UniHoki Rule Clarification - Contact with opponent's stick.

According to rule 6.1 of the IUF Rules for Unicycle Hockey (sic)

We’ve interpreted this rule to mean that in the moment of addressing the ball, you’re allowed to lift the opponent’s stick over the ball, making it impossible for him to play the ball and allowing you to take possession.
Once you’ve done so, he is no longer ‘addressing the ball’ and you have to release his stick immediately.
We also understand that you’re not allowed to ride alongside a player while still approaching the ball and engage his stick to prevent him from even attempting to play the ball.

We’re discovering more and more grey areas in this interpretation of the rule and some ‘needle’ is creeping into some of our games as a result.
To help us sort this out, I’d like to ask for your interpretation of this rule to get an idea of it’s implementation in other leagues/clubs.

Send word.

I tend to agree with your definition. You can play your opponents stick while thay are playing the ball (which can be quite funny if they don’t see you coming :slight_smile: ) but while they are not playing the ball it is pretty unsporting.

I think we generally play that if you hack someone and they’re nowhere near the ball, that’s naughty, as is hacking straight down hard on someone’s stick, but hooking them up or blocking them if they’re playing the ball or just about to play the ball is fair game.

Joe

Re: UniHoki Rule Clarification - Contact with opponent’s stick.

oh…
over here in derby, UK we allow ‘off ball’ stick lifting, hacking and
hooking. if too players are riding side by side heading for the ball
there is plenty of jostling and stick contact to ensure your stick gets
to the ball first… hooking someone elses stick to prevent them from
reaching the ball when you have nooooo chance of getting there is
frowned upon and considered simply ‘bad form, old bean’
we do try to play in the spirit of the rules and not to the letter of
rules…

at this point i shall point out, before my fellow players in derby
point out, i am a cheating fouling git and record the most number of
fouls, and even try to develop new and cunning ways of fouling.

GILD wrote:
> According to rule 6.1 of the IUF Rules for Unicycle Hockey (sic)
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> > ‘You may touch an opponent’s stick with your stick to block him.
> > However, this contact may not be hard’
> > (http://www.mpch-mainz.mpg.de/~sander/uni/iuf_03e.html#6.1).
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> We’ve interpreted this rule to mean that in the moment of adressing the
> ball, you’re allowed to lift the opponent’s stick over the ball, making
> it impossible for him to play the ball and allowing you to take
> posession.
> Once you’ve done so, he is no longer ‘adressing the ball’ and you have
> to release his stick immediately.
> We also understand that you’re not allowed to ride alongside a player
> while still approaching the ball and engage his stick to prevent him
> from even attempting to play the ball.
>
> We’re discovering more and more grey areas in this interpretation of
> the rule and some ‘needle’ is creeping into some of our games as a
> result.
> To help us sort this out, I’d like to ask for your interpretation of
> this rule to get an idea of it’s implementation in other
> leagues/clubs.
>
> Send word.
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Very thoughtfull of you to raise this to save time and effort for the rest of us :slight_smile:

Seems like we’re on the same page.
We’re now also frowning on ‘hooking and holding’. Which is pretty much covered in the previous discussions.

Good to know about the style of play in Derby.
Does Andy Parry spend a lot of time off the pitch serving 2 minute suspensions for intentional fouls?

I don’t think I have ever seen him sent off for intentional fouls, not even ones commited when the ball is out of play.

He does get sent to ride laps of the pitch on a fairly regular basis though, another example of us playing in the spirit of the rules rather than to the letter of the rules.

Plumsie

To be fair to Parry, I think like most of us he doesn’t usually purposefully foul, he’s just a bit bad at paying attention to where people’s wheels and his stick are. Although he has got the all time record of 6 subs in a game.

I certainly don’t purposefully foul and I’m second on the foul pie chart anyway, so I can’t talk.

We send people on a lap of the pitch if they do a high stick, because high sticks are the fouls with the most ouch potential.

Joe

Re: UniHoki Rule Clarification - Contact with opponent’s stick.

> Good to know about the style of play in Derby.
> Does Andy Parry spend a lot of time off the pitch serving 2 minute
> suspensions for int’entional fou’
> (http://www.mpch-mainz.mpg.de/~sander/uni/iuf_03e.html#6.5)ls?

we have a slight variation on the sinbin rule…
anyone commits a high stick has to do a lap of the pitch, i guess this
could be extended to ‘conduct not befitting a gentleman’… the penalty
lap is always marked with a corus of
“Arrrhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh GET ROUND!”
play contunes whilst the offender is making their lap.

I love the ‘lap-of-the-pitch’ idea.
And while I do enjoy some of the ‘spirit of the rules not the letter’ ideas that have been mentioned on this thread, I am trying to find the most commonly applied version of the rules for us to get used to playing to.
We’re totally keen to get ourselves over there for a full-on international game. (Or get you pound-earning fat-cats to come to the third world.)
It won’t be in Ireland this year, unfortunately. But it will hopefully be soon.

Standarising the rules will also be crucial for getting into the Olympics.
And for as much of a pipe-dream as you may want to tell me that is, you cant tell me that you wouldn’t love to be able to call yourself an Olympic UniHoki player?

To save andy the time - we would not even consider calling ourselves UniHoki players and would be shocked and insulted to be described as such. Unicycle Hockey players may be, but the other description will not pass my key board again

I know, I know, and I was really looking forward to settling this issue once and for all in Ireland this year, but alas.

In real hockey if the player is nowhere near the ball and you are hitting their stick its called interference and it can be a penalty. When they have the ball (puck - whatever) then you do pretty much as you like as long as it is not too wild or violent.

David

Coming from a sport with a ‘position’ called ‘The Enforcer’, that’s a bit vague for me I’m afraid.

I’m assuming when you say ‘real’, you mean ‘ice’, not ‘field’?

I reckon every so often we should just have a game with ice hockey rules, checking allowed, fights are okay as long as there’s no third player involved.

Joe

Re: UniHoki Rule Clarification - Contact with opponent’s stick.

what…

that’s how i thought we where playing!?!

and while we’re on the subject of rules…
what do other people do about playing the ball with ones hand
is batting the ball up/down field with an open hand seen as fair
play, or should the hands be used mearly to palm the ball downwards,
back into usual stick play?

joemarshall wrote:
> I reckon every so often we should just have a game with ice hockey
> rules, checking allowed, fights are okay as long as there’s no third
> player involved.
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If you read your link the enforcer is really more of a role, haha. I was talking about ice hockey and what I meant by not too violent/wild was if you are just hitting their stick off the ball or trying to hit the ball but hit their accidentally its okay. But if you are using a lot of force and trying to not the stick out of their hands or break their stick (excessive force) thats what you have to watch out for.

I want to play this sometime. I’ve played a lot of hockey both ice and street but never uni.

David

From the IUF rules

You must make a plan. It is the greatest fun you can have with your clothes on and on a unicycle.

Futher to the ‘playing the ball with the hand’ issue.
I read somewhere that it must be directed down.
Bear in mind that the main reason this rule was instituted was to make it possible to play at a high ball without lifting the stick.

One of our players can’t get online and wants his 5c chucked into this discussion as well.
He’s of the opinion that the main emphasis when approaching the ball with the stick should be to play the ball and that any thoughts of playing the opponents stick should be considered foul.

FWIW, in ice hockey a player is allowed to catch and drop the puck (even whilst in motion). The puck can not be thrown or passed with the hand… it must be played by the stick immediately after dropping it… unless a defender manages to get to it first.

Rulewise, is UniHoki played more like field or ice hockey? I’m most familiar with ice hockey, but if ice rules aren’t so applicable, then I’ll shaddup and read the manual :slight_smile: