Uni for 7 yr old

My son wants to learn how to ride a unicycle. I hate to spend too much until I
know its something he will stick with. The last thing I need is an expensive
garage ornament. So far, I haven’t had any luck at local garage sales or bike
stores. I did find a new 20" Schwinn at a bike store, but they wanted something
like $150. There was an almost new 16" uni advertised on this list for $110 a
couple of days ago, but that is still more than I planned to pay. Tell me if I’m
being unrealistic thinking I can get a used kids unicycle for under $50. It has
been 25 years since I bought a unicycle…

Anybody have a kids unicycle they would like to get out of their garage or know
of a place where I can find one cheap?

Another option might be if someone had one I could borrow or rent for a few
weeks. We live near Salina, Kansas.

Any suggestions are welcomed!

Thanks.

RE: Uni for 7 yr old

I would not buy a Schwinn for a 7 year old, they are way too heavy. Unicycles
are very rarely available used. If you watch for 5 years you might find a cheap
Taiwanese uni for under $50. If he is tall enough for a 20 don’t buy a 16. A 16
is strictly a short term proposition. I suggest buying a new one such as a
Semcycle XL. If he doesn’t stick with it, it will have excellent resale.
Caution: you can ride it too, you soon might need to buy another.

    ----------
    From: Troy Harding[SMTP:troyh@diamond.kwu.edu] Sent: Friday, July 10,
    1998 10:03 AM To: Unicycling mailing list Subject: Uni for 7 yr old

    My son wants to learn how to ride a unicycle. I hate to spend too much
    until I know its something he will stick with. The last thing I need is
    an expensive garage ornament. So far, I haven't had any luck at local
    garage sales or bike stores. I did find a new 20" Schwinn at a bike
    store, but they wanted something like $150. There was an almost new 16"
    uni advertised on this list for $110 a couple of days ago, but that is
    still more than I planned to pay. Tell me if I'm being unrealistic
    thinking I can get a used kids unicycle for under $50. It has been 25
    years since I bought a unicycle...

    Anybody have a kids unicycle they would like to get out of their garage
    or know of a place where I can find one cheap?

    Another option might be if someone had one I could borrow or rent for a
    few weeks. We live near Salina, Kansas.

    Any suggestions are welcomed!

    Thanks.

Re: Uni for 7 yr old

>Anybody have a kids unicycle they would like to get out of their garage or know
>of a place where I can find one cheap?

Ditto Troy… My daughter (7yrs) is interested, too. ANy help would be
appreciated

Hugh Allison


also hallison@fmtc.net evenings and weekends

RE: Uni for 7 yr old

Troy Harding wrote:
>still more than I planned to pay. Tell me if I’m being unrealistic thinking I
>can get a used kids unicycle for under $50. It has been 25 years since I bought
>a unicycle…

To all prospective buyers: Beware of cheap unicycles! A unicycle must have ball
bearings on the wheels, a three piece crank and an inflatable tire. If any of
those key things are missing, you will be throwing away even the smallest amount
of money on a purchase.

Go to this web page:
http://www.unicycling.org/unicycling/Unidb/qdesc/models.html and have a look
at the Troxel. You will see pictures of the unicycle I originally learned on,
back in the 70’s. Don’t know why I still have it, other than to warn others to
stay away! A unicycle like this is at least three times more difficult to
learn to ride on.

It took me about a month to be able to ride it in a straight line. My mistake
was learning to turn, which caused it to fall apart and become unusable.

These days, if it’s under $80 (new, in the U.S.), it’s probably not worth
it. Used unicycles can be found, but you can never seem to find one when you
need one. You’ve come to the right place to look, though.

My suggestion would be to get one of the “good” brands. Then, no matter what

happens, it will have resale value. It will also have a market, right here.

But between your son and yourself, ride it a few times around the block before
you give up, and you’ll never regret it!

John Foss http://www.calweb.com/~unifoss/

Re: Uni for 7 yr old

In a message dated 7/10/98 8:07:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
troyh@diamond.kwu.edu writes:

<< Tell me if I’m being unrealistic thinking I can get a used kids unicycle for
under $50. It has been 25 years since I bought a unicycle. >>

J.C. Penny has a 16" in their catalog for $45 plus shipping. It is pretty
good for a kid’s uni. It comes with two poles for learning to ride. The
inner tube is pneumatic. The first thing I did was switch out the tube
to a standard.

Good luck!

-Mike UniChef@aol.com http://members.aol.com/UniChef/unichef.html

RE: Uni for 7 yr old

UniChef wrote:
>J.C. Penny has a 16" in their catalog for $45 plus shipping. It is pretty good
> for a kid’s uni. It comes with two poles for learning to ride. The inner
> tube is pneumatic.

Is that a Headstrom? I forgot to mention in my previous rant to stay away from
unicycles that come with poles. Learning to ride with poles can leave you with
bad riding posture, which must be un-learned later. Plus there is the danger of
implaement.

But Mike, you are satisfied with this model? If I remember correctly, these have
a one-piece (tricycle style) crank and no ball bearings. At least they have a
proper air tire.

>The first thing I did was switch out the tube to a standard.

A standard what?

Please tell us more about this unicycle, and your experiences with it. I’m
interested in building up a database of brands and rider experiences to
eventually create a rating system of unicycle quality…

Thanks,

jf

Re: Uni for 7 yr old

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Hey Troy, don’t be fooled, there are good uni’s around. You just have to look.
Try running an ad in your local paper, “Used Unicycles Wanted”. Check out your
local swap meets. For app: $80 you can purchase a new Taiwanese (I think that’s
how you spell it) uni from most any bicycle shop. They go under the name Cycle
Pro. There’'re by no means the best but will be more than adequate to learn on.
It’s much better than that department store thing, which is just too much
torcher for the youngster! The inflatable 20" wheel is a good size and the seat
will take the abuse of being pounded into the ground (as will inevitably happen

  • many times). If you teach him not to be too abusive with it (throwing it into
    the wall in fustration), it will get him through that tough stage. About 15
    years ago I found one just like this at a garage sale for $10, taught myself how
    to ride it, and it’s still perfectly rideable. The cottered cranks aren’t even
    loose! After he learns to ride, you can purchase a better one for him. It would
    be a great thing for both of you to do together (uni hunting). Be patiant and
    keep your eyes and ears open. If your buying a used one check that the frame’s
    not bent, check that the wheel is relatively still round, and most importantly
    make sure the cranks are tight and not walloed loose. If the cranks are loose,
    and it’s been ridden much, skip it and go on to the next one (too expensive of a
    repair). Hope some of this helps, Mike

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My son wants to learn how to ride a unicycle. I hate to spend too much until I
know its something he will stick with. The last thing I need is an expensive
garage ornament. So far, I haven’t had any luck at local garage sales or bike
stores. I did find a new 20" Schwinn at a bike store, but they wanted something
like $150. There was an almost new 16" uni advertised on this list for $110 a
couple of days ago, but that is still more than I planned to pay. Tell me if I’m
being unrealistic thinking I can get a used kids unicycle for under $50. It has
been 25 years since I bought a unicycle…

Anybody have a kids unicycle they would like to get out of their garage or know
of a place where I can find one cheap?

Another option might be if someone had one I could borrow or rent for a few
weeks. We live near Salina, Kansas.

Any suggestions are welcomed!

Thanks.

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Re: Uni for 7 yr old

In a message dated 98-07-10 12:02:50 EDT, you write:

<< To all prospective buyers: Beware of cheap unicycles! A unicycle must have
ball bearings on the wheels, a three piece crank and an inflatable tire. If any
of those key things are missing, you will be throwing away even the smallest
amount of money on a purchase.
>>
The uni I was talking about from JC Penny fits the bill…

Re: Uni for 7 yr old

Pogo Sticks! Ha, Just got me to reminiscing. How many of you guys remember the
gasoline powered pogo stick? Quite a concept as I remember. The pogo was
connected to the piston. When you jumped you had compression, it fired and gave
you a much higher jump. It came out sometime in the mid 60’s. Rather short lived
and dangerous as I remember. Think I’ll stick with my uni, Mike

Re: Uni for 7 yr old

In a message dated 7/10/98 9:27:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
johnx.foss@intel.com writes:

<< Is that a Headstrom? I forgot to mention in my previous rant to stay away
from unicycles that come with poles. Learning to ride with poles can leave you
with bad riding posture, which must be un-learned later. Plus there is the
danger of implaement.<

> But Mike, you are satisfied with this model? If I remember correctly,
these have a one-piece (tricycle style) crank and no ball bearings. At least
they have a proper air tire.<

Yes it has ball bearings in the cranks. If you read my story at
http://www.unicycling.org/unicycling/tales/funi.html you will see that I could
never, in good conscious, reccomend one of those one piece units!

>>The first thing I did was switch out the tube to a standard.<<

>A standard what?<

A standard inner tube. It comes with a pneumatic tube. Don’t ask me what that
is, because the bike shop mechanic didn’t even know. The valve stem is different
and can’t be filled with a regular pump.

>Please tell us more about this unicycle, and your experiences with it.
I’m interested in building up a database of brands and rider experiences to
eventually create a rating system of unicycle quality…
>>

I think for the money, it is a good deal. Especially if it’s for a kid and
you’re not sure if they’ll take to it. I’ve even ridden it myself a bit.

As for the poles- don’t forget to recycle when you throw them away! I don’t use
the poles to teach the kids myself. I prefer the shopping cart method.

-Mike UniChef@aol.com http://members.aol.com/UniChef/unichef.html

RE: Uni for 7 yr old

>>Think first about WHY the 7 year old wants a unicycle? Was it HIS idea,
>{followed by very long analysis of why he might want one and what he might
>do with it}
>
>
>Gosh Steve, he’s only 7 years old. Probably the main thing going on in his head
>is that he wants a unicycle. The question (and worry) for dad is whether he
>will still want one next week…
>
>John Foss (didn’t learn til I was 17)

I’m with you John. My little girl (also 7) would like to learn- just because her
dad rides.

Hugh (didn’t learn til I was 34)


also hallison@fmtc.net evenings and weekends

Re: Uni for 7 yr old

>I ended up ordering a 20" Zephyr from Tom Miller for $75. I’m impressed with
>the unicycle. It sure beats the Sears model I had when I was a kid.
<snip>
>My 10 year old daughter (who showed little interest before I ordered it) got so
>excited about the unicycle when she saw it she offered to help her brother pay
>for his portion of the cost. Of course, my son was more than happy to save some
>money. So far they have been happy to take turns trying to ride it.
>
>After a few days of limited practice my daughter it starting to get the
>feel for it.
<snip>
>My 7 yr old son on the other hand is struggling a little more. He wants to
>learn so bad. Its going to kill him when his sister starts riding before him.

Sorry for such a long delay before replying to this message, but my little girl
(and my pocketbook) is now ready for a uni to learn on.

How tall is you daughter? How much does she weigh? My daughter (8 yrs this
November) is wanting to ride, but I think 20" tires might be too big for
her, though her new bike has 20" tires (can I even compare uni tires with
bike tires?)

Can you update me on the progress of your kids?

Thanks Hugh


also hallison@fmtc.net evenings and weekends

Re: Uni for 7 yr old

========================================================================
)–O GARAGE ORNAMENTS O–(

Hey Mike And Troy,

You’ve both opened a great topic of DI-scussion of UNI-versal interest; that of
“Garage Ornaments.”

Think first about WHY the 7 year old wants a unicycle? Was it HIS idea, or was
it YOUR’s dad? You said Troy that you bought (and most likely rode) a unicycle
25 years ago. Do you STILL have a unicycle (or as in John Foss’ case …
“THAT UNICYCLE”)? Do you still ride?

Does your kid think you’re the “Coolest Dad on The Block” as a result, and now
desperately wants his own? Does he see it as a circus prop or as potential fun
transportation? Or do you just think it would be cool for him to have one as you
had as a youth? We all had “Pogo Sticks” too once and mine still IS a garage
ornament!!! By the way, EVERYONE likes it and remembers how they too had one
… ONCE.

Either way, the kid should realize from the beginning that a unicycle is NOT a
circus prop, a toy, or a passing fad, to be used later as a “Garage Ornament.”
It should be explained to him instead (if he doesn’t already know) that a
unicycle is a “UNI-fectious Hobby” which, once contracted, will affect him in
unforseen creative and positive ways for the rest of his life! If the unicycle
purchase decision is handled properly wherein the kid participate
enthusiastically in the search process, perhaps even foregoes some of his
allowance to get it, and is then coached by an even more enthusiastic and proud
Dad, he’ll most likely go on to UNI-fect OTHERS throughout the course of his
enlightened existence.

Then one day, he might even pull a dusty old Taiwanese 20" off the wall of HIS
OWN GARAGE, and introduce it enthusiastically to his OWN 7 year old kid!

Incidentally, I was a late bloomer at the age of 9, and wish that I could have
started at a more proper age like 4 … like they do in Mainland Chinese
Acrobatic Troupes!

Finally, All my unicycle “Eagles” in Hong Kong learned happily, and even
UNI-fected classmates and friends on 20" Taiwanese Cycle Pro’s which held up
fine during the learning “Cycle -Pro” phase. Only later, did they get hungry for
a nice Miyata like the one I (their terminally UNI-fected Coach) ride and teach
upon. I’ve observed from among my 20+ students that the ones who went on to the
“Miyata-Phase” (aka “Schwinn Phase”) of this affliction did so willingly,
enthusiastically, and with THEIR OWN MONEY! Of the 9 who bought Miyatas in this
way, 7 are now “IUF Level 5” riders, and 6 are going to UNICON IX!

By the way, Troy … I’m curious to know what other “Ornaments” adorn
your garage?

Good luck to the both of you …Maybe you’ll one day ride
together in your local parade!

S.G. Dressler - The Unicycling Society of Hong Kong
)–/==============================================O

such as neighborscontinue to , and ! If you A first unicycle should be like any
first thing to a kid, something in which he has interest and desire, and
therefore something for which he would exert enthusiasm and effort to obtain,
and value later on.

would him, something which he

At 07:44 PM 7/10/98 -0700, Mike Payne wrote:
>Hey Troy, don’t be fooled, there are good uni’s around. You just have to look.
>Try running an ad in your local paper, “Used Unicycles Wanted”. Check out your
>local swap meets. For app: $80 you can purchase a new Taiwanese (I think that’s
>how you spell it) uni from most any bicycle shop. They go under the name Cycle
>Pro. There’'re by no means the best but will be more than adequate to learn on.
>It’s much better than that department store thing, which is just too much
>torcher for the youngster! The inflatable 20" wheel is a good size and the seat
>will take the abuse of being pounded into the ground (as will inevitably happen
>- many times). If you teach him not to be too abusive with it (throwing it into
>the wall in fustration), it will get him through that tough stage. About 15
>years ago I found one just like this at a garage sale for $10, taught myself
>how to ride it, and it’s still perfectly rideable. The cottered cranks aren’t
>even loose! After he learns to ride, you can purchase a better one for him. It
>would be a great thing for both of you to do together (uni hunting). Be patiant
>and keep your eyes and ears open. If your buying a used one check that the
>frame’s not bent, check that the wheel is relatively still round, and most
>importantly make sure the cranks are tight and not walloed loose. If the cranks
>are loose, and it’s been ridden much, skip it and go on to the next one (too
>expensive of a repair). Hope some of this helps, Mike
>
>
>
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>My son wants to learn how to ride a unicycle. I hate to spend too much until I
>know its something he will stick with. The last thing I need is an expensive
>garage ornament. So far, I haven’t had any luck at local garage sales or bike
>stores. I did find a new 20" Schwinn at a bike store, but they wanted something
>like $150. There was an almost new 16" uni advertised on this list for $110 a
>couple of days ago, but that is still more than I planned to pay. Tell me if
>I’m being unrealistic thinking I can get a used kids unicycle for under $50. It
>has been 25 years since I bought a unicycle…
>
>Anybody have a kids unicycle they would like to get out of their garage or know
>of a place where I can find one cheap?
>
>Another option might be if someone had one I could borrow or rent for a few
>weeks. We live near Salina, Kansas.
>
>Any suggestions are welcomed!
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Uni for 7 yr old

On Fri, 10 Jul 1998, Hugh Allison wrote:

> >Anybody have a kids unicycle they would like to get out of their garage or
> >know of a place where I can find one cheap?
>
> Ditto Troy… My daughter (7yrs) is interested, too. ANy help would be
> appreciated
>
> Hugh Allison
>
> -------------------------------
> also hallison@fmtc.net evenings and weekends
>
>

I ended up ordering a 20" Zephyr from Tom Miller for $75. I’m impressed with the
unicycle. It sure beats the Sears model I had when I was a kid.
Unfortunately, Tom said that he is probably going to quit selling
Zephyrs because there isn’t enough margin to make it worth his time. I hope
he changes his mind. This is a really nice unicycle for the price,
especially for kids.

My 10 year old daughter (who showed little interest before I ordered it) got so
excited about the unicycle when she saw it she offered to help her brother pay
for his portion of the cost. Of course, my son was more than happy to save some
money. So far they have been happy to take turns trying to ride it.

After a few days of limited practice my daughter it starting to get the feel for
it. She can get in about one rotation. For some reason she always takes her feet
off the pedals at about the same point. As her right foot hits the top and
starts to come down she takes it off the pedal and steps down. She looks like
she has her balance and is in good riding position. I think she just needs a
little more confidence. The 20" wheel seems to be just the right size for her.

My 7 yr old son on the other hand is struggling a little more. He wants to learn
so bad. Its going to kill him when his sister starts riding before him. He
probably would have a much easier time learning on a 16" unicycle. I cut 4
inches off of the seat post so that we can lower the seat all the way down. Even
now he could stand to have the seat a couple of inches lower, at least while he
is learning. I might try putting blocks on the pedals. Anybody ever tried this?

Off the subject, I was surprised to find I can still ride a unicycle after a 25
year layoff. Pretty amazing when you consider that my body has changed a lot
since I was a 10 yr old (although my wife would argue that I haven’t changed
much mentally.) I guess its true, once you learn to ride you never forget.

Re: Uni for 7 yr old

My 7 year old is about 4 ft tall. The 20" size is slightly too big for him. I
think he would have had a much easier time on a 16" wheel. He hasn’t
consistently been practicing, but he is still very interested. He just hasn’t
had a lot of success. Hopefully he’ll grow some this year and he’ll have better
luck next summer. I feel kind of bad because he’s the reason we bought the
unicycle. The good thing is that he will grow into this one and will have it
for a while.

My daughter, who is 10 yrs old, had some success. She could do about one and a
half to two revolutions before she would bale off. But she’s in so many
activities I don’t think she has even been on it since school started. The
unicycle is a good size for her, though.

On Thu, 17 Sep 1998, Hugh Allison wrote:

> >I ended up ordering a 20" Zephyr from Tom Miller for $75. I’m impressed with
> >the unicycle. It sure beats the Sears model I had when I was a kid.
> <snip>
> >My 10 year old daughter (who showed little interest before I ordered it) got
> >so excited about the unicycle when she saw it she offered to help her brother
> >pay for his portion of the cost. Of course, my son was more than happy to
> >save some money. So far they have been happy to take turns trying to ride it.
> >
> >After a few days of limited practice my daughter it starting to get the feel
> >for it.
> <snip>
> >My 7 yr old son on the other hand is struggling a little more. He wants to
> >learn so bad. Its going to kill him when his sister starts riding before him.
>
>
> Sorry for such a long delay before replying to this message, but my little
> girl (and my pocketbook) is now ready for a uni to learn on.
>
> How tall is you daughter? How much does she weigh? My daughter (8 yrs this
> November) is wanting to ride, but I think 20" tires might be too big for
> her, though her new bike has 20" tires (can I even compare uni tires with
> bike tires?)
>
> Can you update me on the progress of your kids?
>
> Thanks Hugh
>
> -------------------------------
> also hallison@fmtc.net evenings and weekends
>