What should I get? Coker, 24", something else?

I’m looking for my next unicycle; I have a 20", which is fun for
learning tricks, but I also want something I can ride around the streets
and maybe commute with.

I’m about 6’ or 6’1" tall. Will a Coker be good for what I want, or is
it too big? Will I find a 24" frustrating?

http://www.vicuni.info

Well I have a coker and a 24" MUni, both of which I have gone on long rides for( in my mind atleast) which have been up to 4 hours. The coker will allow you to communte quickly, and further distances I would say, but you haave to be quite confident in your riding and its not as versatile. The 24"is pretty versatile I think. It’s a unicycle that you can change to use for basically any type of riding.
Only my opinions ofcourse. And I found it easier to just have both of them. :wink: :wink:

Jules,

If you want to do street riding and by commuting you mean “tooling around” (something I like to do) then a 24" would be fine, especially if it is a 24" Muni style cycle, because the big fat tire on it almost makes it seem bigger. However, a 26" would probably be a cool compromise also, and you could probably get a cool tire for it, and go longer distances. I would guess that if you really want to commute, you’d want a 29" or a Coker. For in-city I would prefer a 29" because they are so light compared to the Coker. Still, I guess a lot of folks here use the Coker in the city but that’s too much mass for me to deal with in a pinch. That’s why I have yet to buy one. If I can find some nice LONG paved Bike Trails (I cant wait to check out Long Leaf Trace) I may get a Coker.

Anyway, I hate deciding, so I just try to own one of each. :slight_smile: I still dont have a 26" or a Cokey though.

Well, just some random comments from a bored novice.

Lewis

I vote for the coker. It’s fine in the city once you get control over it.

-Eric

Maybe we can convince Gilby to automate a process that will force-route any future posts starting with "What kind of unicycle should I get?’ into one of the previous debate threads already created on the topic.

But since you asked… :smiley:

Get a Coker…with your height, you’ll ride like the wind.

Then get a 29" and give it the Jagur Muni Conversion treatment. You’ll be so used to riding fast from your Coker that a 24 in the woods just won’t cut it anymore. A downhill single track just won’t be exciting at less than 10mph, which will require the 29.

For street riding or commuting, if you’re planning on regularly riding more than a couple miles at a time, you’ll find a 24 or smaller frustrating.

If you can get only one, the 29" is more versatile for umpteen reasons. More maneuverable in traffic and crowds, stronger OEM rims, more frames to choose from, far wider choice of tires (Coker = one choice of tire), easier to mount, idle, ride backwards, etc.
All that said, if I could only have one, I’d choose the Coker. Irrational, yes, but I’ve been bitten.

Maybe someone better at searching can post links to some of the past debates. We’ve had some good ones…

The 24 is generally agreed to be the best all round unicycle, good for a bit of freestyle, MUni or distance riding. However, it is very similar to a 20, so I’d say your second unicycle needs to be a bit bigger than 24, especially as you’re so tall.

So that leaves 26, 28, 29 or Coker.

The 28 or 29 would be the sensible, versatile, portable, robust, economical option. The Coker is unique, though.

The sensible answer is get a 28 or 29. The tempting answer is get a 28/29 then start saving for a Coker.

But I got my Coker first, and didn’t regret it…

COker YAH BABY
there just groovy

I olny own a coker thoe

My reasons for getting a 29er

I’ve had a 20" uni for years now, I’m getting my second (not counting the UWs) uni soon, and I’ve decided to get a 29er for the following reasons.

I can ride it on road with reasonable speed.

I can use it off road if I stay away from big hops and drops

If I get into longer rides on road I can upgrade to a geared hub when it becomes available.

If i find that it the wheel is too big for muni and too small for distance riding I can get a replacement 24" or 26" wheel, and at least have a decent road uni until I have saved up for a coker.

I think a 24" would be too much like the 20". Getting a new uni I want it to be different from the one I already have.

The 29er is cheaper than a coker.

A coker is the most different unicycle from anything else and really is great, especially if you’re tall. They’re lovely for commuting too.

However, a 29er is a great toy as well, better for off road. I’m a little bit faster on my commute on my 29er at the moment because it involves a lot of very tight riding in traffic and a bit of hopping up / down kerbs which is hard on the coker.

Joe

You might read some of the Coker/29er comparisons. Mike Fule and I have both written one, look in the product reviews, there are Coker and 29er reviews there. In the end it all depends on what kind of terrain you have access to. carjug

I wouldn’t agree about the similarity of 20" and 24"; relative to riding a coker I can see how they would appear similar, but from the perspective of riding a 24" muni, there’s no way I would want to ride a 20" on the streets.

I think maybe confusion arises cos people get used to their main ride.

For example, for well over a year I was totally happy riding my 24x3" , 6" crank muni every day as both muni and street machine.

When i got into my 29" with 5" cranks, on the occasions Itook the muni on the streets it seemed painfully slow.

After stopping riding the 29"-er cos of any accident, I started again on the muni and am now reacustomed to it.

I can’t speak about Cokers, cos I don’t have one; but I can recommend a 24x3"-er very highly, also 29-ers are great.

Another thing to think about where speed is concerned is how fast do you want to get somewhere? If it’s that important maybe a bike would be better.

One of the things I like about my Muni is that you can crank up the speed (I’m using it currently to get fit on) yet not be going so fast that you’re going to mash yourself up if you come off it.

Re: What should I get? Coker, 24", something else?

My two cents…

Depends on purpose / what you are doing with it.

Basically: if you want to ride blocks or small miles, the 24" would be fine and fun. If you want to ride larger distances, then the Coker is wonderful - a terrific cruising machine.

The 24" is only 20% bigger/faster than a 20". Mind you, for riding around the block and such, that is a big step up from a 20". The 24" is also pretty maneuverable.

The Coker is a LOT bigger and faster than a 20" or 24". It rides over small bumps very smoothly; it rides up/down small slopes easily due to the momentum the huge tire has in it. It is not very maneuverable at all - even just waiting for traffic typically means a dismount/remount because it is quite hard to idle or hop.

If you’ve got a little extra cash and aren’t going to be doing ‘abusive’ riding, you could buy a Coker (for cruising) and a nice inexpensive Torker 24" (black model highly recommended over chrome) for playing around in the neighborhood.

I have never ridden them, but a 28" or 29" might be a nice mid-point - or it might be a sad mid-point, giving you a unicycle that doesn’t cruise smooth/fast like a Coker nor maneuverable like a 24.

.duaner.

Duaner posted that the 24 is only 20% bigger/faster than the 20.

Assuming a true wheel and tyre diameter of 20 and 24 inches respectively:
20% bigger, yes. A typical 20 comes with 5 inch cranks, a typical 24 comes with 6 inch cranks. In each case, the wheel diameter is twice the diameter of the circle made by the pedals. The ratio is the same, and the speed will be pretty similar.

Put 5 inch (125mm) cranks on a 24 and it becomes (almost) exactly 20% faster than the 20.

Put 110mm cranks on the 24 and it becomes a bit faster. 102s start to become a bit of a handful, and anything shorter is a bit specialised.

Now compare the 28 and the 24. 4 inches bigger, but only 17% difference… so the 28 is nearer to a 24 than the 20 is.

There are more variables than wheel diameter. How good is your freemounting? A Coker is great if you can freemount 100%. It’s a liability if you’re around 50% or less. Dismounting for obstacles becomes an ‘Issue’!

For all round unicycling versatility, a good 24 (or perhaps 26 for a tall person) is probably best. For safe and fast road use, a 28/29 is probably best. For cruising (roads and tracks, no serious interaction with traffic) the Coker comes into its own.

For 30 miles of cycle path, towpath and trails, take a Coker. For 5 miles of junctions, traffic lights, pedestrians, take a 28.

As for geared hubs etc., these are a great idea, but don’t imagine you need one for distance. 30 - 40 mile rides are easily achievable on either a 28 or a Coker. Many people have ridden lots further.

For your “riding around the streets and maybe commuting,” I personally would go for either possibly a 24 or more likely a 26 or a 28/29 (700C).

The 24 is my favorite for neighborhood wanderings, but it’s too slow to be a really good commuter wheel. I do sometimes take it out on 10±mile rides, but after about the fifth mile or so I usually find myself wanting a larger uni.

I do not own a 26 but have ridden and liked them, and as an all-around ride I think it would be a decent compromise of range and maneuverability - enough of both to be versatile, perhaps not enough of either to excel.

I do 10-20 mile rides on my 29 pretty regularly, cruising at about 7.5 mph on the flat. It has significantly better distance capability than the 24 while still maneuvering crisply, though with a bit more effort. This is the uni that I ride most often.

I would not recommend going straight from a 20" up to a Coker as a general purpose uni, at least not without taking a few test-drives on one first to find out if it’s right for you. The Coker can be surprisingly agile in the hands (or thighs) of an experienced rider, but it really is something of a specialty distance cycle, and handling it effectively in tight spaces (freemounting, idling, stopping / turning quickly etc.) takes a good deal of skill and practice. I do not own a Coker but have taken several admittedly brief test-drives on them. I felt that it was something that I could probably adapt to with enough practice, but was way more unicycle than I needed. The Coker owns the open trail and is the obvious choice for frequent long-distance touring. I don’t think that I would feel comfortable riding one in my neighborhood environment here, though. Of course, I am only about a level 2.7 unicyclist; if you try the Coker and love it, go for it.

As an aside, I disagree a bit with unicycle.com’s categorization of the larger wheel sizes; I would call the Coker a touring machine, and the 28/29’s commuters, rather than the other way around.