What do Jade Goody and Mahatma Gandhi have in common?

They’re both big racists! Maybe in a hundred years our great-grandchildren will bang on about how wonderful and saintly Jade was, and how much we can learn from her life and teachings :stuck_out_tongue:

http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/aah/singh_12_3.htm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/southafrica/story/0,13262,1065018,00.html

Erm, sorry about the random TV reference, Jade Goody is a reality TV “star” and possibly the worst thing Britain has produced since we invented concentration camps. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_Goody

Jade Goody and Ghandi - an unlikely comparison. GCSE History question: compare and contrast Jade Goody and Mahatma Ghandi, their historical impact and political achievements, giving reasons and examples…

Here’s a slant on racism, aproposMs, Goody:

It is considered perfectly acceptable for the media to refer to her as a thick fat ugly chav, or a typical rough Essex girl.

She cannot help where she was born and brought up, nor can she help her social background. She cannot do anything about her innate (low) level of intelligence. She is entitled to be overweight as are most people of her age, and although she is in a privileged financial position, and could afford to have cosmetic surgery, why should she do so to conform to a socially constructed ideal of feminine beauty?

Yet it is widely considered to be perfectly acceptable to criticise her and insult her for these things that she cannot help. (Yes, she can help her behaviour, but that’s not the point here.) Then, as a normal product of her background, she displays behaviour based on an uneducated low level racism clearly arising from ignorance rather than any carefully thought out philosophy (I doubt she’s read Nietzsche), and she is torn to pieces by the self-righteously baying hounds of the shallow and trivial culture that propelled her to celebrity status in the first place.

With an illegal war still raging, and tens of thousands dead; with a huge migrant labour force ruthlessly exploited by gang masters, drug barons and pimps; and with racial origin remaining a very accurate indicator of likely educational and economic achievevement, we have found a scapegoat - someone we can all feel good about hating.

So we can call her a thick fat ugly Essex chav with impunity, and she stupidly calls an Indian a “Paki” and she has to be protected from the public because of death threats.

And if the Indian actress had not been elegant and exceptionally attractive?

You all should know me well enough that I will always speak out against racism and bigotry, but on this occasion, the media have been hypocritical, applying a double standard, and losing all sense of proportion.

Mikefule I totally agree with what you are saying and think it has been blown way out of proportion, I don’t like Jade at all and would rather not ever see her on TV but to brand her as a racist is a bit harsh. If she had slagged off Northerners or the Scottish or maybe the Welsh or the Irish would she have been labelled racist then?
Unlikely.

Mike - I take your point about the whole thing being blown out of proportion and Jade being made a scapegoat, and there are far more important things out there than Big brother. It was a silly example, and she is a very easy target right now. I guess the point of my post was to draw attention to Gandhi’s (far worse) racism, rather than the other way around.
But while we’re here, there are definitely double standards about how the media have treated her, and class prejudice is still very much alive and well in the UK. However that does not make her actions acceptable. She clearly bullied and racially abused Shilpa Shetti. I share Mike’s view that her general ignorance is not of her own making or choosing and excusable. However, the way in which she behaved was not merely ignorant and she came across as a nasty, vindictive person and what she did cannot be justified by her upbringing etc. The media’s class prejudice cannot justify that kind of behaviour, what she did was wrong for exactly the same reasons that the class prejudices the media perpetuates are also wrong (albeit on a different scale.)

those two both have wierd names!

They aren’t me.

Their last name both start with a G!

Look i dont know, this question is silly…

yet mike still wrote a novel on it.

Back on topic (sort of).

Big Brother - what did they think would happen? Bringing Jade (as described by Mikefule and the british media) into a house full of well educated (some of them anyway) and generally more privilidged people than herself.

I’m sure that Big Brother was well aware that Jade (and family) would feel threatened and would lash out the only way they could. Big Brother manipulated the situation (and the participants) good and proper and have got massive publicity.

If you could specify an optimal size of post, perhaps on a sliding scale, inversely related to the perceived silliness of the question, I will do my best to oblige. :roll_eyes:

I was not being negative. I admit to enjoy a good read and Mike, your’s are among my favourites.

I have no idea whom this girl is and do not, at the moment, have the freedom to click on the link.
But if you do devise some formula for calculating post size, please tell me.