I compared the 24 Duro to the 26 Muddy Mary because I wanted a nearly equal (or lighter) weight on the bigger wheel. And I haven’t weighted the unis (or the tires) but the complete 26er felt slightly heavier, not much though (but there is also the bigger rim)
I just had a quick look around the web, and the Muddy Mary 2.5 claims to weigh 1150g. That should be WAY lighter than the Duro 3" - I think the 26" version weighs about 1800g, so I’d guess even the 24" would be heavier than the Mary.
Rob
According to the Schwalbe website the 26" Muddy Mary 2.5 Downhill weighs 1350g and on the Duro homepage the 24" Duro Razorback 3.0 (which seems to be the Duro Wildlife Leopard) is stated with a weight of 1255g.
http://durotire.com/productdetails.php?productid=646
EDIT:
My LBS weighted the Muddy Mary a few months ago for me and as far as I can remember this weight could be approximately correct. The Duro seems a bit light though.
Hmmm. You may be right - I just got the Mary weight from a bike shop and Duro from UDC UK. I’d be surprised if the 24" Duro was really only 1200g though.
Anyway, sounds like a nice tyre (although Chain Reaction has it listed as discontinued).
I’m still thinking of going for a Conti Rubber Queen 2.4 when my current Duro wears out.
Rob
Yah before I studded and modified the tread of my 26x3 Duro it was around 1700g. I have it written down somewhere.
I have been looking at reviews on this tyre on the web, I realy like the idea of having a unicycle ~1kg lighter and faster than my 24’’ with a gazz.
For people looking at this tyre here are some reviews:
http://reviews.mtbr.com/blog/continental-rubber-queen-review/
FYI from this review^ it looks like the name has been changed to Trail King, a pitty the old name was better IMO. Strange as the Continental site doesn’t say that, at least I can’t find it.
http://www.bicycleeverything.com/products/Continental-Trail-King-Mountian-Bike-Tire.html
Jap what is the wear rate like? Also Im not sure if I’ve asked this before :o but is it an ok tyre for hopping? Thanks for your help ![]()
Back on page 12 I posted about the Continental Vertical (and my quest to get it into the rim).
Well, I didn’t like it at all. The weight reduction from the Duro was countered by the lack of cushioning and the less forgiving ride that comes with a 3.0 tyre. It was slower, less effective at climbing and overall very disappointing. Hilariously I had to remove the bastard with a saw because it was utterly impossible to get off any other way. I welcomed back the Duro with open arms.
Naturally, I ended up sawing through the inner tube too (despite my best efforts to the contary). D’oh. On the bright side, the new tube (a Specialized 3.0) I replaced it with actually feels different to the old one; it’s considerably bouncier, making hopping a lot easier. I guess that something good came from the experience! ![]()
arrow wide bite 24x3 slow compound
just tried my new arrow tyre out ,so far i really like it feels really stable playing around with tyre pressures at the moment started at 40 psi
Dude, that’s not a road tire. Try some normal muni pressures, like 15-20 psi ![]()
Speaking of muni tires, if you all are looking for a decent 26" muni tire, see if you can find an Intense 2.5-2.7 FRO, great tire, similar feel to a Gazz JR, but with a folding bead it’s easier to install and lighter.
Note that there are a number of variants in the Intense tires, so be sure you get the two ply with sticky rubber and a linear outer knobby; i.e. not an irregular pattern.
Im in love too! Tested the tire last weekend on roots and loose, dry ground and it was GOOD!
Also a tire that i should mention here is the Schwalbe Dirty Dan (only a 26x2.35, but its as big as the TryAll!!)
Its a tire made for extreme muddy conditions and you can feel that for sure.
On road its nearly not possible to move forward (very sticky compound and the big profile) but in loose muddy terain, you’ll get grip like no other tire.
I could make fast turns where other good riders just slipped away.
That tire is a grippy beast!
I will use the Dirty Dan for bad and the Muddy Mary for good weather.
I may try the Muddy Mary in the Freeride version in 2.35… it only weights 850g! 400g less then the DH version with 2.5.
The swampthing has decent volume but the casing is not super stiff so I’ve found I need to run a bit higher pressure than normal. This tread is great for loose, slushy snow and deep mud but is horrible on pavement and hardpack. I would suggest the tioga factory dh as a much more versatile tire
Am I the only one riding an Intense DH 26"?
Seriously, coming from a 3" DH tire DURO and having tried a bunch of other tires, my fav being the GAzz Jr 2.6", the Intense is a great tire and I think the 2.3-2.5" tires are still being made unlike the larger 24 x 3" DH Intense tire.
Mine is a folding tire with 50D sticky tread which is easilly as sticky as a trials tire, has a consistent outside knobby edge, runs nice and straight on hardpack, barely any “lean”, wearing faster than a harder rubber, but boy does it stick on wet stuff!
Get the dual ply casing, this gives good sidewall support at low pressures, folding bead is easier to mount and less likely to tear when taking tire on and off. I run mine between 12-14psi and I weight 200#, so someone lighter could easilly run 10-12#. I was using an HD MTB tube, but switched a muni DH tube and felt the ride was more resilient at lower air pressures.
Here’s a couple like what I ride, the DH is teh same as the Invader:
http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/TI287A14-Intense+Dh+Fro+Lite+Tire.aspx
http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/TI271A02-Intense+Tire+Systems+Invader+Mt+Tire+10.aspx
Interesting XC model:
http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/TI287A03-Intense+Tire+Systems+4+Xc+Tire.aspx
A 29er option:
http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/TI272A00-Intense+Tire+Systems+29Er+Mtb+Tire.aspx
Vredestein Bull Lock
I have a few more K on my Vredestein so I am going to share with you guys my findings.
You can find my initial impressions and pictures here
Everything I said in the initial review still stands but I have gotten more used to riding at slightly higher pressures and have dropped it a bit from how hard it was in the spring. I took basically the same setup up a walking path in the mountains of British Columbia. Day one I was using the 165 setting for the way up and day 2 I was using 137 on the way down.
Conditions for the way up was cold and rainy. Trails were mostly loamy dirt and lots of rocks and roots. The tire was a camp on the loam did quite well in the mud, really stuck well in the wet scree, but would slide right out from under me on the wet wood and was sort of unpredictable on the wet rocks. The smaller volume did help with sidehills and finding the gap between the rocks when it was tight.
On the way down it started out frosty but warmed up and was mostly dry. The tire no-longer had grip problems on the wet roots and rocks and I was able to push it a bit harder. I had to be more careful picking my line than I would have if I was using a Gazz or other 3" tire but the light weight made it much easier to thread my way through the rocks and roots. I had a blast and the only things holding me back were the lack of a break (I don’t use them back home and forgot to put one on) and lack of skill. Maybe I should have kept the cranks in the 165 position but it was so much fun bombing some of the smoother swoopy downhill sections in 137.
So. This tire does great in wet conditions until it hits a rock or root and then all bets are off. When it dried up I really liked the tire. it really stuck to the trail giving me plenty of traction and when it did break away it did so slowly instead of all at once letting you try to control the slide. I mostly just ran out of braking torque.
The little bit on the road that I did ride felt pretty good. The tire did not pull and handled itself well. It did have a thump thump thump from the tread but rolling resistance didn’t feel too high.
I am going to keep this tire as my traveling do everything tire if I don’t know where I am going to ride. I guess that the Black Panther from Vredestein is considerably larger for similar weight and I might pick one of those up to compare next time I order something from Jenson.
I don’t have unicycling experience with one but I’m running a Black Panther on the front end of my rigid 26" MTB. It’s a big, light tire but the side walls are very thin. I run it a bit below the stated minimum to take some of the bite out of the trails and it does fine (again, on a bike). It’s a great multi-use tire on a bike and if I had a 26" unicycle wheel I’d be tempted to try it out.
the larry does
perfect snow riding on theese 10cm pasty snow on the roads and footpath here.
and it leaves such a wide skidmark in the snow - really nobody would expect a unicycle did it:D
Larry, no more needs to be said.
Since Larry came into my home, the air is fresher, the floors stay cleaner longer, my kids don’t talk back, and the bedroom, oh my!
Truly, Larry is the one you have been searching for, yes, yeS, yES, YES!
I Have now taken Larry on numerous single track rides through muck, snow, slush, water, up and down, over rocks and roots, and so far I gotta say that Larry makes things easier, esp tech stuff that threw me off. Since getting Larrry I have cleaned a number of technical downhills that had evaded me since I started riding.
I’ll probably keep Larry rolling through the winter, then bring out the 29er for fast riding in drier surfaces come summer.
Most definitely, you need more crank to do Larry justice, so I upped from 165 to 170 when I went from a Duro 26 x 3 to the Larry.
WTB Dissent
Oh - nice to know - till now I just used it for unicycling…![]()
got my 29" WTB Dissent yesterday…now I m excited to ride it
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Curious to see what you think of the Dissent. Josh at UDC really likes it, but it was too much tire for me, so I’m back on my Racing Ralph 2.4.
I’m not a hopper or jumper, so that might be why I prefer a softer tire. The RR and Larry are like cousins ![]()
I run a Marxist high roller 2.6 on my 26". It is a very quick tyre on the dirt and super responsive in the turns when compared to my tractor type. It’s nice and sticky also for handling the loose wet bits. Running tireless will further lessen the rotational mass for an easier pedal.
WTB Kodiak / Dissent
Test Setup:
29" KH Freeride rim / Schlumpf Hub / Triton triple muniframe
till now ridden:
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in old coarse grained snow and ice low pressure -I didn´t measure it.
absolute fantastic grip even on ice, I would not have expected from such a “narrow” 2.5" tire;), great directional stability -
road with and without snow ridden by Elk-e
she was surprised about the grip and directional stability, good rolling and in contrast to the schwalbe big apple she had no problem with lateral balance. -
drops / stairs
I rode some stairs and drop down up to 3 feet and the tire does it uncomplaining, the feeling was almost like a duro wildlife and not like the thin sidewall tires like racing ralph or so at the other side its qite more heavy than theese
1310g own measurement.