viscountseat + unicycle handle?

i’m about to splash out and buy a unicycle handle, i have a viscount seat

has anybody got any hints?

it looks like i’m going to do an airseat conversion too,
while i’m hacking my seat to peices i may as well make the most of it

how exactly should i bolt the handle on ?

i’ve read in the rec.sport.unicycling archives that
george barnes uses self tapping screws on viscount seats
(despite the fact that that he probably knows much more about it than me i’m sceptical)
i’d love to stand corrected though ,i’d make my life so much easier
how did these seats stand up? george?

having thought and searched the archives about it i recon that i could do the following

take the cover off the seat, carefully without damaging the foam.
dig a hole in the foam shaped like a bone (sort of)
drill holes for the handle and air seat valve
bolt the handle on with regular heavy duty bolts and washers
fill the hole with an inner tube enclosed in a cloth bag of some sort.
cover the inner tube with a layer of the foam kept from earlier
glue it back together,

however my concerns are:
the bolts for the handle could get loose and be impossible to tighten without
opening the seat up. any solutions?, ( i don’t have a welder)

or if i used self tapping screws, the bolts could bend the seat base and pop out
of thier newly
enlarged holes

will my seat look like a bag of potatos?
silly i know but i just recently got the new viscount seat and am loath destroy it.

will i drill the holes in the wrong places and feel realy silly?

or will i wonder how i ever survived without a unicycle handle and airseat conversion
on my trials uni and consequently spend ages doing it to my other unicycles?

thanks, i’m new to rec.sports.unicycling, it seems like a nice place.

i to will be getting a Reeder handle(this friday)

i’m also paranoid about drilling the hole correctly,i’ll be using a carbon plate too.i’ll probobly stare at it for 2 hours before i drill

i’m gonna drill one hole first,them the others after i make sure of the location…

i just wish the handles were allumium

You make it sound like a Viscount is a great seat, and to ruin it would be a crime against humanity. I use the viscount on my 20" and my giraffe, BECAUSE I dont care if it gets messed up. Good luck with your conversion though.
-David Kaplan

Some thoughts:

Consider the cover homogenious with the foam. It will not be coming off in one piece, nore will it ever be usefull for covering a seat once removed.

Leave as much foam as you can stand along the edge of the seat- compressing the tube down to the frame at this point is easy and no fun after 10 miles of riding.

Make the pillow biger than you need, then tailor so that the overlaping sections of tube mesh.


BTW: The Miyata seat has a tighter arc than the Viscount- I find it puts pressure on the front side of the abdomin. How does this effect controll?

Christopher

It’s not really that bad. Take your time and do it carefully, but you won’t
screw up! My plate was already drilled for a Miyata handle and I reused one
of the holes (the front one) so just drilled two new ones. The more I use
the Reeder handle, especially on insane downhills, the more I like it.

I’ve ordered everything I need to set up my brake with it. Eyeballing it, it
appears that it should work, but I won’t know for sure until everything is
put together.

—Nathan

“jagur” <forum.member@unicyclist.com> wrote in message
news:a2o00j$ll3$2@laurel.tc.umn.edu
> i to will be getting a Reeder handle(this friday)
>
> i’m also paranoid about drilling the hole correctly,i’ll be using a carbon
plate too.i’ll probobly stare at it for 2 hours before i drill
>
> i’m gonna drill one hole first,them the others after i make sure of the
location…
>
> i just wish the handles were allumium

Has anyone tried putting a Gemcrest seat cover on a Viscount seat base?
(http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=254)

The Viscount seat base is a little longer and a little wider than the Miyata seat base so the Gemcrest cover might not fit well. But if it does fit OK, it would make for a better air seat cover than trying to reuse the Viscount cover.

john_childs

Are there adult and child versions of the Miyata seat? I think my Viscount is just as long (if not longer) than Lewis’s Miyata- including the handle. While I like this length, it is wide in all the wrong places.

Christopher

There are different sized Miyata seats.

There are at least two sizes nowadays. I’ve only seen the smaller size
on
their 16" unicycles though. They aren’t much smaller, but it’s
noticeable
and pretty nice for small kids (say age 5-7 or so).

—Nathan

“rhysling” <forum.member@unicyclist.com> wrote in message
news:a2p2it$sj9$1@laurel.tc.umn.edu
> Are there adult and child versions of the Miyata seat? I think my
Viscount is just as long (if not longer) than Lewis’s Miyata- including
the
handle. While I like this length, it is wide in all the wrong places.
>
> Christopher

In article <a2o00j$ll3$3@laurel.tc.umn.edu>, UniDak
<forum.member@unicyclist.com> wrote:
>
> You make it sound like a Viscount is a great seat, and to ruin it
would be a crime against humanity. I use the viscount on my 20" and my
giraffe, BECAUSE I dont care if it gets messed up. Good luck with your
conversion though.
> -David Kaplan

i’m only worried because i’m a cheapskate and would hate to have to buy
a new seat at £25 (or whaterver it was)
the reason i’m going to rip it up inthe first place is because it is
less than ideal, however a less than ideal seat is still significantly
better than a completly useless one.
and i like things to be just right