How does everyone out there in this group feel about skateboarding? or Unicycling in agressive ways. Is it a crime to grind on a railing or kerb if you are going to scratch it up a bit??
arnt public places for everyone to enjoy… that includes skaters, they pay taxes like eveyone else they should have rights too.
Re: Unicycling/Skateboarding is not a crime
> arnt public places for everyone to enjoy… that includes skaters, they
> pay taxes like eveyone else they should have rights too.
By damaging commonly owned property, you are reducing the
ability of others to enjoy it. This is selfish and irresponsible.
A commonplace in UK rental agreements is that “fair wear
and tear” is acceptable to borrowed property. I think something
similar should be your attitude to public places - everything wears
out through use in time, just don’t contribute more than your fair
share of wear.
This is why I believe the sequence in ‘Universe’ where the guys
play on the Fremont Troll should have been left out. The stuff that
appears to be an industrial museum is also questionable…
It also depends what the public property is. Defacing a statue is
(to most people) a lot worse than defacing a kerb, so judgement
is required.
My advice: go to a skate park for grinding.
Arnold the Aardvark
Re: Unicycling/Skateboarding is not a crime
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> How does everyone out there in this group feel about skateboarding? or
> Unicycling in agressive ways. Is it a crime to grind on a railing or
> kerb if you are going to scratch it up a bit??
>
I reckon a lot depends on what ‘a bit’ means.
I’d say never grind painted metal or wood because that’s detrimental to
anyone else using it, like grinding wooden benches means the next person who
sits down there with shorts on gets splinters in their legs. Normal plain
metal railings it doesn’t look like it does that much harm to me so I
wouldn’t be that fussed.
Same goes for grabbing up to walls and stuff, if it looks like you’ll be
taking chunks out of the bricks then find another one that isn’t so soft.
I reckon kerbs are fair game if you’ve got high enough ones.
Pity there’s no grind plates for unicycles though, that’d cut down the
damage pretty well.
Joe
Re: Unicycling/Skateboarding is not a crime
> How does everyone out there in this group feel about skateboarding? or
> Unicycling in aggressive ways. Is it a crime to grind on a railing or
> curb if you are going to scratch it up a bit?
It depends on how the owner of the curb and/or railing feels about it. My
feeling is that grinding on concrete or steel is fine, but that wood and
paint go pretty fast, but that’s completely unsubstantiated subjective
worthless personal opinion, honest.
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> > Productive activity
> > that destroys other peoples’ stuff is a no-no. When you can tell the
> > difference, you’re ready to ride (or skate) in public places.; John
> > Foss (from a previous thread)
Here we agree, but grinding on concrete or steel doesn’t ‘destroy’ it.
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> aren’t public places for everyone to enjoy… that includes skaters, they
> pay taxes like everyone else they should have rights too.
Yep, as long as skaters don’t ruin it for other people…
RE: Unicycling/Skateboarding is not a crime
> How does everyone out there in this group feel about skateboarding? or
> Unicycling in agressive ways. Is it a crime to grind on a railing or
> kerb if you are going to scratch it up a bit??
Checkernuts is not yet ready to ride (or skate) in public places.
> > Productive activity
> > that destroys other peoples’ stuff is a no-no. When you can tell the
> > difference, you’re ready to ride (or skate) in public places.; John
> > Foss (from a previous thread)
> arnt public places for everyone to enjoy… that includes
> skaters, they pay taxes like eveyone else they should have
> rights too.
You need to focus on the difference between “use” and “damage.” Normal wear
and tear on a concrete bench is not a lot of big black marks all along the
edge of it. This makes it look dirty and ugly (maybe not to you, but to the
majority of people who use it, IMHO). If the edge is being ground off the
bench, this is even worse. This does not constitute normal use. To me it is
destruction of property. It’s not nearly as bad as grafitti, but it’s in the
same general category.
There is nothing wrong with skating or unicycling in public places, though
there are times and places where it is rightfully prohibited for safety
reasons. Both a skateboard or a unicycle can get away from the user and
injure someone, especially in a crowded place. That’s why public places have
rules. Just as the public has the right to “use” the space, it also has the
right to use it in safety.
In general, I think there are two “best” places for grinding and other
activities that cause undue wear & tear. A skate park, and your own
property. I wish more skate parks would let unicycles in…
Stay on top,
John Foss
President, Unicycling Society of America
President, International Unicycling Federation
jfoss@unicycling.com
Hi,
I actually was just watching a skate video titled “is skateboarding a crime” last night where they compared skate parks to concetration camps. Kind of a weird comparison, but they now use our local skatepark as an excuse to ban any type of skateboarding (including just riding around) downtown and on campus.
People don’t want their property damaged or destroyed and this should be respected. Some people see breaking or damaging stuff as some kind of accomplishment. When you are riding you should do you best to avoid damaging whatever you are riding on. Some store owners will even let you grind their rails, as long as it is after hours. Try not to grind on anything that you will dig into, like plastic or wood. Don’t act surpised if people kick you out if you are abusing their property either. There are public places besides skateparks where it is more accepted to grind and use the property. Find places where it is less damaging and safer to ride.
Skateparks are good places to practice grinding, especially on ledges and flat boxes, though unicyclists are sometimes kicked out of these places as well.
I’m suprised someone picked out the troll as a section that should have been left out of universe. There are definitly things worse in the video, like Kris and the flowers or Adam and the trash can. Nothing was done to damage the troll, no grinding, or pedal grabs. People climb all over the troll and use it for whatever.
BTW, There actually are grind plates for unicycles. Mike Clark came up with the idea and has put a few together which he is testing out.
-Dan
grindin on a skate board
well most of the time, i see not really chips but wax. the wax is for slidin, i usually dont see alot of chips on concrete,. But skateboards, most of the time they do like noeslides, and stuff, on walls, that shouldnt really chip the wall, because most lieky the wheels will get in the way of teh trucks hitting the concrete. But i think that riding is not a crime, as along as you dont hurt someone or totaly chip the hell out of somthing. later