I would like to learn some two person juggling with my younger brother, wether it be passing, or whatever. I’ve searched the internet, but all I can find is stuff like 8 club passing…
Any help, or links to a related site, would be much appreciated. 
I’ve never done it, but I’ve heard that to get started, you juggle the same number of items and then pass to each other with the same hand at the same time. So, for example, while juggling at the same tempo, you would both toss the right handed item to the other’s left hand at the same time, instead of tossing the item to your own left hand. I would imaging counting outloud would help you synchronize when to throw.
take a look here:
http://www.jugglingdb.com/jugglewiki/index.php/SixBallTwoCount
You can change the angle of the view with mouse. This is basic 6 ball passing. Every throw goes from the right hand goes across to the other person (look at the pattern). I would every other throw goes across or every third throw first.
Both people pass at the same time, always pass with right (or left hand if you want) land and catch the left hand. The throws go straight across.
My brother and I have done this. It’s pretty easy with bean bags, but it takes some getting use to. We start off with a pass, just to make sure we are synchronized, then we pass on every other right-hand toss. We can do it with every right hand toss, too.
Just make sure that you throw from your right hand to his left hand, and that he does the same thing as you at the same time. The hardest part is finding enough things to juggle…
Well, we have a lot of tennis balls…
Thanks, I dont know how I missed that.
Which is easier, right hand to left or right to right, etc.?
Assuming you’re both right handed the most basic pattern is for your right hands to toss to each others left hands.
passing 8 is really cool though because its like all in sync and it almost looks like a 3 ball cascade just with 8 and different props. try to dig up some videos of team rootberry they do some really cool things along with vova and olga and the passing zone. the passing i dont get is 7 because all the passes are to the same hand of the other person its weird.
What is this person juggling? I clicked on this thread thinking it was going to be about something impressive like chainsaw juggling. It would be impressive to throw two or three people in the air and juggle them. But no. This thread is about making passes with your brother.
my friend and i juggle all the time… its prob. my fav thin gto do besides, riding of course… like everyone said start off counting out loud and trow straight across say on the forth throw… then on the third, then the second… then keep passing… but dont cross, you end up three ball cascading, with both arms, but with your partner, its amazing looking nad feeling!!! i use lacrose balls, cause they are a great weight an dsize and they come in tons of colors, i have green,blue,white,orange,yellow,purple, and they are only $2 a peice!!!
First of all, make sure you can juggle three objects reasonably well in the basic cascade pattern. No need to be an expert.
Then go for it. I watched people passing clubs ( mainly 6 clubs) for months and thought " Wow! ". I never thought I would ever be good enough to pass clubs. However the first time I tried it a big secret was revealed: It is far, far easier than it looks to manage basic passing patterns.
Ignore the post from Bruiser for a while, he suggests watching some of the world’s best at passing. But you want basic stuff to start. Also his comments on 7 are inaccurate.
Stay with 6 objects for a while. 7 and 8 are much faster and harder.
6 Balls: simple 4 count pattern
- Both jugglers hold 2 balls in right hand, 1 in left
- Juggle at the same speed as each other.
- First throw is from your right hand to his left: you are stood maybe 6 feet apart and throw in a slow looping arc to land in his left hand.
- As these first balls simultaneously reach their peaks, throw the balls in your left hand, in normal cascade mode, to your own right hand and catch the passed ball in your left hand. You are now in a similar position as if you were juggling by yourself,
- Juggle the next two throws ( and 3 catches) in normal cascade manner to yourself. ( you could do 4 throws here and 5 catches. the patter would be 6 count and is a little easier because only every 6th throw is a pass )
The next throw then is passed to your partner as in 3)
so your pattern is, for both jugglers
Pass, self , self, self
Repeat until bored.
Where “self” is a cascade throw to yourself.
The slow looping passes give you time, and are important.
Once you can do a basic 6 ball, 4 count ( 4 count: every 4th throw is a pass ) then you can try harder stuff and variations. Try two count: you can work that one out for yourself.
Clubs: same patterns work, except that you need control of the spin so your partner can catch it easily, and control of where exactly you throw the club to, but: IT IS EASIER THAN IT LOOKS.
Later you will learn to pass objects with higher trajectories and more spins (doubles), which will land in the other hand (late), or be thrown (early) from the left hand.
Especially with clubs, it helps enormously to watch someone, and to have a session with someone who can already do it.
Nao
passing with clubs is a hell of a lot easier than passing with balls, assuming you know how to juggle clubs. Ball passing isn’t worth your time, I think. I’d learn clubs first, then passing.
That being said, good luck with whatever you choose. It’ll be hard with you both learning at the same time. The post above is good, but first I’d start with 5 balls. One person juggling, one person holding two. Get your cascade solid, then pass with your right hand and stop juggling. The other person then catches the pass (starts juggling), stabilizes their pattern, and then throws a good pass back to you, repeat. This takes out one of the variables until you get good at passing out of your pattern. If you both are juggling to start you won’t get very far very fast.
I have to disagree there: balls are easier. I have on more than one occasion taught two complete non-jugglers how to pass 5 balls between them, with every throw, both hands, being a pass. And in no more than 10 or 15 minutes. Balls are far easier to pass with, not as much fun as clubs for basic patterns, but much easier. Clubs are not too difficult, provided that you have a fair 3 club cascade, and can control spin in your passes. But novice club passers cannot easily cope with poorly spun club passes, and will also have trouble controlling the spin in their own pass. The problem just does not exist with balls.
To pass 5 balls, do as suggested in the post above, but work up to EVERY throw being a pass. One juggler passes right hand to partner’s left hand, and left hand to partner’s right hand. (straights)
the other passes from his right to his partner’s right and left to partner’s left. (crosses)
This is a surprisingly simple pattern to teach. Easier even than teaching a single juggler a 3 ball cascade!
I would agree totally though, that an excellent way to begin club passing is for one juggler to juggle three, and when comfortable, to pass one to the second juggler. The second juggler is waiting, holding 2 clubs, and starts to juggle three when the pass arrives. Once HIS pattern is stable, he can then pass one back.
Nao
I find a handy ‘rule of thumb’ to be that you should be able to look ‘thru’ your pattern. If you’re still trying to watch every ball in your cascade, practise looking only at the tops of the balls’ arcs and eventually beyond that at the wall.
You’re then just following the balls with your perpheral vision.
When passing, you should watch your partners right hand, and the ball coming to you from there, almost exclusively. If you (both) focus on the incoming ball(s), it will lead to a much more stable pattern.
Passing is the single funnest juggling thing I’ve learnt to do. It is a blast and well worth the practise to get over the initial hurdles.
These include throwing your ‘self’ away from your body. Halfway between a pass and a self. It’s very frustrating at first but the body soon learns to seperate the two moves and to allow you to concentrate at doing them at right angles.
Ball-passing is easier to learn than club-passing, I just got bored with it real quick. Learn to pass balls and it should be so much fun that it acts as a motivation for you to learn how to juggle clubs. Club passing is where it’s at.
I find it works better if you both concentrate on your passes rather than watching what is coming towards you, If you are both concentrating on the pass rather than the catch then you know that the ball/club will be in the right place each time but you tend to lose a lot of the accuracy of the throw if you are too focussed on the incoming object.
Passing six is in sync too, both people throw at the same time, if you mean both your hands are throwing at the same time then I think your timing may be off.
Seven is my favourite number for passing as it is a really versatile number, there are loads of pattern variations and tricks which are a lot harder with greater numbers or are not possible with even numbers, I like the whole passing a full count out from your partner thing too, I thing it makes it look a lot more difficult to non jugglers as you seem to be throwing more randomly.
Watch passing jugglers at any level, they’re all watching the incoming prop.
There’s a reason for that.
I spend many hours watching passing jugglers trying to learn patterns, Some people prefer to watch the throws, some prefer to watch the catches, I think it is more of a personal preference.
I also spend many hours practising passing and I can do both, My preference though is passing with people who throw accurately as if my passing partner throws a loose club and I have to move too much to catch it then I will almost inevitably throw badly and the whole pattern comes apart.
If however the throws are consistently in the right place for me to catch then I throw consistently for my partner to catch and so the pattern holds together.
As I say though, it might just be personal preference but how often do you see the worlds best passing teams moving to catch the incoming object?
Dude, i’m totally not going to argue this with you.
OK, it’s a personal preference, off we go.
No argument from me.
I think throwing the self forward and away from the body is a mandatory step. Every novice passer I have seen does that at some stage. It is usually quickly fixed, to a useable extent, simply because it is so obvious to the passer what he is doing wrong. No one needs to tell him.
There is indeed a reason for watching. And you get so used to watching, and to the expected flight path, that you can easily miss seeing a wayward club, apparently en route to a different airport, until it is just about to hit you between the eyes. Which leads into the recommendation of not stopping to pick up anything you dropped, until you are ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN your partner has stopped throwing things at you. There is probably at least one more in flight that will pass dangerously close past your left ear.
Nao
Yea, I was always taught to look through the pattern, that way you can catch anything that isn’t thrown accurately and don’t get hit by it. Mind you, I’m far too antisocial to enjoy passing very much, all that eye contact and watching each other. However, I am improving and did some pretty nifty three way ball passing in the latest Manchester Juggling Convention. (Where you there Naomi?)
Cathy