What is this? Whenever I post on this site it goes onto that site also. I was google searching my name on here (mercyme) and I got results for that website. I have never posted on there but somehow they have my posts on that site. Is that site connected to this site or something.
yep, they’re kind of connected… unicyclist.com/forums actually isn’t the main forum, the main one is rec.sport.unicycling, it’s a newsgroup. I don’t really understand it very well, but someone who does like John_Childs will post here soon (:
but I do know that it’s a good way to post on unicyclist.com forums if your school has blocked the site. or cyclingforums.com.
I noticed the same thing a while back but thought nothing of it
OK, that gives a little history. Here’s more:
Rec.sport.unicycling is a usenet newsgroup. Usenet is a bunch of discussion groups that are distributed across a large network. Your ISP probably provides you with access to usenet newsgroups, but most people are unfamiliar with them, unlike the WWW.
The unicycling discussion list started in 1993 just as an email mailing list. Then in 1995 rec.sport.unicycling was formed and the email list and newsgroup were connected together. Unicyclist.com was started in 2000 and only provided free email and webspace. In 2001, I added the forums, which linked to rec.sport.unicycling. At that time, not many people posted via unicyclist.com, but it opened the discussion group up to a lot of people that would’ve never found the usenet version and over the course of a year, the volume of posts skyrocketed (for better or worse ;)). And now we’re at a point where probably 99% of the posts are made via unicyclist.com as many people that used to post via the newsgroup switched over and unfourtunately some even disappeared (probably due to volume and more chatty posts, or maybe it’s just the regular cycle of people coming and going).
As for unicycle-forum.com, that’s just a site pulling the usenet postings and from the looks of it, they are trying to get search engines to pick it up and result in people going to the site so they can get ad revenue.
Next question:
What is this , and how many ever signed up for that? I never did.
To me it just looks like an old rip from unicycling.org’s roster.
That’s not cool if it’s a rip of the unicycling.org roster. If it’s a rip of the roster it’s at least a couple of years old because I’m not on their list (I am in the unicycling.org roster). They also don’t obfuscate the email addresses listed. It would be easy for a spambot to harvest all of them. Unicycling.org hides all the email addresses.
Looks like an old harvest of the roster, before it was database driven. So, from before 2000. The domain was registered on 14-Aug-1999.
Any lawyers here want to send them a letter?
Whois info for, unicycles.net:
Registrant:
Unicycles.Net
27 Scott St.
Kitchener, Ontario N2H 2P8
CA
Domain name: UNICYCLES.NET
Administrative Contact:
Administrator, Domain [email]internic-admin@emerge2.com[/email]
554 Parkside Dr.
Waterloo, Ontario N2L 5Z4
CA
519-886-0100
Technical Contact:
Support, DNS [email]internic-tech@emerge2.com[/email]
554 Parkside Dr.
Waterloo, Ontario N2L 5Z4
CA
519-886-0100
Registration Service Provider:
Emerge2 Digital Inc., [email]internic-tech@emerge2.com[/email]
http://www.emerge2.com
This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords,
DNS/Nameserver changes, and general domain support questions.
Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 15-Jul-2004.
Record expires on 14-Aug-2005.
Record created on 14-Aug-1999.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.EMERGE2.COM 199.166.210.154
NS2.EMERGE2.COM 199.166.210.184
off topic
Sorry about this, but Gilby since you are on, can we talk about me being able to have a photo gallery on unicyclist.com Thanks.
Are databases of names copyrightable? You can’t copyright things like a phonebook.
Got any references for that? Although I could see how a phone book is public domain (you are where you live, your phone is your phone number), but exact words and sentences would be copyrightable.
Databases (a collection of information) are tricky things for copyright protection. Here’s two articles about copyright protection for databases:
Beyond Copyright: Protecting Databases
Database Legal Protection
I’m no lawyer and know very little about this. We covered this briefly when I took business law, but that’s it.
You can’t copy an entire database. But it seems to be OK to copy parts of it and reformat or reorganize the data under certain situations.
Re: off topic
Use this: http://gallery.unicyclist.com/free4all
Under European law only having (without publishing) a database like that particular one is illegal, especially cause it has many minors it (COPPA law).
Hmmm, -possible- might be fixed cheaper and faster: use the search button and find out I’ve been tryieng to put atention on this case earlier
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It is VERY unlikely all unicyclist on that roster signed up theirself.
An ASP error here gaved me the url of the include which brought me to this one where you can read the login/password…
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Anything and everything on the web is copyrighted. All content, doesn’t work the same with forums. a DB should work the same. But theres no way they can just rip that content out of a database. They could take it one by one, but that would be a pain. Unless of course it was a FF db, but thats just stupid. Im sure they had permission. It isn’t worth going through the trouble. If you think theres a problem, send an email to them. Theyll tell you whats up.
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Everything on the web gets the benefit of copyright protection to whatever extent copyright protects it. There are things that you can’t copyright. You can’t copyright facts and you can’t copyright a list of facts. If a database is nothing but a list of facts then it doesn’t get as much copyright protections as a purely creative work.
I’m not saying that the list on that site is good, bad, legal, illegal. Just that it may not have as much copyright protection as you initially expect.
Not true. If you look at the way the roster is organised, you’ll see that if you display a country or state you can copy all information at once.
I was the fourth Dutch unicyclist to register on the roster. But I’m not in that rip-off site. So either they set it up completely separate (in which case Leo’s and anyone else’s data on there were NOT copied from the roster, can you confirm Leo?), or they started out as a rip-off before I submitted my data to the roster, and some people have volunteered their data directly to that other site afterwards.
Klaas Bil
I have not been using that e-mail address (mention at my entry) since august 2000.