— “J.ROWING” <jr699@soton.ac.uk> wrote: > Hi Kris > > I’d like to ask you a question if I may - What’s your verdict on wheel > sizes and why? I mostly do trials and stuff and uni to University (on a > 20 inch trials) I’ve been thinking about a 24 inch wheel >
My view is that for pure trials, especially urban trials, a 20" with a big
(ie Onza or Monty) tire is usually best because it’s lighter and more
manouverable, plus you can do more freestyle tricks with it. Having said
that, once you get used to the extra weight, you can do just about as much
on a 24" and it is much more stable for some things, such as gapping
perpendicular to narrow railings (especially gapping across and down to
something; there is less difference if you are gapping across and up onto
something). The 24" is also better for really big drops (not including
seat-out-in-front drops), drops to transitions, and rolling over things
like down stairs.
Now that it’s possible to get short (145mm) Profile cranks for a 20" uni,
I’m using a 20" with Profile hub for trials and a 24" for MUni (which the
20" is really bad for unless you are a kid).
Further to that question what crank size would you recommend for trials on
a 24’ muni? I am on a Max Traction with a big (3’) contra tyre, making the
overall wheel as big as most 26’ mountain bike wheels. I bought it for off
roading but as there are hardly any suitable places in Manchester UK I am
using it for trials instead.
Kris Holm <danger_uni@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:mailman.1005174670.25081.rsu@unicycling.org… > — “J.ROWING” <jr699@soton.ac.uk> wrote: > > Hi Kris > > > > I’d like to ask you a question if I may - What’s your verdict on wheel
sizes > > and why? I mostly do trials and stuff and uni to University (on a 20 > > inch trials)
I’ve > > been thinking about a 24 inch wheel > > > > My view is that for pure trials, especially urban trials, a 20" > with a big
(ie Onza or Monty) tire > is usually best because it’s lighter and more manouverable, plus you can
do more freestyle tricks > with it. Having said that, once you get used to the extra weight, you > can
do just about as much > on a 24" and it is much more stable for some things, such as gapping
perpendicular to narrow > railings (especially gapping across and down to something; there is less
difference if you are > gapping across and up onto something). The 24" is also better for really
big drops (not including > seat-out-in-front drops), drops to transitions, and rolling over things
like down stairs. > > Now that it’s possible to get short (145mm) Profile cranks for a > 20" uni,
I’m using a 20" with > Profile hub for trials and a 24" for MUni (which the 20" is really bad
for unless you are a kid). > > Hope that helps. > > -Kris. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com
— David Straitjacket
<straitjacketcircus@'DELETETHIS’totalise.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Kris > > Further to that question what crank size would you recommend for trials > on a 24’ muni?
My preference for technical riding on a 24"x3" MUni are 170mm crank arms.
-Kris.
— David Straitjacket
<straitjacketcircus@'DELETETHIS’totalise.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Kris > > Further to that question what crank size would you recommend for trials > on a 24’ muni? I am on a Max Traction with a big (3’) contra tyre, > making the overall wheel as big as most 26’ mountain bike wheels. I > bought it for off roading but as there are hardly any suitable places in > Manchester UK I am using it for trials instead. > > Thanks > > David Straitjacket www.straitjacketcircus.co.uk > > > Kris Holm <danger_uni@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:mailman.1005174670.25081.rsu@unicycling.org… > > — “J.ROWING” <jr699@soton.ac.uk> wrote: > > > Hi Kris > > > > > > I’d like to ask you a question if I may - What’s your verdict on > > > wheel > sizes > > > and why? I mostly do trials and stuff and uni to University (on a 20 > > > inch trials) > I’ve > > > been thinking about a 24 inch wheel > > > > > > > My view is that for pure trials, especially urban trials, a 20" > > with a big > (ie Onza or Monty) tire > > is usually best because it’s lighter and more manouverable, plus > > you can > do more freestyle tricks > > with it. Having said that, once you get used to the extra weight, > > you can > do just about as much > > on a 24" and it is much more stable for some things, such as gapping > perpendicular to narrow > > railings (especially gapping across and down to something; there > > is less > difference if you are > > gapping across and up onto something). The 24" is also better for > > really > big drops (not including > > seat-out-in-front drops), drops to transitions, and rolling over > > things > like down stairs. > > > > Now that it’s possible to get short (145mm) Profile cranks for a > > 20" uni, > I’m using a 20" with > > Profile hub for trials and a 24" for MUni (which the 20" is really bad > for unless you are a kid). > > > > Hope that helps. > > > > -Kris. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________- > ________ > rec.sport.unicycling mailing list - > www.unicycling.org/mailman/listinfo/rsu
You use a 24" for MUni ? I recall the last scene in Unizaba (web version)
in which Nathan Hoover and yourself seemed to be going quite fast… I was
sure it was on a 26" wheel… What are the pros and cons of 24" for MUni ?
Thanks !
Christ.
> I’m using a 20" with Profile hub for trials and a 24" for MUni (which > the 20" is really bad for unless you are a kid). > > Hope that helps. > > -Kris. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com
– Christian St-Pierre <Christian.St-Pierre@fse.ulaval.ca> wrote: > > > > Hi Kris, > > You use a 24" for MUni ? I recall the last scene in Unizaba (web > version) in which Nathan Hoover and yourself seemed to be going quite > fast… I was sure it was on a 26" wheel… What are the pros and cons > of 24" for MUni ? >
In Unizaba both Nathan and I are on 24" MUnis with 3" Gazzolodi tires.
They look big because the Gazz 3" tire brings the diameter up to within an
inch of a 26" rim with a Gazz Junior (2.6") tire.
Both 24" and 26" are good for MUni. The advantage of a 24" is the rim is
much stronger and the fat tire means that you have less tendency to get
pinch flats.
I have 150mm cranks and I thought they were to long! I am learing one
footed stuff at the moment and am finding the longer cranks (compared to
my 20’ uni) hard to rotate in a complete circle. I can’t imagine what
adding an extra 20mm’s would do for my riding.
If I get the chance to have a go on something similar with longer cranks I
will take your advice and see how it feels. One question I have for you is
why 170mm?
Thanks again
David
Kris Holm <danger_uni@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:mailman.1005255012.2457.rsu@unicycling.org… > – Christian St-Pierre <Christian.St-Pierre@fse.ulaval.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Kris, > > > > You use a 24" for MUni ? I recall the last scene in Unizaba (web
version) in which Nathan Hoover > > and yourself seemed to be going quite fast… I was sure it was > > on a 26"
wheel… What are the pros > > and cons of 24" for MUni ? > > > > In Unizaba both Nathan and I are on 24" MUnis with 3" Gazzolodi tires.
They look big because the > Gazz 3" tire brings the diameter up to within an inch of a 26" > rim with a
Gazz Junior (2.6") tire. > > Both 24" and 26" are good for MUni. The advantage of a 24" is the rim is
much stronger and the > fat tire means that you have less tendency to get pinch flats. > > -Kris. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com
We both use 170mm cranks and it is possible to go fast enough with this
setup. I have also ridden the 26x3 tire a couple of times and don’t like
it. Too big & heavy, although you can go faster.
If you measure the full diameter of the inflated 24x3 Gazz, I think you’ll
find it is over 26". And the 26x3 is just under 29" if I remember right.
That’s big!
As to “why 170mm?”, it’s because on really steep slopes, either up or
down, I need the extra leverage. Optimally, I would like to dynamically
vary the length between 150 and 180mm, but 170 is the right compromise for
the rides we do.
—Nathan
“Kris Holm” <danger_uni@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:mailman.1005255012.2457.rsu@unicycling.org… > – Christian St-Pierre <Christian.St-Pierre@fse.ulaval.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Kris, > > > > You use a 24" for MUni ? I recall the last scene in Unizaba (web
version) in which Nathan Hoover > > and yourself seemed to be going quite fast… I was sure it was > > on a 26"
wheel… What are the pros > > and cons of 24" for MUni ? > > > > In Unizaba both Nathan and I are on 24" MUnis with 3" Gazzolodi tires.
They look big because the > Gazz 3" tire brings the diameter up to within an inch of a 26" > rim with a
Gazz Junior (2.6") tire. > > Both 24" and 26" are good for MUni. The advantage of a 24" is the rim is
much stronger and the > fat tire means that you have less tendency to get pinch flats. > > -Kris.
If you typically ride on gentle trails or long distance cross-country then
150’s are probably better. Around where I live it’s really necessary to
have the longer length because everything is so steep. Even with 170’s
it’s sometimes hard to slow down on the steep stuff, and climbing is way
easier with the longer cranks. Long cranks are also more stable for
gapping across obstacles when doing trials.
-Kris.
— David <straitjacketcircus@totalise.co.uk> wrote: > Thanks for your help. > > I have 150mm cranks and I thought they were to long! I am learing one > footed stuff at the moment and am finding the longer cranks (compared to > my 20’ uni) hard to rotate in a complete circle. I can’t imagine what > adding an extra 20mm’s would do for my riding. > > If I get the chance to have a go on something similar with longer cranks > I will take your advice and see how it feels. One question I have for > you is why 170mm? > > Thanks again > > David > > ----- Original Message ----- From: Kris Holm <danger_uni@yahoo.com> To: > David Straitjacket <straitjacketcircus@totalise.co.uk>; > <rsu@unicycling.org> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:11 PM Subject: > Re: Wheel sizes > > > > — David Straitjacket <straitjacketcircus@'DELETETHIS’totalise.co.uk> > wrote: > > > Hi Kris > > > > > > Further to that question what crank size would you recommend for > > > trials > on a > > > 24’ muni? > > > > My preference for technical riding on a 24"x3" MUni are 170mm > > crank arms. > > > > -Kris. > > > > > > — David Straitjacket <straitjacketcircus@'DELETETHIS’totalise.co.uk> > wrote: > > > Hi Kris > > > > > > Further to that question what crank size would you recommend for > > > trials > on a > > > 24’ muni? I am on a Max Traction with a big (3’) contra tyre, making > > > the overall wheel as big as most 26’ mountain bike wheels. I bought > > > it for > off > > > roading but as there are hardly any suitable places in Manchester > > > UK I > am > > > using it for trials instead. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > David Straitjacket www.straitjacketcircus.co.uk > > > > > > > > > Kris Holm <danger_uni@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > news:mailman.1005174670.25081.rsu@unicycling.org… > > > > — “J.ROWING” <jr699@soton.ac.uk> wrote: > > > > > Hi Kris > > > > > > > > > > I’d like to ask you a question if I may - What’s your verdict on > wheel > > > sizes > > > > > and why? I mostly do trials and stuff and uni to University (on > > > > > a 20 inch > trials) > > > I’ve > > > > > been thinking about a 24 inch wheel > > > > > > > > > > > > > My view is that for pure trials, especially urban trials, a 20" > > > > with a > big > > > (ie Onza or Monty) tire > > > > is usually best because it’s lighter and more manouverable, plus > > > > you > can > > > do more freestyle tricks > > > > with it. Having said that, once you get used to the extra weight, > > > > you > can > > > do just about as much > > > > on a 24" and it is much more stable for some things, such as > > > > gapping > > > perpendicular to narrow > > > > railings (especially gapping across and down to something; there > > > > is > less > > > difference if you are > > > > gapping across and up onto something). The 24" is also better for > really > > > big drops (not including > > > > seat-out-in-front drops), drops to transitions, and rolling over > things > > > like down stairs. > > > > > > > > Now that it’s possible to get short (145mm) Profile cranks for a > > > > 20" > uni, > > > I’m using a 20" with > > > > Profile hub for trials and a 24" for MUni (which the 20" is really > bad > > > for unless you are a kid). > > > > > > > > Hope that helps. > > > > > > > > -Kris. > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. > > > > http://careers.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________- > ________ > > > rec.sport.unicycling mailing list - > www.unicycling.org/mailman/listinfo/rsu > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com >
