Toronto

Just wondering how many of the newsgroup are going to Toronto? My team,
The Panther Pride Demo Team is going, 16 kids ages 8-16 and various pieces
of their families. We will be at all the events. Barb K.

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David Ramos from PA and about 15 from Puerto Rico, for track and
Basketball

David Ramos uniciclo@aol.com

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unicyclers@aol.com writes:
>Just wondering how many of the newsgroup are going to Toronto? My team,
>The Panther Pride Demo Team is going, 16 kids ages 8-16 and various
>pieces of their families. We will be at all the events. Barb K.
From my (NYC) club three members that I know of: Bill R, Joe Merrill
(fellow founder), and myself (and my family of non-riders).

David Stone

This is a reaxion to Barb’s reply dated June 27 on an original post of
January 10. I know Toronto is over (in a way) but that’s not my point.

I am reading all this good stuff on the Usenet newsgroup
rec.sport.unicycling using a News Reader, as opposed to the e-mail list
that mirrors the newsgroup. I keep threads together for context
preservation. But if someone simply replies to a post, the reply ends up
close to the original (=top) saved message, and if that one is old the
reply may never be seen. So if you reply to such an old post (say,
> 1 month), I would prefer that you create a new post from scratch so
that it will start its own thread.

This problem will probably only exist for people who use news readers. If
that is a small minority, you may as well ignore the above. I have no idea
what proportion of the population here reads as news.

(I know I am violating my own rule here, but this message is targeted to
the subscribers on the e-mail and they will still see it I suppose.)

Thank you, Klaas Bil

On 27 Jun 2001 15:31:46 GMT, unicyclers@aol.com (Barb ) wrote:

>Just wondering how many of the newsgroup are going to Toronto? My team,
>The Panther Pride Demo Team is going, 16 kids ages 8-16 and various
>pieces of their families. We will be at all the events. Barb K.


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Klaas Bil wrote:

> I am reading all this good stuff on the Usenet newsgroup
> rec.sport.unicycling using a News Reader, as opposed to the e-mail list
> that mirrors the newsgroup. I keep threads together for context
> preservation. But if someone simply replies to a post, the reply ends up
> close to the original (=top) saved message, and if that one is old the
> reply may never be seen. So if you reply to such an old post (say,
>
>>1 month), I would prefer that you create a new post from scratch so
>>
> that it will start its own thread.

The problem is with your newsreader, not with how people are sending
messages to the newsgroup and mailing list. Barb made a new thread (as
there is no “Re:” in the subject and no “References:” headers) to the
list, which probably had the same subject line as other threads already
sent earlier to the list at some time. Your newsreader decided it wanted
to group all messages with the same subject together as one thread.

Creating a new thread in reply to a message breaks that thread and can
cause confusion to people on the newsgroup and mailing list (especially if
there is high volume on the lists).

Most newsreaders have different ways to sort the messages, so you may want
to try to sort by date or even by unread messages so you don’t miss any.

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mail@gilby.com (Kevin Gilbertson) wrote in message
news:<3B5ED030.9050906@gilby.com>…
> The problem is with your newsreader, not with how people are sending
> messages to the newsgroup and mailing list. Barb made a new thread (as
> there is no “Re:” in the subject and no “References:” headers) to the
> list, which probably had the same subject line as other threads already
> sent earlier to the list at some time. Your newsreader decided it wanted
> to group all messages with the same subject together as one thread.
>
> Creating a new thread in reply to a message breaks that thread and can
> cause confusion to people on the newsgroup and mailing list (especially
> if there is high volume on the lists).
>
> Most newsreaders have different ways to sort the messages, so you may
> want to try to sort by date or even by unread messages so you don’t
> miss any.

Most news readers handle threads in one of two ways, either sorting
messages by title only (in which case Barb’s message would have
appeared seperately), or by grouping the threads by a unique thread
identifier (simply just a character string that the news reader will
use but not display).

If your news reader groups by this identifier (and in my experience most
do, although this may be an option that could be turned off), then a
reply to a post will appear as part of that thread, no matter what you
change the title to. For example, I tend to read rec.sport.unicycling on
Google Groups and this groups threads by thread identifier, irrespective
of title changes.

Try it yourself on one of the test newsgroups, post a message, reply to it
and change the title and you’ll see how you news reader handles
it. That way you can work out what set up works best for you on your
news reader.

Have fun!

Graeme

P.S. I read pretty much everything on this news group anyway, so I’m
not to worried about broken threads (unless they’re holding my
cranks on).