Viscount seat problems

One of my friends is having problems with his Viscount seat screws
coming undone.

A couple of my viscount seats have epoxy resin or similar for the screws to
screw into. I bought them like that but presumably it is possible to do this
yourself. Has any one had experience with this and if so what kind of substance
do you use?

Peter

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Re: Viscount seat problems

Loctite. Medium strength Loctite threadlocker. If you go by colors the medium
strength threadlocker is “Blue” 242.

I use the blue Loctite on small bolts like the bolts under the seat or the bolts
that hold the bearing holder on. Any bolt that could come loose on me gets
Loctited. The bolts that I neglect to Loctite inevitably eventually come loose
on me during a ride.

The blue stuff is strong enough for almost all small bolts on a uni. The high
strength red 271 Loctite is good for things like keeping a loose pedal on or
keeping a giraffe sprocket from coming undone.

If the bolt is oily, greasy or dirty clean the bolt before using the Loctite.
Dirty bolts won’t Loctite very well.

You can usually find Loctite at an auto parts store or a well stocked
hardware store.

In a pinch you can also use nail polish to keep a bolt from coming undone by
vibration. Nail polish isn’t as strong as Loctite but is strong enough for
some uses where bolts come loose due to vibration. On my bike I have used
clear nail polish on the bolts that hold the water bottle cage on and also on
shoe cleat bolts.

john_childs

>From: Peter Bier <peter_bier@usa.net>
>
>One of my friends is having problems with his Viscount seat screws
>coming undone.
>
>A couple of my viscount seats have epoxy resin or similar for the screws to
>screw into. I bought them like that but presumably it is possible to do this
>yourself. Has any one had experience with this and if so what kind of substance
>do you use?
>
>Peter
>
>
> o o Peter Bier o O o Juggler, unicyclist and mathematician.
>o/|\o peter_bier@usa.net
>

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Re: Viscount seat problems

It seems that I misread the question the first time I read it. You wrote
“screws” and I read “bolts”. The Viscount bumper screws are more of a problem
than the seat bolts. Loctite won’t help with the bumper screws.

I once tried using some type of thick caulk in the bumper screw hole to give the
screw something to bite into. But that didn’t work very well. The bumper screws
still pulled out along with some of the caulk. Maybe there is a better type of
caulk for this, but whatever I used didn’t work.

Once a screw comes loose the only thing I have found that works is to find some
larger diameter sheet metal screws that are the same length as the original
screws and replace the old skinny screws.

john_childs

>From: Peter Bier <peter_bier@usa.net>
>
>One of my friends is having problems with his Viscount seat screws
>coming undone.
>
>A couple of my viscount seats have epoxy resin or similar for the screws to
>screw into. I bought them like that but presumably it is possible to do this
>yourself. Has any one had experience with this and if so what kind of substance
>do you use?
>
>Peter
>
>
> o o Peter Bier o O o Juggler, unicyclist and mathematician.
>o/|\o peter_bier@usa.net
>

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Re: Viscount seat problems

On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Leo White wrote:
>All the Viscount saddles I’ve had have bumper screws tapping into a whole in a
>metal tab. The bumper screws provided on them are invariably too skinny - buy
>wider self-tapping screws and either just screw them in with a lot of force or
>widen the hole a smidgen, then screw them in tightly.

I had to do this on the Viscount saddle on my Coker. Knocked the rear bumper
loose and found that the screw wouldn’t fit tight. I just used the next size
larger screw (same length) and it found some metal to thread into. Apparently
the stock screw goes through the hole in the metal into some sort of a resiliant
block, but it isn’t strong enough to hold the bumper. If you use a larger screw,
it screws into the seat base and is much more secure.

Greg

Re: Viscount seat problems

Just out of curiosity, how many times did you all drop or bonk or otherwise
mishandle your viscount seats before the bolts started to get loose? It seems
like it’s a common problem and I’m taking notes, just in case.

Re: Viscount seat problems

It depends on which batch of seats you have, some come loose from new and some
do not come loose ever - there is a big variation. When I go to conventions I
take a pack of the lager screws with me and do running repairs.

Roger

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Viscount seat problems

> Just out of curiosity, how many times did you all drop or bonk or otherwise
> mishandle your viscount seats before the bolts started to get loose? It seems
> like it’s a common problem and I’m taking notes, just in case.

Re: Viscount seat problems

On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, hidden7 wrote:
>Just out of curiosity, how many times did you all drop or bonk or otherwise
>mishandle your viscount seats before the bolts started to get loose? It seems
>like it’s a common problem and I’m taking notes, just in case.

Not much, maybe 5-6 good drops. All it takes is a little force the wrong
direction and those screws pop right out.

Greg