The Turin Shroud has attracted interest and controversy for many a year. Although I understand carbon dating has proved conclusively that the shroud cannot, by well over a thousand years, be in any way related to the death of Jesus Christ, it is unlikely that the Catholic Church would ever concede that. However it still holds high significance for many.
This forum contains, for me, am almost uncomfortable and rather surprising number of people who believe in God.
I would like to seek their opinion on two other “Images of Christ”. These are a little more recent than the Turin Shroud. I shall not reveal their source just yet awhile, in order to prevent you doing any research before replying, but may I ask of you, and especially of the religious forum members: Can you see an “Image of Christ” in the two attached pictures?
The more adventurous might then like to turn the pictures upside down and look again whether they can see anything. Best viewed at about 1/2 screen dimensions from a couple of feet away from the screen.
Tell me what you see, if anything, and any opinions you might have.
why do people think that any image that kind of looks like a person has to be jesus?
That guy in your wood picture appears to have abeard. one not so different from my beard. Oh blessed me on this happiest of days that mine own image doth appear in wood.
praise Brian Mackenzie, for he hath risen!
Now to put on my new harbringers, as the allen key keeps falling through the holes in my hands…
I see a vase. no wait, two people.
That’s Me and jesus
Oh, that explains it all.
I am frankly surprised that the number of Americans who believe in God is as low as it is as indicated by the article below.
I can easily see how some would see Jesus in those images, though one could as easily see a heretical medieval knight on the rack. It depends, I suppose, on what you want to see and believe.
I had a very uncomfortable conversation with a colleague once where I disparagingly quoted the statistic below relating to angels only to find her among the two thirds. I guess I should have played the odds and kept my mouth shut.
Majority in U.S.believes in God ; * Miracles, heaven and Jesus Christ outpoll ghosts, UFOs and witches.
Jennifer Harper, THE WASHINGTON TIMES
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25 December 2005
The Washington Times
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© 2005 Washington Times Library. Provided by ProQuest Information and Learning. All rights reserved.
Traditional religion is still the bedrock of America, with “very large majorities” of the public steadfast in their belief in God and the birth and Resurrection of Jesus Christ - with belief in astrology, ghosts and other New Age hallmarks lagging behind.
Overall, 82 percent of Americans believe in God, according to a recent Harris poll, which also revealed that 73 percent also believe in miracles, 70 percent in life after death, 70 percent in the existence of heaven, and 70 percent that Jesus is the Son of God. In addition, 68 percent believe in angels and 66 percent in the Resurrection of Christ.
Six out of 10 believe in the devil and the existence of hell.
Republicans emerged as the most spiritual of all the respondents in the survey - which included demographic divisions for men, women, three political parties and three levels of education. Republicans’ numbers eclipsed results in all those categories.
The poll revealed a distinct partisan divide.
It found that 93 percent of the respondents who were Republican believe in God; the figure was 81 percent among Democrats, who only edged out the GOP when it came to belief in miracles. The poll found 78 percent of the Democrats believe in miracles, compared with 76 percent of Republicans.
In addition, 82 percent of the Republicans believe in the survival of the soul after death, that Jesus is the Son of God and in the existence of heaven. Among Democrats, 68 percent believe in life after death and that Jesus is the Son of God, while 73 percent believe in heaven.
More than three quarters - 76 percent - of Republicans believe in both angels and the Resurrection of Christ; those figures were 70 percent and 68 percent among Democrats, respectively.
Members of both parties do not discount the existence of evil. The poll found that 67 percent of Republicans believe in both the devil and hell; the figure stood at 61 percent among Democrats in both categories as well.
New Age influences do not resonate much among Americans.
“What may be more surprising is that significant minorities believe in ghosts, UFOs, witches, astrology and in reincarnation,” the poll found.
Indeed, only 21 percent believe in reincarnation: “That you were once another person,” the poll stipulated. A quarter put credence in astrology, 28 percent believe that witches exist, and 34 percent believe in UFOs.
Four out of 10 believe in ghosts - a category that even the political parties could agree upon: among Republicans, the figure was 42 percent; among Democrats, 41 percent.
There was a divide of the sexes, though. While 46 percent of the women believe in ghosts, the figure stood at 33 percent among men. More men than women, however, believed in UFOs - 38 percent to 31 percent. Roughly three in 10 of both sexes believed in witches; 30 percent of women believed in astrology, compared with just 19 percent of men.
The poll was conducted among 889 adults Nov. 15-22, with a margin of error of three percentage points.
You’re making me blush!
it looks like that famous painting, of the screaming scream or whatever it is. or it may be a vagina.
Munch’s The Scream. Currently on unauthorized loan.
Art, Jesus, and vagina in one thread. That can foretell only one thing: Brooklyn Museum of Art.
Anybody ever read The Templar Legacy by Steve Berry?
It is a Da Vinci code knockoff, and I’m not saying it can be taken as fact, but it poses an interesting idea…it’s explained much better in the book
Why do these apparitions mostly look Anglo-Saxon?
What, he should look like a Jew?
The wood pieces appear to be split wood that is arranged to align two edges that were neighbors in the original piece. This type of woodcraft commonly results in quasi-symmetric images that conjure all sorts of things in one’s imagination, usually things that have the same kind of symmetry. Like the constellations, these fragmentary inputs result in our brains producing something that makes “sense” to the viewer from his or her experience and expectations and needs, and are meaningless except for how we respond to them.
One could easily slice the original pieces of wood many times and produce a succession of images with this kind of symmetry.
By setting us up to see the figure of a person, Naomi, I could finally see one, but it didn’t jump out. If it weren’t for the set up , I might never have seen anything that resembled a person.
Slice enough trees, and you can do the same thing in a different wood type. Heck, you could do it with peanut butter ripple ice cream. 
mmmmm…ice cream
I don’t get it.
Big deal, so a patteren in some wood looks slightly like what some people imagine Jesus to have looked like. Who cares if it looks like what people think Christ may have looked like?
You answer a question with a question? You some type of Rabbi?
it means…Jesus, is truly with us.
or like whatever.
“I know”, thinks Jesus, “I will reappear to the human race and give them a sign! And that sign shall be…MY IMAGE ON A SLICE OF CHEESE AND TOAST!”
Do me a favour…
I’m sorry folks, I don’t see a thing except a peice of wood.
I dunno. Right-side up, it doesn’t look much like much. Inverted, I suppose it could vaguely resemble Jafar from the movie “Aladdin,” though all it really has going for it are the two blotches that serve as eyes, and if you cover those up, the face goes away. Of course the brain is always looking to slap an identity onto whatever pattern it sees, whether it’s in wood grain or clouds or window-frost or whatever, and the impulse to form a human face out of just about anything is almost irresistible.
One afternoon just last year I saw a cloud formation that looked exactly like Bill Clinton’s head, seen from the left and a bit behind. I wish I’d had a camera with me. It had a nose, and an ear, and the hair, and that sort of I’m-thinking-of-something-really-amusing-right-now-but-I’m-not-telling-you-what-it-is expression of his and everything, really quite eerie.