: ?: Which 24" to get (Beginner (for now…))

To add to the crank length array:

If you want to race at a competition, such as NAUCC and UNICON this summer,
you’ll want 125mm cranks on your 24". That’s the legal minimum size for the
races.

For some events, such as MUni and the unlimited marathon, there are no wheel
size or crank restrictions.

Stay on top,
John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone
jfoss@unicycling.com

“You’re not supposed to wash your Roach armor” - Nathan Hoover, on safety
equipment cleaning methods

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rsu-admin@unicycling.org [mailto:rsu-admin@unicycling.org]On
> Behalf Of John Drummond
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 5:41 PM
> To: rsu@unicycling.org
> Subject: RE: Re: ?: Which 24" to get (Beginner (for now…))
>
>
> Hi Oliver.
>
> 150-mm (6-inch) cranks are standard on most 24-inch unicycles. It’s a
> good size for training and for off-road. 170-mm (6.5-inch) cranks are
> preferred with 26-inch (and 24 x 3, which is actually 26-inch) tires.
>
> Short cranks are better for street and distance riding. My
> Sem 26-inch
> has 110-mm (4-1/4 inch) and my Coker 36-inch has 125-mm
> (5-inch) cranks.
> Short cranks make the ride smoother, but steep hills a bit harder to
> climb.
>
> Start with the 150s. You can always swap crank sizes later to match
> your riding preferences.
>
> Best regards,
>
> John Drummond
> www.Unicycle.com
> 1-800-Unicycle
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rsu-admin@unicycling.org [mailto:rsu-admin@unicycling.org] On
> Behalf Of rhysling
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 7:49 PM
> To: rsu@unicycling.org
> Subject: Re: Re: ?: Which 24" to get (Beginner (for now…))
>
>
> Oliver,
>
> Unless you put a monster tire on the 24" (increasing the effective
> diameter) and are climbing hills or picking over obsticles (not a task
> typicaly performed by a freestyle training uni) then the
> 150’s will be a
> good choice- and less expensive. Your 170’s would be apt to hit the
> ground taking tight turns, working around curbs and other
> obsticles, and
> increase wheel wobble at top speed.
>
> That said, I have little experience with shorter cranks…
> perhaps John
> or David or Roger could chime in here!
>
> Christopher
>
>
> –
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>
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Re: ?: Which 24" to get (Beginner (for now…))

YEAH, that is the one I am going to order!

I just “got off the eMail” with John, though, and he informed me that
the Miyata saddles are only available with 200mm seatpost at the
moment.

New ones are on order and should arrive in Georgia around 3/30 (500
red, 500 blue and 500 green ones).

The price w/ shipping (US) and Kenda road tire: $307

Cheers, Oz

On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:32:10 -0600, willfcc
<willfcc.os51@timelimit.unicyclist.com> wrote:

>Sem XLW 24 with wheel upgrade and Miyata seat is $329. John offered to
>chop $50 off that price to delete the Gazz tire, which brings the price
>to $279, and I need a tire.

Re: Which 24

Good for you, Oliver!

My United/XLW was shipped today, scheduled to arrive 5 Mar. It’s going to be a long week.

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My United/XLW was shipped today, scheduled to arrive 5 Mar. It’s going
to be a long week.


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