To anyone who has one, I guess this goes out especially to the group of
riders that are travelling all through Europe this summer. What is your
opinion on the custom built Coker? Is it worth it to spend the money? Any
responses would be great. TIA.
Aj
>To anyone who has one, I guess this goes out especially to the group of
>riders that are travelling all through Europe this summer. What is your
>opinion on the custom built Coker? Is it worth it to spend the money? Any
>responses would be great. TIA.
I have a custom Coker. The only part that is original is the spokes, rim,
and tire. I have ridden much at all on a stock Coker so I am not the
person to make that comparison.
The custom frame is really nice, it is much stronger than the original
Coker frame. It cost me quite a bit more to go custom but I’m not sure if
it really is that much better when comparing it to a stock Coker frame.
Even so, I’m glad I spent the money. With the custom frame, I use the
Miyata bearing holders.
The nicest thing on my Coker is the extension or handle. I can now see my
cycle computer just by looking down and the break shifter is also right
there. I sometimes put weight on the handle to give myself a bit of a
break and pull up on it when going up steep hills. The extension is beefer
tubing than the rest of the uni and the falls that I have had haven’t
damaged it. The handle can go on the custom Coker frame or the stock Coker
frame. O’sells powder coats the handle for a more durable finish.
Since April 1, I have done 1250 km. Training is so much easier on a Coker
rather than a 28 inch.
-Andy
Andy Cotter - Andy.Cotter@OutTech.com Unicycle Video “One Wheel - No
Limit” - http://www.tcuc.org/nolimit/ Twin Cities Unicycle Club -
http://www.tcuc.org European Unicycle Tour -
http://www.outtech.com/Unicycle/EUT/ International Unicycling Federation
jugglerjoe@webtv.net writes:
>
>To anyone who has one, I guess this goes out especially to the group of
>riders that are travelling all through Europe this summer. What is your
>opinion on the custom built Coker? Is it worth it to spend the money? Any
>responses would be great. TIA.
>
>Aj
>
Don’t go by me, but my brother John, going on the tour, said he is
hesitant about putting on the upgrade (it requires welding) bc he heard
that others are not happy about it. He’s away now, so he won’t be able to
add to this for ten days.
Andy, are you going to have your Coker in Toronto? I’d love to see it (and
maybe even give it a spin).
Is there any good reason for me to bring mine? It would be tough given the
dimensions of my (new) car, so I was planning to bring only my 20" trials
uni, my 24" Schwinn (for racing), and possibly my 20" Torker or the spin
cycle (the latter is really fun).
What unis are all of you out there planning to bring?
I wish I had a huge car!
David
Andy.Cotter@OutTech.com writes:
>I have a custom Coker. The only part that is original is the spokes, rim,
>and tire. I have ridden much at all on a stock Coker so I am not the
>person to make that comparison.
>
>The custom frame is really nice, it is much stronger than the original
>Coker frame. It cost me quite a bit more to go custom but I’m not sure if
>it really is that much better when comparing it to a stock Coker frame.
>Even so, I’m glad I spent the money. With the custom frame, I use the
>Miyata bearing holders.
>
>The nicest thing on my Coker is the extension or handle. I can now see
>my cycle computer just by looking down and the break shifter is also
>right there. I sometimes put weight on the handle to give myself a bit
>of a break and pull up on it when going up steep hills. The extension
>is beefer tubing than the rest of the uni and the falls that I have
>had haven’t damaged it. The handle can go on the custom Coker frame or
>the stock Coker frame. O’sells powder coats the handle for a more
>durable finish.
>
>Since April 1, I have done 1250 km. Training is so much easier on a Coker
>rather than a 28 inch.
> Don’t go by me, but my brother John, going on the tour, said he is
> hesitant about putting on the upgrade (it requires welding) bc he heard
> that others are not happy about it. He’s away now, so he won’t be able
> to add to this for ten days.
He may have been talking about me, but then there has been a
misunderstanding. I hit it once mounting with my foot and hurt it a little
bit. That has been the only problem so far and I actually think that the
extension is great. The handle helps a lot, the break and computer are in
a good position and it protects the uni.
I think I have the same setup as Andy, so I’m also going with a custom
frame. It’s really cool. The design is nice and it’s stiffer. The original
frame seems to be rather flexible. I don’t wanna say that the custom frame
is totally stiff, which may be impossible concerning the length of the
blades, but it definately is stiffer.
Andy, saying that falls haven’t damaged your extension, what do you mean?
I have had 3 or 4 falls so far and the powder coating came off a little
bit. It’s not too bad, but the are some scratches.
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What is the upgrade? I would love to see it. Is there anyone who could
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JFatSmokes@aol.com wrote:
>
> What is the upgrade? I would love to see it. Is there anyone who could
> post a link to a site where I can see the upgrade?
I believe his pics are at http://www.outtech.com/Unicycle/coker/
Chris
>Andy, saying that falls haven’t damaged your extension, what do you mean?
>I have had 3 or 4 falls so far and the powder coating came off a little
>bit. It’s not too bad, but the are some scratches.
I do have some scratches on the extension from the falls, much in the same
way that a seat bumper gets scratches when dropped. The metal on the
extension has not deformed.
-Andy
Andy Cotter - Andy.Cotter@OutTech.com Unicycle Video “One Wheel - No
Limit” - http://www.tcuc.org/nolimit/ Twin Cities Unicycle Club -
http://www.tcuc.org European Unicycle Tour -
http://www.outtech.com/Unicycle/EUT/ International Unicycling Federation
>Andy, are you going to have your Coker in Toronto? I’d love to see it
>(and maybe even give it a spin).
I will have my Coker in Toronto. I will be doing some training rides
during that week. Right after Nationals is finished, I will be heading to
Europe for the ride.
>What unis are all of you out there planning to bring?
Most years I end up bringing three of four unis. This year, I’m only
bringing two, my 20" and my Coker.
-Andy
Andy Cotter - Andy.Cotter@OutTech.com Unicycle Video “One Wheel - No
Limit” - http://www.tcuc.org/nolimit/ Twin Cities Unicycle Club -
http://www.tcuc.org European Unicycle Tour -
http://www.outtech.com/Unicycle/EUT/ International Unicycling Federation
Andy, If you are only bringing two unis, wouldn’t that be your Carbon MUni
and your Telford?
—Nathan
<Andy.Cotter@OutTech.com> wrote in message
news:1740420016414171450945@OutTech.com…
>
> >Andy, are you going to have your Coker in Toronto? I’d love to see it
> >(and maybe even give it a spin).
>
> I will have my Coker in Toronto. I will be doing some training rides
> during that week. Right after Nationals is finished, I will be heading
> to Europe for the ride.
>
> >What unis are all of you out there planning to bring?
>
> Most years I end up bringing three of four unis. This year, I’m only
> bringing two, my 20" and my Coker.
>
> -Andy
Greetings
In message “RE: upgraded cokers”, Andy.Cotter@OutTech.com wrote…
>
>>To anyone who has one, I guess this goes out especially to the group of
>>riders that are travelling all through Europe this summer. What is your
>>opinion on the custom built Coker? Is it worth it to spend the money?
>>Any responses would be great. TIA.
>
>I have a custom Coker. The only part that is original is the spokes,
>rim, and tire. I have ridden much at all on a stock Coker so I am not
>the person to make that comparison.
This all sounds very nice and I would really like to get one. I wonder if
it is lighter than the normal Coker, and if there is less pain when riding
long distances.
Andy, what do you think is the ideal crank length? I can’t subject myself
to the torture of the mascoichists who use 4" cranks 
I have been using
5.5". I tried 5" but don’t feel too secure and have to work harder
climbing hills.
>The custom frame is really nice, it is much stronger than the original
>Coker frame. It cost me quite a bit more to go custom but I’m not sure
>if it really is that much better when comparing it to a stock Coker
>frame. Even so, I’m glad I spent the money. With the custom frame, I use
>the Miyata bearing holders.
>
>The nicest thing on my Coker is the extension or handle. I can now see
>my cycle computer just by looking down and the break shifter is also
>right there. I sometimes put weight on the handle to give myself a bit
>of a break and pull up on it when going up steep hills. The extension
>is beefer tubing than the rest of the uni and the falls that I have
>had haven’t damaged it. The handle can go on the custom Coker frame or
>the stock Coker frame. O’sells powder coats the handle for a more
>durable finish.
>
>Since April 1, I have done 1250 km. Training is so much easier on a
>Coker rather than a 28 inch.
>
>-Andy
>Andy Cotter - Andy.Cotter@OutTech.com Unicycle Video "One Wheel - No
>Limit" - http://www.tcuc.org/nolimit/ Twin Cities Unicycle Club -
>http://www.tcuc.org European Unicycle Tour -
>http://www.outtech.com/Unicycle/EUT/ International Unicycling Federation
>- Director
>
Stay on top, Jack Halpern, IUF Vice President Website:
http://www.kanji.org
, Andy.Cotter@OutTech.com wrote…
>>Andy, saying that falls haven’t damaged your extension, what do you
>>mean? I have had 3 or 4 falls so far and the powder coating came off a
>>little bit. It’s not too bad, but the are some scratches.
I have not followed the discussions too closely, so I may be asking the
wrong question. Is the upgraded Coker available as ready-made, or do
you need to order it customized to your specifications. I definitely
want to get one.
I wonder, is it lighter than the normal Coker?
Regards, Jack Halpern President, The CJK Dictionary Institute, Inc.
http://www.cjk.org Phone: +81-48-473-3508
>In message “RE: upgraded cokers”, Andy.Cotter@OutTech.com wrote…
> >
> >>To anyone who has one, I guess this goes out especially to the group
> >>of riders that
>are
> >>travelling all through Europe this summer. What is your opinion
>on
> >>the custom built Coker? Is it worth it to spend the money? Any
>responses
> >>would be great. TIA.
> >
> >I have a custom Coker. The only part that is original is the
>spokes,
> >rim, and tire. I have ridden much at all on a stock Coker so I am
>not
> >the person to make that comparison.
>
>This all sounds very nice and I would really like to get one. I wonder if
>it is lighter than the normal Coker, and if there is less pain when
>riding long distances.
From doing informal tests on weight, I don’t see much differance between
the custom and the stock Coker. The wheel and rim are so heavy that by
having a lighter frame doesn’t really make much of a differance.
As for less pain on the seat. Compared to the 28", I don’t take much fewer
breaks. Others who switched to a Coker from a 28" have said the same
thing. Having the right seat for you is really important. I use a carbon
fiber seat with neoprene. I even cut out a notch in the middle of the foam
to make the seat more ‘guy friendly’. So far my record for not getting off
is 40k (24 miles) (I did rest now and then by hanging on to something). My
record for not getting off or touching anything (no breaks what-so-ever)
is 30k (18 miles).
>Andy, what do you think is the ideal crank length? I can’t subject
>myself to the torture of the mascoichists who use 4" cranks I have
>been using
>5.5". I tried 5" but don’t feel too secure and have to work harder
> climbing hills.
I’m still not sure about the ideal crank length. I have 125mm (5 inch) on
my Coker. But, Tammy Marsh has switched from 5" to 5 1/2" and doesn’t have
any problem with speed and it gives her more leverage on hills. Right now
my advice would be for people who want to get into distance riding is to
start with 5 1/2" cranks and after they become comfortable with the Coker,
play around with 5" or shorter. If you are going for shorter cranks, I
would suggest some sort of drag break. But then again, if you build up
your muscles and are really comfortable riding the Coker, a drag break may
not even be needed.
-Andy
Andy Cotter - Andy.Cotter@OutTech.com Unicycle Video “One Wheel - No
Limit” - http://www.tcuc.org/nolimit/ Twin Cities Unicycle Club -
http://www.tcuc.org European Unicycle Tour -
http://www.outtech.com/Unicycle/EUT/ International Unicycling Federation
>Andy.Cotter@OutTech.com wrote…
> >>Andy, saying that falls haven’t damaged your extension, what do
>you
> >>mean? I have had 3 or 4 falls so far and the powder coating came off a
> >>little bit. It’s not too bad, but the are some scratches.
>
>I have not followed the discussions too closely, so I may be asking the
>wrong question. Is the upgraded Coker available as ready-made, or do
>you need to order it customized to your specifications. I definitely
>want to get one.
The custom Coker is made for your leg length. Although, Paul at Osells
will sometimes make the seat tube longer so the person can cut it off to
their length.
As for cost, mine cost over $1000. I don’t have an exact figure as I used
some of my own parts and I had the chroming done at a later stage. It is
my most expensive uni (so far). But, the usage ratio (cost/riding time) is
pretty good as I am on it a lot. So far, the best usage ratio of all my
unicycles is my 20" as on average I ride it the most throughout the year
(over 15 hours a week).
-Andy
Andy Cotter - Andy.Cotter@OutTech.com Unicycle Video “One Wheel - No
Limit” - http://www.tcuc.org/nolimit/ Twin Cities Unicycle Club -
http://www.tcuc.org European Unicycle Tour -
http://www.outtech.com/Unicycle/EUT/ International Unicycling Federation
>Andy, If you are only bringing two unis, wouldn’t that be your Carbon
>MUni and your Telford?
With all the long distance unicycle training I’m doing this year, I
haven’t had a chance to do much MUni. Since it would be a shame to have a
Telford sitting in the garage collecting dust, I have loaned it out to a
MUni enthusiast in our club. He is getting much better with his MUni
skills and he is planning on bringing it to Nationals.
-Andy
Andy Cotter - Andy.Cotter@OutTech.com Unicycle Video “One Wheel - No
Limit” - http://www.tcuc.org/nolimit/ Twin Cities Unicycle Club -
http://www.tcuc.org European Unicycle Tour -
http://www.outtech.com/Unicycle/EUT/ International Unicycling Federation
> From doing informal tests on weight, I don’t see much differance between
> the custom and the stock Coker. The wheel and rim are so heavy that by
> having a lighter frame doesn’t really make much of a differance.
But if that equal weight includes the underseat bars and all the other
equipment you’ve added, it sounds like a nice improvement.
> record for not getting off is 40k (24 miles) (I did rest now and then by
> hanging on to something). My record for not getting off or touching
> anything (no breaks what-so-ever) is 30k (18 miles).
A long way to go to challenge the Takayuke Koike record of 100 miles
without a dismount (on a heavy 43" air tire uni)!
> >Andy, what do you think is the ideal crank length? I can’t subject
> >myself to the torture of the mascoichists who use 4" cranks I have
> >been using
> >5.5". I tried 5" but don’t feel too secure and have to work harder
> climbing hills.
It’s definitely a matter of taste, and also a matter of your riding
distance and environment. If you ride shorter distances, in a more urban
area with more obstacles and traffic, definitely longer cranks are needed.
If you ride long distances, and in areas with little to worry about, you
can get away with much shorter ones. I still have the original 6.5" cranks
on my 45" wheel, and I can’t imagine using shorter ones. I think 5.5"
would be a good compromise on a Coker between speed and control, though I
personally might be more comfortable with 6".
John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone jfoss@unicycling.com www.unicycling.com
“Someone who thinks logically is a nice contrast to the real world.”
> From doing informal tests on weight, I don’t see much differance between
> the custom and the stock Coker. The wheel and rim are so heavy that by
> having a lighter frame doesn’t really make much of a differance.
But if that equal weight includes the underseat bars and all the other
equipment you’ve added, it sounds like a nice improvement.
> record for not getting off is 40k (24 miles) (I did rest now and then by
> hanging on to something). My record for not getting off or touching
> anything (no breaks what-so-ever) is 30k (18 miles).
A long way to go to challenge the Takayuke Koike record of 100 miles
without a dismount (on a heavy 43" air tire uni)!
> >Andy, what do you think is the ideal crank length? I can’t subject
> >myself to the torture of the mascoichists who use 4" cranks I have
> >been using
> >5.5". I tried 5" but don’t feel too secure and have to work harder
> climbing hills.
It’s definitely a matter of taste, and also a matter of your riding
distance and environment. If you ride shorter distances, in a more urban
area with more obstacles and traffic, definitely longer cranks are needed.
If you ride long distances, and in areas with little to worry about, you
can get away with much shorter ones. I still have the original 6.5" cranks
on my 45" wheel, and I can’t imagine using shorter ones. I think 5.5"
would be a good compromise on a Coker between speed and control, though I
personally might be more comfortable with 6".
John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone jfoss@unicycling.com www.unicycling.com
“Someone who thinks logically is a nice contrast to the real world.”
> From doing informal tests on weight, I don’t see much differance between
> the custom and the stock Coker. The wheel and rim are so heavy that by
> having a lighter frame doesn’t really make much of a differance.
But if that equal weight includes the underseat bars and all the other
equipment you’ve added, it sounds like a nice improvement.
> record for not getting off is 40k (24 miles) (I did rest now and then by
> hanging on to something). My record for not getting off or touching
> anything (no breaks what-so-ever) is 30k (18 miles).
A long way to go to challenge the Takayuke Koike record of 100 miles
without a dismount (on a heavy 43" air tire uni)!
> >Andy, what do you think is the ideal crank length? I can’t subject
> >myself to the torture of the mascoichists who use 4" cranks I have
> >been using
> >5.5". I tried 5" but don’t feel too secure and have to work harder
> climbing hills.
It’s definitely a matter of taste, and also a matter of your riding
distance and environment. If you ride shorter distances, in a more urban
area with more obstacles and traffic, definitely longer cranks are needed.
If you ride long distances, and in areas with little to worry about, you
can get away with much shorter ones. I still have the original 6.5" cranks
on my 45" wheel, and I can’t imagine using shorter ones. I think 5.5"
would be a good compromise on a Coker between speed and control, though I
personally might be more comfortable with 6".
John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone jfoss@unicycling.com www.unicycling.com
“Someone who thinks logically is a nice contrast to the real world.”
> From doing informal tests on weight, I don’t see much differance between
> the custom and the stock Coker. The wheel and rim are so heavy that by
> having a lighter frame doesn’t really make much of a differance.
But if that equal weight includes the underseat bars and all the other
equipment you’ve added, it sounds like a nice improvement.
> record for not getting off is 40k (24 miles) (I did rest now and then by
> hanging on to something). My record for not getting off or touching
> anything (no breaks what-so-ever) is 30k (18 miles).
A long way to go to challenge the Takayuke Koike record of 100 miles
without a dismount (on a heavy 43" air tire uni)!
> >Andy, what do you think is the ideal crank length? I can’t subject
> >myself to the torture of the mascoichists who use 4" cranks I have
> >been using
> >5.5". I tried 5" but don’t feel too secure and have to work harder
> climbing hills.
It’s definitely a matter of taste, and also a matter of your riding
distance and environment. If you ride shorter distances, in a more urban
area with more obstacles and traffic, definitely longer cranks are needed.
If you ride long distances, and in areas with little to worry about, you
can get away with much shorter ones. I still have the original 6.5" cranks
on my 45" wheel, and I can’t imagine using shorter ones. I think 5.5"
would be a good compromise on a Coker between speed and control, though I
personally might be more comfortable with 6".
John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone jfoss@unicycling.com www.unicycling.com
“Someone who thinks logically is a nice contrast to the real world.”
> From doing informal tests on weight, I don’t see much differance between
> the custom and the stock Coker. The wheel and rim are so heavy that by
> having a lighter frame doesn’t really make much of a differance.
But if that equal weight includes the underseat bars and all the other
equipment you’ve added, it sounds like a nice improvement.
> record for not getting off is 40k (24 miles) (I did rest now and then by
> hanging on to something). My record for not getting off or touching
> anything (no breaks what-so-ever) is 30k (18 miles).
A long way to go to challenge the Takayuke Koike record of 100 miles
without a dismount (on a heavy 43" air tire uni)!
> >Andy, what do you think is the ideal crank length? I can’t subject
> >myself to the torture of the mascoichists who use 4" cranks I have
> >been using
> >5.5". I tried 5" but don’t feel too secure and have to work harder
> climbing hills.
It’s definitely a matter of taste, and also a matter of your riding
distance and environment. If you ride shorter distances, in a more urban
area with more obstacles and traffic, definitely longer cranks are needed.
If you ride long distances, and in areas with little to worry about, you
can get away with much shorter ones. I still have the original 6.5" cranks
on my 45" wheel, and I can’t imagine using shorter ones. I think 5.5"
would be a good compromise on a Coker between speed and control, though I
personally might be more comfortable with 6".
John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone jfoss@unicycling.com www.unicycling.com
“Someone who thinks logically is a nice contrast to the real world.”