I also have strong reason to believe the Oregon will be coming out soon. Not inclined to say more, lest the lips stop flapping.
I wanted to chime in here before this post got too old. I love Larry and I’m not afraid to say it out loud!
I really can’t imagine my 26" uni without it; it’s the perfect combo between a 26" and 29" wheel set. Even better with disk brakes
Will Larry fit in any frame but the Conundrum? (or Oregon when it is available) Or on any wheel but the Large Marge? The Duro Wildlife Leopard is 3" and leaves only 1/4" each side in my N26 frame. (so there is no way Larry will fit). It is a great tire and Josh did a nice job choosing it for the stock setup for the Nimbus. I have ridden it in some pretty serious mud and snow and it does very well.
Can’t afford a Conundrum or Oregon, so I guess I won’t be able to join the Larry love-fest! But the Nimbus/Duro is a great ride anyway.
The triton triple muniframe is designed for theese tires;)
The pics are from Endomorph but the Larry has same dimensions.
Dude, clean that uni!
Will Larry fit anything but the Conundrum, Triton, and soon to be released Oregon?
No, so sorry.
If UDC follows precedent, they will sell completes first, then the seperate parts will start rolling in, so maybe by Fall 2011 you’ll be able to buy the frame and hub only.
I have a very nice KH 29er, outfitted with my fav tire RR 2.4), brakes, the works. But, since getting my Conundrum set up with a Larry, the KH 29er sits alone, gathering dust. I suppose it’ll come out of dry dock in time, maybe for long rides on easy single track (Tsoli), but for muni, real muni, the Larry is my everyday ride, wet and dry.
April is supposed to be a good month for Oregon, or so they say…
rode my first larry and LOVED it! so much faster and nicer ride than a 24x2.7
Headed up to the Kinetic Sculpture Race tomorrow. It includes about a mile of sand dunes, so I’m all Larry’ed out:
I am a bit curious in regards to maintaining air pressure in the Larry. I have not taken my Oregon on the trail as of yet (still getting back into the swing of things) and have only used an electric pump to bring the Larry to the various pressures I have been experimenting with.
What are you guys using while on the trail to maintain air pressure? The gauge I picked up from UDC doesn’t start registering until 20#. Are you using hand pumps with built in gauges? Will a C02 pump work to bring the Larry to 8-15#? I have a compact hand pump to use on the trail, but was wondering if there was a better alternative. The guys at the LBS think C02 would require too many charges to inflate the tire, but I’m wondering if he expected me to bring it to 60# or more. Any suggestions or advice would be very helpful.
I find the gauge on my floor pump doesn’t work well at Larry-low pressures so I just go by feel. Without a lot of experimenting I quickly found there’s a definite sweet spot between too high (bounced off easily) and too low (hard to steer) where the tire goes where you want it do on dirt and pavement and still rolls over obstacles with ease. Your compact hand pump should work fine.
There’s no way I would use CO2 cartridges to pump up a huge tire like the Larry. At home I’m using a floor pump with a pressure gauge. On the trail I’m hoping I don’t get a flat, but I have a hand pump that would eventually manage to fill the tire. The exact air pressure isn’t very important; just get a feel for how squishy you like it, pump it up and hop on it a few times to see if it’s about right.
Great advice. I have been using my hands to feel the tire and I will stick with the hand pump.
I have gotten to know Larry a bit over the last couple months. He has been living on a Echo 46mm rim in a Triton frame.
On the “skinny” rim Larry does pretty well with higher pressures but I don’t think he is living up to his full potential. With the slightly higher pressures needed to keep the Larry from folding on side-hops it actually has pretty decent road manners and doesn’t pull to the side too much.
Larry should be moving to a new home on a 50mm rim and I am hoping that I will be able to run some lower pressures with this rim and take advantage of the relatively large volume.
On the subject of volume I was actually a bit disappointed that it wasn’t bigger. It is a lot lighter but not really all that much bigger than my old Gazz.
I use a compact digital guage that goes down to 1 or 2 Psi (I forget exactly), measures in 0.5 psi increments and accurate to +/- 0.5
Once I settled on my preffered pressure I double check the pressure at my car, then usually risk a flat and leave the guage and pump. I avoid sharp rocks, keep an eye out for thorns, and risk a flat. I’ve yet to be stranded on the trial do to a flat (I use a heavy duty tube and don’t do drops).
Such low pressures on my gauge where very usefull when I was running an air saddle, I usually ended up w/ 4.5 psi.
I use a highly sensitive bimetric gage accurate to whatever I want. Mostly I pump it up and hop a few times to gage how it feels.
I always carry a pump and either a tube or patch kit when going more than 5 or 10 km.
Like Larry
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More riding updates for Larry:
Seriously, riding a Larry is like cheating, it’s just too friggin easy, just roll through the muck, no slippage, just floats over it all.
I agree!
Just a heads up but Larry now has a bigger fatter brother, and a couple cuzins are coming out of the woodwork.
I would love to see how Nate and BFL handle themselves but I don’t really have much reason to upgrade from good old Larry yet.
The BFL will fit on the LM and I’m betting that the Oregon has the frame space to accomodate the extra inch in width.
4.7" of goodness, I want one!
I just ordered a BFL, should have it next week.
Spoke to one of the Surly guys in MN, talked about the rims, tires, tubes. Sounds like the BFL will work on all three rims (65, 82, 100), just depends on the desired profile you want. 100mm ClownShoe/BFL is going to be closest to the 65mm Large Marge/Larry.
In terms of rim strength, the 82mm and 100mm rims are single walled, so not designed for air time, though they are strong as a function of their width, according to the Surly dude
I’m running a 26 x 3" tube in my LM/Larry, will try that out in the BFL before going to the Surly tube; I have not found the Surly tube to be all that durable. Apparently there are now two tube thicknesss, 1mm and 1.3mm.
I’m thinking of having a super wide rim build up, Nimbus alloy disc hub 125mm spacing, 100mm Clown Shoe, and the BFL.
I just hope the the Oregon frame is wide enough :o
Update
When it comes to Larry and rims wider is better!
I was hoping that when I got a 50mm rim it would be wide enough for a Larry while still staying skinny enough for “regular” tires. It was definitely an improvement on the 46mm rim I was using before but not a huge difference.
I rode Tom Holub’s unicycle with a Larry on a 65mm Large Marge rim for a little bit and Larry’s potential became apparent. Once I had the ride with the wider rim and I knew how much smoother and plusher my ride could be with the same tire, I had to get myself a wider rim.
Enter the 80mm Vicious Cycles Graceful Fat Sheba. I was a bit concerned that 80mm might be too wide for summer riding on the Larry tire but it turned out to be pretty fantastic. I can air down to the point of rim-strikes on minor obstacles without loosing stability. It was absolutely fantastic on snow and loose stuff. I put a bit more pressure in for a trail ride and it wasn’t as hard to handle as I feared and gobbled up all the lumps and bumps without bouncing like it did on the skinnier rim.
Larry did slide a lot in loose wet snow on downhills but that isn’t very surprising. Most slides were recoverable which was a lot of fun.
Doing a bit more trail riding the Larry/80mm rim combo is more work than a smaller more nimble combo, but a ton of fun.
Hey Eric (Waldo), where you at these days?
Went back down to Raccoon Mtn and rode the other side, Lower Chunky and Upper Chunky. Lower was reallly rough going, but Upper was so much fun, lots of slick rock and tons of rolling trials.
When you comin’ back to TN?