What I missed at UNICON VIII (+ Re: injuries)

Due to my exams/final thesis/holiday in Germany/applying and getting a job, I
have been away from the internet for some time (this group had 300 articles to
read, some had 2000)

Would it be possible for all photos to be scanned and all videos to be
MPG’ed/AVI’ed and placed on a web page, from UNICON VIII ?

I was sadly unable to make it to - what will probably be - my best hope at
attending a UNICON event :frowning:

I have also been told by my Doctor that if I don’t stop unicycling (and my
athletics, so bye bye Sydney 2000) I’ll soon be unable to walk! I have a
very common problem with my knees, which is most often found in road runners
and cyclists.

This is connected to the thread on how dangerous unicycling can be. This is an
extreme case, but less extreme is tricks going backwards, unicycling really is
safe, apart from this, 99% of all injuries I have had (only about 7 in 4 years)
have been done going backwards, which can take a while before you learn. So to
the poster trying to convince their parents its okay. Tell them that much.

Damion

P.S. if you can get data from UNICON VIII and haven’t the means to scan or
mpeg/avi/etc… the videos contact me at this address, if you can but don’t
have the space to keep it, do NOT send to this address, but send info of
the size and I’ll do some shuffling in my many accounts :wink:

Damion Yates - Damion@myates.demon.co.uk homepage: http://www.bath.ac.uk/~exxdmy
(this is pants)

Re: knee injuries

Leander wrote:
>
> Damion Yates <Damion@myates.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >Due to my exams/final thesis/holiday in Germany/applying and getting a job, I
> >have been away from the internet for some time (this group had 300 articles
> >to read, some had 2000) …snipped… I have also been told by my Doctor that
> >if I don’t stop unicycling (and my athletics, so bye bye Sydney 2000) I’ll
> >soon be unable to walk! I have a very common problem with my knees, which is
> >most often found in road runners and cyclists. …snipped… Damion
>
> Running is particularly hard on the joints. Cycling can cause knee pain, but
> often one finds the knee pain resolves or lessens when the seat height is
> adjusted. Other times, (seen with bicyclists) toe-clips are the source of the
> pain, which is more a problem with anatomical variances. Also in bicyclists,
> improper gear usage results in knee pain, from having to push to hard on the
> pedals. In unicycles, this would translate more into wheel diameter and
> terrain pedalled, since one is stuck in a single gear. About the easiest to
> vary is seat height, so that might be one method to try. Also, doing quad
> exercises often help. It depends a lot on the precise nature of the problem,
> but the above are the more common cycling related knee problems. Often it is
> possible to modify activity without giving it up, but it takes work and good
> communication between you and your physician, especially with sports related
> and overuse injuries, which can be chronic or recurrent. The extra work seems
> worth it, in order to continue the sport. ~Leander overfall@ixl.net

I ride a 26" uni with long (172) cranks and mini toe clips. the toe clips give
me more variation in my peddling style. also being ‘mini’ toe clips are no
danger when crashing.

they have caused some problems for me - but may be due to my strange anatomy
than anything else. I ride some very steep hills to and from work everyday, I
generally change peddling style to use more calves and more toe clip when the
peddling gets hard enough.

The toe clips also allow me to point my toes more at the bottom of each stroke
(for pulling). The problem I had was my gastroc’s weren’t getting stretched out
enough after my rides. I have one gastrocnemius (sp?) that extends all the way
into my ankle. (it buries the achilles) the achilles is weaker on that leg
because the muscle does part of it’s job. I believe the toe clips allow more use
of my calves and a more contracted position of the calves overall. which caused
my problem, achilles tendonitus (muscle fatigue, and the achilles was
overwhelmed). I just stretch more than I used to and I’m more concious of what I
do to affect that joint.

Anyway I was just agreeing with the point made above, changing peddling style
can help, and maybe mini toe clips could help you. It definitely gives a longer
power stroke. And as in cycling allows you to switch between muscle groups.

Eric

Re: knee injuries

Leander wrote:
>
> >I ride a 26" uni with long (172) cranks and mini toe clips. the toe clips
> >give me more variation in my peddling style. also being ‘mini’ toe clips are
> >no danger when crashing. …snipped… Anyway I was just agreeing with the
> >point made above, changing peddling style can help, and maybe mini toe clips
> >could help you. It definitely gives a longer power stroke. And as in cycling
> >allows you to switch between muscle groups. Eric
>
> Is that a basket-style clip, or one of the peddle-shoe combos? Usually, it’s
> the combos that cause a problem, because they limit foot movement. The cheap
> ones lock your foot into one position, which only varies with peddle
> rotations. Even the better ones only allow about 10-5 degree horizontal
> rotation at the ball of the foot, but still not a good up and down rotation.
> With the basket style, the foot is freerer to move in an infinite number of
> directions, but you still have the adjantage of the toe clips on upstroke.
> Nice idea, though, mini-clips on a uni. Have to look into that, when I get
> better at riding my uni (still learning). ~Leander overfall@ixl.net

It’s the old basket style toe clip like if you took an ordinary bicycle toe
clip, took off the strap and then cut it off where the cross bar is. That’s how
I made my first ones. You can buy them now tho. T\You should still be careful
with peddling style they aren’t as versatile as on a bike with a strap.

Eric

Re: knee injuries

Damion Yates <Damion@myates.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Due to my exams/final thesis/holiday in Germany/applying and getting a job, I
>have been away from the internet for some time (this group had 300 articles to
>read, some had 2000) …snipped… I have also been told by my Doctor that if I
>don’t stop unicycling (and my athletics, so bye bye Sydney 2000) I’ll soon be
>unable to walk! I have a very common problem with my knees, which is most often
>found in road runners and cyclists. …snipped… Damion

Running is particularly hard on the joints. Cycling can cause knee pain, but
often one finds the knee pain resolves or lessens when the seat height is
adjusted. Other times, (seen with bicyclists) toe-clips are the source of the
pain, which is more a problem with anatomical variances. Also in bicyclists,
improper gear usage results in knee pain, from having to push to hard on the
pedals. In unicycles, this would translate more into wheel diameter and terrain
pedalled, since one is stuck in a single gear. About the easiest to vary is seat
height, so that might be one method to try. Also, doing quad exercises often
help. It depends a lot on the precise nature of the problem, but the above are
the more common cycling related knee problems. Often it is possible to modify
activity without giving it up, but it takes work and good communication between
you and your physician, especially with sports related and overuse injuries,
which can be chronic or recurrent. The extra work seems worth it, in order to
continue the sport. ~Leander overfall@ixl.net

Re: knee injuries

>I ride a 26" uni with long (172) cranks and mini toe clips. the toe clips give
>me more variation in my peddling style. also being ‘mini’ toe clips are no
>danger when crashing. …snipped… Anyway I was just agreeing with the point
>made above, changing peddling style can help, and maybe mini toe clips could
>help you. It definitely gives a longer power stroke. And as in cycling allows
>you to switch between muscle groups. Eric

Is that a basket-style clip, or one of the peddle-shoe combos? Usually, it’s the
combos that cause a problem, because they limit foot movement. The cheap ones
lock your foot into one position, which only varies with peddle rotations. Even
the better ones only allow about 10-5 degree horizontal rotation at the ball of
the foot, but still not a good up and down rotation. With the basket style, the
foot is freerer to move in an infinite number of directions, but you still have
the adjantage of the toe clips on upstroke. Nice idea, though, mini-clips on a
uni. Have to look into that, when I get better at riding my uni (still
learning). ~Leander overfall@ixl.net