The Callout- trials/street/flat

Its called Bittorrent or keygens.

I would like to make some decent videos but at the moment its the lack of a decent camera that is stopping me. I do love editing, even though im not great at it, but im never 100% happy with my videos because they are always shot with digital cameras.
I do try and make them entertaining though, and I try to only include the best clips that I have.

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I’ve tried that… but a couple of the ones I tried, either I didn’t understand how to crack them, or they didn’t work, or they were some kind of scam attempt!

If you have any links to some torrents you can recommend then… :stuck_out_tongue: be my guest, PM me if you don’t wana post em eh!

is that like the illegal way to get 'em? (im not very familiar internet stuff)

ahem

premier pro is all good for throwing vids together, but i think i might use after effects cs3:D

There are different ways of going about making a “good” unicycle video. Of course having the newest tricks, smoothest riding and impresive stunts is where any DVD quality video should be aimed to. Sometimes online we have the privilage of really good riders putting out some neat videos. Most of the time its some of us less experiensed riders that are making the bulk of the videos. Its not always possible to get the right tools or a big enough budget to make groundbreaking videos. So what do we have to do to give our videos that much needed flair?

When making a video with tricks they may not be top level riding you have to ask yourself, “how am I going to keep the viewers attention?”. There are many tricks to do this. First off think of your camcorder like a picture camera, spend a couple minutes thinking about what you want in the frame. Find the right spot for the tripod, or make sure your camera man is on the same page as you. If the shot didnt take you all day to get try filming it a couple more times so you have options when you get to the post production. Also make sure you tell your camera man to keep the thing filming long after you land or fail at the trick. Its always better to have extra footage then have a nasty fall cut short.

Its also nice when your film tells a story. You dont need to write a plot. Just think of it in terms of the emotions you are trying to share. Is your video going to be filled with love, hate, impovements, frustration, sun, rain. These things can give your video a over all feel and connect your clips together much like a short film tells a story.

After you get the filming done and are getting ready to start your editing, dont rush it. The post productions should take much longer then the actual filming. Also take your time picking the right song. Think about the types of shots you filmed and what is got and what is gonna fit your vision for the video. (it sometimes takes me 3 days or more just pick the right song.)

After your master piece is editied up and the proper credits have been added and you are happy with the results. You are ready for compression. Compressing your video correctly is just as important as the riding, editing and music. I can give you guys some of the things I do to get good compressions if you all want…? Its can be kinda complicated so I am not going to get into it unless someone specificly needs it.

These are just some of the main things to focus on. I obvioulsy cant tell you how to hold the camera and how to make the right transitions and fades. Or if your trick is gonna look cool or not. Just things that I think about when trying to make a video that will capture and hold my viewers attention. Some of you might claim that what I have written are obvious things… well they are things we rarely see in videos so… Its something we can all always improve on.
Hope this helps.
-Sam Haber

isnt that the one i linked?? :roll_eyes:

wow…great write up. thanks a lot, i will take that into conseideration!!

hmm i might make a video for this, i might have some time tomorrow :slight_smile:

You must realize, In unicycling, theres a difference between tech street and big street. big street is mcmullin/skrobo style. In tech street, you generally don’t do anything larger than a 4 or 5 stair. tech street is all about complicated flips down curbs and small sets. It appears you like kevin mcmullins style best, but still they are pretty much seperate versions of the sport.

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big street is mcmullin/skrobo style.QUOTE]
pardon the noobness of this question, but i thought skrobo was more of big trials as he does gaps and hops rather that unispins and crankflips and whatnot. i could be way of base here, but this is what i was led to beleive since i was a true noob and asked what the difference was

Tech street… bah. Seriously mate, tech street, by what you describe is what people do as practise. This is all done in the hopes that they can take it to the proper street once they dial the tricks good enough. Do you know what tech street in BMX is? and other similar street sports? Lines. Yep, lines. Just like in trials…tech means lines.

^e.g.: manual, bunnyhop onto table, 180 out of it, ride fakie, half cab 180 out, bunnyhop onto a concrete ledge grind, barspin out of it. (This is technical BMX)

Dan Heaton took a BMX-minded approach to his riding in a way… if you look at his stuff, it’s simple yes, but he made awesome use of backwards riding and 180s on street furniture. That is tech, but adding flip tricks just makes it look more impressive. Watch his scene in Defect for some insight on proper tech… then throw in your flip tricks and boof you’ve got something VERY impressive. (adding tech street and big street together is what ALL high-end street bmxers and skaters do, and it is so damn impressive and inspiring)

the proper technical street as I just described, as well as big street (sets, grinds, drops etc…) are just like two halves of THE Street sport. Add them together and you get awesome stuff. Kelly Hickman, Shaun, and Kevin are both very capable of adding the two elements together.

Kevin M is often stereotyped as being just a big street rider… but he is really good at the proper technical as I described just above. He knows how to combine tricks with big obstacles but most importantly he knows how to use the street furniture around him and make lines out of them. Who else have you seen do a backflip footplant off a large stairset? That’s original and quite creative. Creativity is what makes street advantageous over other disciplines it is infinite what you can do and you may as well take advantage of this fact.

I hope this inspires the street riders out there.

As For editing… please DON’T be pressurised to go and get the best editing software. I know of many people on other forums (biketrials and bmx) that have produced awesome vids from Windows Movie Maker. No, seriously.

Crappy stuff to avoid:
-blue intro screens with white Arial font written: “Jimothy’s Street Vid 1”
-commercial music that doesn’t fit the editing and riding
-silly twirly special effects and flashy effects… you don’t need it.

What is cool is stuff like well placed fade-in and fade-out effects. Dan Heaton uses this quite a bit in Defect and works really well :).

As for stuff like intro screens and credits… make it look nice… since your making the effort to do a vid, you may as well put some top banana into it. Make it look attractive but in a mature and sophisticated looking way. Black screens with decent white font normally looks good.

^To get a good idea of decent intro screens and credits, watch Koxx One’s GLOC vid, several Johanneson videos, Defect, and others out there.

GLOC is a good example of average riding (*average by Koxx’s standard) made to look even more impressive by the awesome editing and effects. Check it out, it’s probably the best effort vid made by Koxx. Very good example.

Good night all.

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A lot of what skrobo does is trials, but a lot street also. This may be debatable, but i consider rolling hops 2 be part of street and trials is more static hops.
And sponge, i guess a better term would have been small street, and its not only psactice. I mean, i like a good 2 stair or manny pad sess, its not like im practicing for a full varialflip down an 8 set (though that would be nice). I mean, even in shaun and lukes and kriszs vids they include mostly small street in them. Does that meen theyre bad? Ynu max not enjoy em, but i sure do…

if i am the one this is focused on, i have made several decent vids, but i would like to be a video editor/producer as a side job when i am older, so i try to take editing seriously (while still keeping it fun). i plan to get a better “studio” anyway, not just for my unicycle movies, but rather for the enjoyment, practice, and ediing other videos as well. i have Sony Vegas (the consumer one, not the good one), and there are many things that i want to do, but i cant b/c the software is so “un-advanced”

Ill try to start a trials video going.

It may not be a technical trials vid, with lots of skinnies, but ill see what I can do.

Another thought… I like to decide what song to use before I start editting the video, that way I can make sure I have lined up clips with the beat of the song perfectly as I go along, instead of adding a song at the end and hoping that it matches the video, or having to rearrange clips or move things in the video to make the song match.

And I would like to say good write up Sam. You obviously have a lot of skill and potential in this area.

I’m going to call you out Sponge, just give me a month or so and I’ll come back with a sick vid.

Hope you like natty trials.

yeah i sorta agree ther, but tbh, takin biking styles as a mold is a good thing. like look how far trials has evolved and gotten by riders tryin to keep up with and duplicate trials bikers. bikers laid the ground for us and they are the masterrs of the disciplines.

spognge has got a point tho, like so many street and flat vids are shit these days cos people are not creative and orignal and thats why unicycling street and flat suck in general. bmx and skate vids are almost all awesome beause they no how to use street proper. the main reason why dan heaton is still the most popular street rider to many is cos he rode with that bmx style theory and he made interesting lines which no one seems to do these days.
n yeah im sik to death of constant flat vids everywher all da same shit no ofence. it be good if ppl did it like jon atwell and spener hogchberg in dat new vid. but emile u need to work on it cos ur style of flat is just easy small street tbh cos its like a flip trick and then hop hop after ad theres no flo. so u may as well do them down 3 sets.

i wil make a vid for sure to includ sum big street and tech will b awsome. i be using steven hamiltons animal bmx vid as inspiration

A good street/flat vid for u guys (mostly flat) is krisz and benyos “hungarian underground” vid. Its on the koxx website and from your complaints i figure you would all enjoy this video. Editing is good, many complex flat combos, and the 2 sets that are done are huge (considering whats being done down them, they are really only a 6 and a 4 set). Enjoy.

Yes exactly. Standard definition raw video files themselves can be as much as 20 gb per 60 min tape. If we are talking about high quality video here, HD 1080i raw captured files can take much more space than that. If his computer can’t run photoshop ad his editing software at the same time this is a huge problem. He literally will not be able to produce nevermind capture, render, or export anything of length.

I live in Toronto and I know here there are many places at which you can rent apple editing suites (usually Macpro tower with dual displays) for relatively reasonable price per hour (between 15-30). Really all you need to edit (if you don’t have a sufficient computer) is a good portable hard drive of maybe 300 gigs or more to store your capture scratch on.

I’ve been compiling a list of locations to film at and plotting out camera angles for months… this thread makes me want to get this video out even more, I have so many angles and locations it’s gonna take me a while just to film it, let alone edit! I spend more time editing most of my videos than I do filming them… I really want to go rent a few high end cameras for this video though because the quality of the shots and locations I figured out deserves better quality than I own… I also need to come up with some money and hire several friends to be camera men because my tripod can’t get the angles I want easily, or follow me through a shot on it own… I’m glad this thread came up, it’s going to give me a reason to actually film at this half a notebook page worth of locations instead of dream about it…