ultimate wheel

hi,

now I ride my normal unicycle about 2.5 years and want to learn now to ride a ultimate wheel. What is the best wheelsize at the beginning ? What is easier to learn ?
:slight_smile: Who trials on a ultimate wheel ?

thanks
_Felix


god bless

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George Peck goes off-road on an ultimate wheel. He can roll up curbs. I don’t know if he does any hopping on the ultimate wheel. Amazing stuff.

MUni on an ultimate wheel… “yowsers” is all I can say.

Phil, just me

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zoiks!
What’s the easiest way to Learn ultimate wheeling? Just trying seat drags? or
should I just take my wheel off and try on that?

-Dylan

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extremeunicycler@aol.com writes:
>zoiks!
>What’s the easiest way to Learn ultimate wheeling? Just trying seat
>drags? or
>should I just take my wheel off and try on that?
>
>-Dylan

I found both of those WAY harder than riding an actual UW. The best way is
to get ahold of an UW and practice. It really makes a HUGE difference if
friction has been reduced, and the best way I have come across for this
(if you are using a new UW, for example), is to cover both sides of the
wheel with packing tape. I learned in about a half hour after I did this
– compared with many wasted hours before using the tape. David Bagley has
tried nail polish (clear, tho I am sure you could get creative). And there
are some tires that are really good for UWs. A kid in my club has a 26" UW
with a thin tire that’s just as good (without tape) as my taped 24" tire.

Other things NOT to bother trying:

  1. Packing tape on the legs of some ratty old pants – not really
    effective, and you might make the tape too tight.
  2. Spray-on silicone – doesn’t tend to dry, so it ruins whatever is
    covering your lower legs
  3. Learning to ride an UW while wearing shorts. Unless you like
    crescent-shaped scrapes on the really soft skin of the inside of your
    lower legs
  4. Learning on a fairly steep downhill – occasionally the UW will shoot
    out from you. The same goes for learning on a downhill that leads right
    into traffic.
  5. Be creative – tell us about some other bad things to avoid trying.

I tried all but #2 and can vouch for the waste-of-time-ness of the lot.

David Stone
Co-founder, Unatics of NY
1st Sunday / 3rd Saturday
@ Central Park Bandshell
1:30 start time after 11/1/01

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Yeah, that being creative stuff is for the birds… :wink:

How the hell do you mount the UW? Does everybody just lean on a fence?

Sofa,

Here is a video clip of Scott Bridgeman mounting an ultimate wheel.

http://muniac.com/videoclip.htm

Scroll down until you find the description and still photo.

Work the maze.

I can recomend 24’’ over 20’’ . I have tried a 20’‘, and found it alot harder. Maybe 26’’ is even better, but I haven’t tried that yet.

Borges

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> wheel with packing tape. I learned in about a half hour after
> I did this
> – compared with many wasted hours before using the tape.
> David Bagley has
> tried nail polish (clear, tho I am sure you could get
> creative). And there
> are some tires that are really good for UWs. A kid in my club
> has a 26" UW with a thin tire that’s just as good (without
> tape) as my taped 24" tire.

I put an old, dried out tire on my UW, and the first time I tried it out was
in a show. I was amazed to find myself riding it so long, I had to dismount
ON PURPOSE! That was a new concept for me. Ultraviolet light breaks down
tires so that they lose their grippiness in time. This tire was a pretty old
one, and the sides were nice and slick. It worked great!

But the reason why I can’t recommend this, is that you can’t ride this tire
indoors. The rubber is so UV’d out, you can put a bunch of weight on the
down pedal and then slide the thing sideways across the linoleum floor of
our gym. Oops. But if you only ride outdoors, this method will work fine…
:slight_smile:

JF

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> What is the best wheelsize at the beginning ?

I agree that a bigger wheel is probably easier, due to the fact that the
tire rubs your legs when learning. The bigger the wheel, the less angle and
pressure you’ll get against your legs.

The drawback of a bigger wheel is that it’s going to be heavier, and take up
more space.

I’ve seen professional performers on 24", 26" and 20" ultimate wheels doing
real good stuff. This guy:
http://www.unicycling.com/cgi-bin/genin.pl?=pictext/cccp.txt,11
is on a 26". He performed in the Ringling show later. Go to the “previous”
picture to see his UW next to a 20". Someday I would like to have an UW like
that. It’s lighter than my solid wood one, and I like the way it looks…

JF

hey,

thank you for the a great help !!
now I would try to ride a ultimate wheel…

@ John: A very cool picture. In the circus I have seen an ultimate wheel rider some years ago. At that time the artist drillet the ultimate wheel and jumped on it. After this he was rolling the uw in a big circle und jumped sometimes on it…great and very impressive (!!!)

thanks
_Felix


god bless

Re: ultimate wheel

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:36:39 -0500, Sofa
<Sofa.7571a@timelimit.unicyclist.com> wrote:

>How the hell do you mount the UW? Does everybody just lean on a fence?

Edwin Kuppens in the Netherlands is solid in two types of mounts which
could best be described as the equivalent of a jump mount and a
rolling mount.

Klaas Bil

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Greetings

In message “Re: ultimate wheel”,
Borges wrote…
>
>>
>> What is the best wheelsize at the beginning ? What is easier to learn
>> ?
>>
>
>I can recomend 24’’ over 20’’ . I have tried a 20’’, and found it alot
>harder. Maybe 26’’ is even better, but I haven’t tried that yet.

I have tried various sizes and I swear by 24" with 5.5" crank length.
Yuuichiro Kato, one of the top UW riders in the world, rides a 22".

Regards, Jack Halpern
President, The CJK Dictionary Institute, Inc.
http://www.cjk.org Phone: +81-48-473-3508

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Jack Halpern wrote:

> Greetings
>
> In message “Re: ultimate wheel”,
> Borges wrote…
> >[color=darkred]
> >>
> >> What is the best wheelsize at the beginning ? What is easier to learn
> >> ?
> i learned on a 26" and found it to be most accomodating…reason for me
> being the wheel hits up higher on the leg so i [feel anyway] that i have
> more control over the damn thing. Also, the longer cranks on the 26 let you
> do more rough terrain stuff like curbs and large gravel better. But it
> really comes down to a personal choice…whatever you have available and
> best suits your terrain and expectations…be advised, however, that once
> you learn at one size, a different size is almost a totally new experience.
> >
> >I can recomend 24’’ over 20’’ . I have tried a 20’’, and found it alot
> >harder. Maybe 26’’ is even better, but I haven’t tried that yet.
>
> I have tried various sizes and I swear by 24" with 5.5" crank length.
> Yuuichiro Kato, one of the top UW riders in the world, rides a 22".
>
> Regards, Jack Halpern
> President, The CJK Dictionary Institute, Inc.
> http://www.cjk.org Phone: +81-48-473-3508
>
> ___________________________________________________________________________
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I ride a gazzaloddi 26" x 3.0 UW

it does fine in rough terrain
when i ride, i wear Xtra Tuff rubber boots, and wrap-around leg pads.

i just learned how to hop on it, it feels really weird. last night i hopped up (and down) 12 stairs.

Wow, Mountain UW, that’s something I never heard of before.
Seems hard enough just to ride over flat ground. But that’s what everyone thought about unicycling before they tried it, so…

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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:46:50 -0600, kristopher_peck wrote:

>I ride a gazzaloddi 26" x 3.0 UW

>i just learned how to hop on it, it feels really weird. last night i
>hopped up (and down) 12 stairs.

You seem to be “pecking” up where your father left it. (Or did he?)

Klaas Bil - Newsgroup Addict

“Heck, even my toes were aching from trying to grip the soles of my shoes! - Tommy Thompson”

My first UW was made from a 27", thinking it would be easier if bigger. After a while, I made a 24" and eventually a 20". The 24" was a lot easier to ride than either the 20 or 27. My 24" is very very heavy, but I’ve seen people ride it who could ride no other. It was machined to exacting tolerances, but I think it’s the weight and size more than anything.

You may get differences of opinion, and everyone might be correct. The best for you, may not be the best for anyone else.

I only have the 24" now.

pads

hey, i took a freeze frame of my setup

pads.jpeg