unicycles & dogs ?

I do know unicycles attracts little kids, but why on earth do almost every
dog who pass by gets crazy, barks and try to pursue me ?!?

It happened again yesterday : while I was trying to hop up a pile of
rocks, a poodle (correct orthograph ?) dog escaped his master on the main
road, ran to me, climbed the rocks and tried to bite my leg :slight_smile: And it’s
not the first time it happens.

I’m really wondering if dogs dont like my face, or unicycles for some
reason make them angry ?

Oli-

opaugamATaptilonDOTcom !

The only problem I see is how to dismount in certain situations without
hurting the dog (well I’m speaking about small dogs, such as the poodle
dog yesterday) - especially when I’m on an obstacle :slight_smile:

Oli-

-----Original Message----- From: Nycjoe@aol.com [mailto:Nycjoe@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 11:18 AM To: unicycling@winternet.com
Subject: Re: unicycles & dogs ?

To a “Nervous” type dog, anything unusual is threatening, and a unicycle
can be pretty unusual. Same principle when some people see you coming and
they immediately back away, as though you might suddenly lose all control
and mow them down.

I ride with my two big dogs every day to the Park, where I practice amidst
dozens of loose dogs. Over the course of riding in the last year, I’ve
probably ridden amongst hundreds of dogs and probably 1 in 50 exhibits the
nervous spastic tendency. However these are jaded New York City dogs :slight_smile:

Once a dog feels scared of you, they may be reluctant even when you
dismount. Kind of makes you feel like a space alien. Don’t take it
personally.

Joe

In a message dated 6/28/01 9:27:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
opaugam@aptilon.com writes:

> I do know unicycles attracts little kids, but why on earth do almost
> every dog who pass by gets crazy, barks and try to pursue me ?!?
>
> It happened again yesterday : while I was trying to hop up a pile of
> rocks, a poodle (correct orthograph ?) dog escaped his master on the
> main road, ran to me, climbed the rocks and tried to bite my leg :slight_smile:
> And it’s not the first time it happens.
>
> I’m really wondering if dogs dont like my face, or unicycles for some
> reason make them angry ?
>
> Oli-

To a “Nervous” type dog, anything unusual is threatening, and a unicycle
can be pretty unusual. Same principle when some people see you coming and
they immediately back away, as though you might suddenly lose all control
and mow them down.

I ride with my two big dogs every day to the Park, where I practice amidst
dozens of loose dogs. Over the course of riding in the last year, I’ve
probably ridden amongst hundreds of dogs and probably 1 in 50 exhibits the
nervous spastic tendency. However these are jaded New York City dogs :slight_smile:
Once a dog feels scared of you, they may be reluctant even when you
dismount. Kind of makes you feel like a space alien. Don’t take it
personally.

Joe

In a message dated 6/28/01 9:27:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
opaugam@aptilon.com writes:

> I do know unicycles attracts little kids, but why on earth do almost
> every dog who pass by gets crazy, barks and try to pursue me ?!?
>
> It happened again yesterday : while I was trying to hop up a pile of
> rocks, a poodle (correct orthograph ?) dog escaped his master on the
> main road, ran to me, climbed the rocks and tried to bite my leg :slight_smile:
> And it’s not the first time it happens.
>
> I’m really wondering if dogs dont like my face, or unicycles for some
> reason make them angry ?
>
> Oli-

Olivier Paugam wrote:

> I do know unicycles attracts little kids, but why on earth do almost
> every dog who pass by gets crazy, barks and try to pursue me ?!?
>
> It happened again yesterday : while I was trying to hop up a pile of
> rocks, a poodle (correct orthograph ?) dog escaped his master on the
> main road, ran to me, climbed the rocks and tried to bite my leg :slight_smile: And
> it’s not the first time it happens.
>
> I’m really wondering if dogs dont like my face, or unicycles for some
> reason make them angry ?
>
> Oli-
>
> opaugamATaptilonDOTcom !

I have noticed this as well. I think it is anologous to the human
reaction. Some people will look a a cycle and it doesn’t register. Only
the curious or the smart ones respond. So the dog that notices you is the
one that is smart enough to realize that what it is seeing for the first
time is not “right” somehow. So it barks. Smart dog.

On the human side, i rode down an alley by a lawn party. A little girl
screamed, “mommy, mommy, look, a unicycle !” i crossed a paved road and
continued up a connecting alley that had a steep hill. On the hill i
switched to wheel walking. Now my back was to the little girl (so she
couldn’t see my legs) and i was about 150 feet away. I heard her scream,
“mommy, mommy, look ! He’s going up the hill, and he’s …(in a tone of
extreme disbelief), he’s not even pedalling!!.”

Now that’s smart. This little girl already had the foundation of the law
conservation of energy well established in her very young, very
analytical mind.

Yeah, I’ve had a dog “go” me… just idling in a park, I was. I
jumped/fell off.

For me it was a combination of the uni, and my almost pathological fear of
dogs… the sure can smell/sense it!!!

The other thing I find really interesting (and cute) is how really
little kids look and look and look and look when you go by on a uni. It’s
strange that even the tiniest of toddlers (seriously under 1 year old)
still realize that this is something unusual… and they are not
neccessarily getting any reinforcement in this direction from their
parent, etc.

dude

(Original post by Oli below) Hello I’ve had many different dog-encounters.
I know (sometimes after talking to the owners, who knows the dog and its
reactions, dogs do have very different peronality!) dogs that have been
afraid, happy, confused or angry… Just like those humans we all meet.
(Isn’t it amazing so many look like they don’t like the fact that we ride
on one wheel)

It’s easy to say the unicycle should look like a regular bike to a dog,
with a wheel and your pedaling motion. I, personally, think the dogs
actually see that there is something unusual, something “wrong”. Humans
often respond to this by looking incredibly stupid, but dogs often react
to “surprises” like there is something that could be threatening them. (Or
am I wrong? I’m no dog expert).

Small dogs seems to be more eager to pursue us than bigger ones. Of course
we might seem bigger to these dogs, thus making them more upset, but
shouldn’t they think twice before attacking something bigger than
themselves? A simple answer could be the small dogs are stupid, in my
opinion they often are :slight_smile:

From my experience, unicycling produce a stronger reaction from the dog if
you go a bit wobbly and with your arms out from your body (like most of us
probably do on gravel and dirtroads) . If you, on the other hand, ride
smooth and with folded arms, an agressive reaction seems to be less
likely. Maybe we simply look scary, towering above the poor little dog
with waving arms (?) and quick movements.

At last; it is well known dogs can react with hostility on people bending
over them with their teeth shown (the people’s teeth, that is). Therefore,
a hostile reaction reaction might not be so strange, caused by that big
smile constantly on our faces produced by the very joy of unicycling! :slight_smile:

Think positive: This dog agression affair might at least be a good reason
for us offroad unicyclists to get proper leg armour. Happy unicycling!

Staffan Palm Stockholm, Sweden

> I do know unicycles attracts little kids, but why on earth do almost
> every dog who pass by gets crazy, barks and try to pursue me ?!?
>
> It happened again yesterday : while I was trying to hop up a pile of
> rocks, a poodle (correct orthograph ?) dog escaped his master on the
> main road, ran to me, climbed the rocks and tried to bite my leg :slight_smile: And
> it’s not the first time it happens.
>
> I’m really wondering if dogs dont like my face, or unicycles for some
> reason make them angry ?
>
> Oli-

Re dogs and unicycles, yesterday Beau was riding his giraffe around at the
school yard and a little tiny dog ran straight over to him and started
barking very loudly non-stop. Beau was terrified that if he fell, the dog
would bite him, but also the dog kept running almost under the wheel. Then
the owner (an older woman) came running over and started screaming at the
dog louder than it was barking. I expected Beau to crash, but he kept
dodging the dog and finally got away. He was shaken up though. No we don’t
really like dogs (except this one pair of bulldogs that live near
Sacramento).

—Nathan

> barking very loudly non-stop. Beau was terrified that if he fell, the
> dog would bite him, but also the dog kept running almost under the
> wheel. Then

When I was first riding, back in the giraffe days with Bradley Bradley,
his 70 lb sheep dog Misty would always try to bite the whitewall tire when
we rode it. This was bad, as we were beginners and didn’t know how to rock
or go backwards yet. So she had to basically learn by getting her head
partially run over…

> No we don’t really like dogs (except this one pair of bulldogs that live
> near Sacramento).

Oh, you have to say that because you stay at their house sometimes. But
don’t ride your unicycle in the house. Bailey-er, ahem, one of those dogs
tends to get somewhat “amorous” when you do that…

Stay on top, John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone jfoss@unicycling.com
www.unicycling.com

“Our time is a most precious commodity, but it’s how we spend it that
makes us rich.” - John Foss

Ha ! Another uni-dog adventure in Montreal this weekend : I was trying to
hop up my way in a steep section of the trail when two big,friendly “saint
bernard” dog (the ones with small whisky barrels in the mountains) came
down and started playing around my wheel - I had to stand still on the
incline with the dogs sniffing the wheel and generally trying to lick my
legs while the owner was delighted by such a view.

No dog was hurt in the process.

Oli-

-----Original Message----- From: Staffan Palm
[mailto:staffanpalm@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 3:02 PM To:
unicycling@winternet.com Subject: Re: unicycles & dogs ?

                   (Original post by Oli below) Hello I've had many
                   different dog-encounters. I know (sometimes after
                   talking to the owners, who knows the dog and its
                   reactions, dogs do have very different peronality!)
                   dogs that have been afraid, happy, confused or
                   angry.... Just like those humans we all meet.
                   (Isn't it amazing so many look like they don't like
                   the fact that we ride on one wheel)

It’s easy to say the unicycle should look like a regular bike to a dog,
with a wheel and your pedaling motion. I, personally, think the dogs
actually see that there is something unusual, something “wrong”. Humans
often respond to this by looking incredibly stupid, but dogs often react
to “surprises” like there is something that could be threatening them. (Or
am I wrong? I’m no dog expert).

Small dogs seems to be more eager to pursue us than bigger ones. Of course
we might seem bigger to these dogs, thus making them more upset, but
shouldn’t they think twice before attacking something bigger than
themselves? A simple answer could be the small dogs are stupid, in my
opinion they often are :slight_smile:

From my experience, unicycling produce a stronger reaction from the dog if
you go a bit wobbly and with your arms out from your body (like most of us
probably do on gravel and dirtroads) . If you, on the other hand, ride
smooth and with folded arms, an agressive reaction seems to be less
likely. Maybe we simply look scary, towering above the poor little dog
with waving arms (?) and quick movements.

At last; it is well known dogs can react with hostility on people bending
over them with their teeth shown (the people’s teeth, that is). Therefore,
a hostile reaction reaction might not be so strange, caused by that big
smile constantly on our faces produced by the very joy of unicycling! :slight_smile:

Think positive: This dog agression affair might at least be a good reason
for us offroad unicyclists to get proper leg armour. Happy unicycling!

Staffan Palm Stockholm, Sweden

> I do know unicycles attracts little kids, but why on earth do almost
> every dog who pass by gets crazy, barks and try to pursue me ?!?
>
> It happened again yesterday : while I was trying to hop up a pile of
> rocks, a poodle (correct orthograph ?) dog escaped his master on the
> main road, ran to me, climbed the rocks and tried to bite my leg :slight_smile: And
> it’s not the first time it happens.
>
> I’m really wondering if dogs dont like my face, or unicycles for some
> reason make them angry ?
>
> Oli-

Ha ! Another uni-dog adventure in Montreal this weekend : I was trying to
hop up my way in a steep section of the trail when two big,friendly “saint
bernard” dog (the ones with small whisky barrels in the mountains) came
down and started playing around my wheel - I had to stand still on the
incline with the dogs sniffing the wheel and generally trying to lick my
legs while the owner was delighted by such a view.

No dog was hurt in the process.

Oli-

-----Original Message----- From: Staffan Palm
[mailto:staffanpalm@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 3:02 PM To:
unicycling@winternet.com Subject: Re: unicycles & dogs ?

                   (Original post by Oli below) Hello I've had many
                   different dog-encounters. I know (sometimes after
                   talking to the owners, who knows the dog and its
                   reactions, dogs do have very different peronality!)
                   dogs that have been afraid, happy, confused or
                   angry.... Just like those humans we all meet.
                   (Isn't it amazing so many look like they don't like
                   the fact that we ride on one wheel)

It’s easy to say the unicycle should look like a regular bike to a dog,
with a wheel and your pedaling motion. I, personally, think the dogs
actually see that there is something unusual, something “wrong”. Humans
often respond to this by looking incredibly stupid, but dogs often react
to “surprises” like there is something that could be threatening them. (Or
am I wrong? I’m no dog expert).

Small dogs seems to be more eager to pursue us than bigger ones. Of course
we might seem bigger to these dogs, thus making them more upset, but
shouldn’t they think twice before attacking something bigger than
themselves? A simple answer could be the small dogs are stupid, in my
opinion they often are :slight_smile:

From my experience, unicycling produce a stronger reaction from the dog if
you go a bit wobbly and with your arms out from your body (like most of us
probably do on gravel and dirtroads) . If you, on the other hand, ride
smooth and with folded arms, an agressive reaction seems to be less
likely. Maybe we simply look scary, towering above the poor little dog
with waving arms (?) and quick movements.

At last; it is well known dogs can react with hostility on people bending
over them with their teeth shown (the people’s teeth, that is). Therefore,
a hostile reaction reaction might not be so strange, caused by that big
smile constantly on our faces produced by the very joy of unicycling! :slight_smile:

Think positive: This dog agression affair might at least be a good reason
for us offroad unicyclists to get proper leg armour. Happy unicycling!

Staffan Palm Stockholm, Sweden

> I do know unicycles attracts little kids, but why on earth do almost
> every dog who pass by gets crazy, barks and try to pursue me ?!?
>
> It happened again yesterday : while I was trying to hop up a pile of
> rocks, a poodle (correct orthograph ?) dog escaped his master on the
> main road, ran to me, climbed the rocks and tried to bite my leg :slight_smile: And
> it’s not the first time it happens.
>
> I’m really wondering if dogs dont like my face, or unicycles for some
> reason make them angry ?
>
> Oli-

nathan@movaris.com writes:
>Re dogs and unicycles, yesterday Beau was riding his giraffe around at
>the school yard and a little tiny dog ran straight over to him and
>started barking very loudly non-stop. Beau was terrified that if he fell,
>the dog would bite him, but also the dog kept running almost under the
>wheel. Then the owner (an older woman) came running over and started
>screaming at the dog louder than it was barking. I expected Beau to
>crash, but he kept dodging the dog and finally got away. He was shaken up
>though. No we don’t really like dogs (except this one pair of bulldogs
>that live near Sacramento).
>
>—Nathan
Well, I’m not too fond of most dogs, either, really, but it’s the owners
that I really detest. On my way to work each day, I have to pass thru a
part of the bike path frequented by many dog walkers. I’d say that about
60% of the dogs are off the leash despite the law against it and despite
the signs and despite the many bikers (and me) passing them at decent
speeds. I’m on my Coker at a clip of about 12-14mph, so if Poochy happens
to dartle out, I really can’t do anything safe. It’s never happened,
luckily, but I s’pose that if it did, I’d try to slow down and maybe jump
off, but I would not do anything that could endanger me or any other
person. I certainly don’t want to ride over some chihuahua – it’s not the
dog’s fault that its owner is an idiot – but I certainly care a lot more
about my own safety than that of a dog’s. Perhaps the best solution in
that emergency scenario would be to aim for the owner.

There is one thing I do whenever I see these dog walkers whose dogs are
off the leash: I shake my index finger at them and say, “Dog off a leash
– BAD dog owner, BAD dog owner!”

David Stone