The best

So in the newsgroups opinion, what is THE best Muni or ATU? We’re talkin the
best in the catagorys you deem most important. So? So? thanx

Re: The best

Without a doubt the best muni for hard core cross-country riding is the Telford.
A really great frame, a well designed optional shock, and easily swappable
wheel. With extra wheels you can quickly turn it into a street cruiser or a fat
tire muni for the single track trails. I’m patiently waiting for one.

The best muni for trials style riding is whatever you can get that can handle
the abuse.

john_childs

>So in the newsgroups opinion, what is THE best Muni or ATU? We’re talkin the
>best in the catagorys you deem most important. So? So? thanx


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RE: The best

> So in the newsgroups opinion, what is THE best Muni or ATU? We’re talkin the
> best in the catagorys you deem most important. So? So?

At the moment, there are still not that many on the market. Several new designs
are in the works but not yet available. I am counting the Telford as available,
because a dozen or so have actually been made (though people may still be
waiting…).

If you want an unbreakable (at least real strong) axle, there is only the DM
ATU. It has the top-notch crankset of the bunch. But otherwise, it is ordinary
steel and not really amazing (but new things are in the works at DM!). Don’t get
me wrong, I love pounding around on my ATU with 2.6" Gazzaloddi tire!

For flexible design (meaning fits lots of wheels), good looks, and many other
options, the Telford can’t be beat. You can order one with a suspension seat
post (if you’re tall enough), fat tire, skinny 28" tire, super-strong re-heat
treated Semcycle axle, and probably specify your paint color. And it comes with
the Miyata seat, which I prefer.

Then there is the Semcycle Deluxe Custom Off-Road, a new player in the MUni
market. This should be a very strong contender, but I don’t know anything about
it yet. For myself, I’d rather have a handle on my seat, and I don’t know how
the flexible frame will work with the fat tires. But these are new, wider
frames, and their thin profile will make them less likely to rub your legs if
you have a problem with that. Also the new Semcycles are the only production
unicycles to fit both the 24" x 3.0 or 26" x 3.0 Gazzaloddi tires.

These unicycles are much more expensive than their competitors, and you get what
you pay for.

Then there is the Pashley, which is built for the off-road environment. I think
it’s the best at it’s price point.

There is now also a Semcycle XL “trail conversion” model, with a knobby tire and
a few other extras to adapt it for trails. But it’s based on a street machine
with an ordinary axle, narrow tire clearance, and lower-end frame compared to
the cycles above.

Another decent MUni is a plain old Miyata with a knobby tire. Again you have to
shop around to find a tire that will fit the narrow Miyata frame. Tom Miller
(765) 452-2692 has 24" white tires that are great all-arounders. They have tread
for the trail but can also be used for everyday riding. And they’re cheap! Also
on a 24" Miyata, you will want crank arms that are longer than the standard
125mm. 140 or 150 works well for me.

BTW, all of these can be ordered from www.unicycle.com, except the Telford
(www.telford-design.com).

Hope that’s useful, John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone (reply to jfoss@unicycling.com)
http://www.unicycling.com

BTW, I still can’t send directly to Mr. Koski. All messages are returned with an
error message something like “address not recognized.” The address is
ki@sopris.net”. Is that right?

RE: The best

All,

> At the moment, there are still not that many on the market. Several new
> designs are in the works but not yet available.

My apologies for not including my Roger Davies Mk 5 Carbon Fibre MUni in my
list. As it is hand made, I didn’t think of it with the others. But at the high
end, they’re really all hand made.

Roger built me my first “real” MUni, and it attracts attention wherever it goes
as one of the most exotic unicycles there. It’s feather-light compared to most
other MUnis (actually has anti-gravity compared to Kris Holm’s!). I have added a
suspension seat post and cycle computer, and it’s still light. This makes it
ride real easy over things, especially when the trail turns uphill.

All I have to do is put a wider rim on it. I didn’t know any better back when I
got a nice, narrow Campagnolo MTB racing-type rim. For MUni, there is no doubt
that “wider is better!”

Roger makes the carbon frames to order, and you add your own hardware.
So depending what you add, his may still be the most expensive unicycle
you can buy.

There is also the Hunter, a custom frame made famous by Bruce Bundy. It is also
the frame design that inspired the Telford. But we are still waiting for the
official release of Hunter-framed MUnis for general purchase…

Stay on top, John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone (reply to jfoss@unicycling.com)
http://www.unicycling.com

“Downhill sucks.” - George Peck, on the downhill course at NUC '99

RE: The best

> There is also the Hunter, a custom frame made famous by Bruce Bundy. It is
> also the frame design that inspired the Telford. But we are still waiting for
> the official release of Hunter-framed MUnis for general purchase…
>
> Stay on top, John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone
>
The Hunter is currently available as a “frame only” at Unicycle Source. I’m
not sure what hub fits it, but it seems a great choice for someone wanting to
build a muni.

Peter

RE: The best

Has anyone seen this Hunter Frame ? Are there web sites with photos ?

> > There is also the Hunter, a custom frame made famous by Bruce Bundy. It
> is
> > also the frame design that inspired the Telford. But we are still
> waiting
> > for the official release of Hunter-framed MUnis for general purchase…
> >
> > Stay on top, John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone
> >
> The Hunter is currently available as a “frame only” at Unicycle Source. I’m
> not sure what hub fits it, but it seems a great choice for someone wanting to
> build a muni.
>
> Peter

RE: The best

> Has anyone seen this Hunter Frame ? Are there web sites with photos ?

Try this one: http://www.bundy.org/

John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone (reply to jfoss@unicycling.com)
http://www.unicycling.com

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Re: The best

Kip Koski wrote:
>
> So in the newsgroups opinion, what is THE best Muni or ATU? We’re talkin the
> best in the catagorys you deem most important. So? So?

I like the Telford the best. Great design (both mechanically and looks), and
lots of customizable options. More info and specs at:
http://www.telford-design.com

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Re: The best

Kip Koski <ki@sopris.net> wrote:
: So in the newsgroups opinion, what is THE best Muni or ATU? We’re talkin the
: best in the catagorys you deem most important. So? So?

If I were to buy another Muni, I think I’d get a DMATU with one of DMs splined
hubs , DMs are bombproof, wonderfull unis and the DMATUS I’ve seen have all
looked wonderfull. I think they were all custom builds so the riders choice of
pedals, spokes, rims etc.

In my opion the DMATU just pips the carbon fibre into first place. sarah

Re: The best

John Foss wrote:
> BTW, I still can’t send directly to Mr. Koski. All messages are returned with
> an error message something like “address not recognized.” The address is
> “ki@sopris.net”. Is that right?

Jacob said the email address should be kip@sopris.net - either the “ki” given in
his return address is a typo or a subtle spamtrap…

Regards, Mark.

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Re: Wider is Better?

You say wider is better? I’ve been having trouble hopping up sidehills on my
MUni. I’ve got a 2.6" Gazzaloddi on a 28 mm Mavic 121 rim. There is enough air
in the tire that I don’t bottom out. Much more air and stairs start bucking me
off! So I can’t afford to add more air. But on any sidehills worth hopping up,
the tire just folds over and the unicycle goes sideways instead of up and down.
Result? No upward progress, and sometimes a loss of traction & a dismount.

So— is the answer just a wider rim?

I’ve been looking at the HED db45a, a 45mm wide downhill rim that even comes in
some sort of frog green. It’s about $75, which makes it cheaper than a Sun
Doublewide. Can anybody speak from experience here?

Chris Reeder

John Foss wrote:

>
> All I have to do is put a wider rim on it. I didn’t know any better back when
> I got a nice, narrow Campagnolo MTB racing-type rim. For MUni, there is no
> doubt that “wider is better!”

Re: The best

Kip Koski asked:
>So in the newsgroups opinion, what is THE best Muni or ATU?

And most respondents agreed on the Telford.

Has anyone in the UK got one of these? Can I have a go at the next BMW?


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Re: The best

I haven’t ridden the DMATU, Hunter, or the Carbon Fibre unis. I have a Telford
and Pashley.

My vote goes for the Telford–as a general all-round off road muni. The splined
axle and cromoly cranks on the DMATU make it the choice for Trials and North
Shore Vancouver rides.

The Telford is beautiful–and beautifully engineered. The options–including
suspension–are fully thought out and well realized. The wheel options allow the
uni to be used in many different ways. Its axle is stronger than almost anyone
will ever need–and the bearing holders are so massive that they can be
re-machined if larger bearings and axles (splined or otherwise) become
available.

I’ve had the head framebuilder at R&E Cycles (builders of Rodriguez tandem and
single bikes) check out my Telford. He was very impressed, and had nothing but
good things to say.

David Maxfield Bainbridge Island, WA

Re: The best

Yeah, it kip@sopris.net kip not ki thats probably my fault.

“Mark Wiggins” <M.Wiggins@ftel.co.uk> wrote in message
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> John Foss wrote:
> > BTW, I still can’t send directly to Mr. Koski. All messages are returned
> > with an error message something like “address not recognized.” The
address
> > is “ki@sopris.net”. Is that right?
>
> Jacob said the email address should be kip@sopris.net - either the “ki” given
> in his return address is a typo or a subtle spamtrap…
>
> Regards, Mark.
>
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Re: The best

Also is there a Muni event planned for the NUC? If there is how do I register?

Thanks for all the replys, sorry for the hassles John.

“Mark Wiggins” <M.Wiggins@ftel.co.uk> wrote in message
news:38D11A24.429E69A2@ftel.co.uk
> John Foss wrote:
> > BTW, I still can’t send directly to Mr. Koski. All messages are returned
> > with an error message something like “address not recognized.” The
address
> > is “ki@sopris.net”. Is that right?
>
> Jacob said the email address should be kip@sopris.net - either the “ki” given
> in his return address is a typo or a subtle spamtrap…
>
> Regards, Mark.
>
> –
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Fujitsu Telecom Europe Ltd,| o Solihull Parkway, | In the land of the
> pedestrian, /|\ Birmingham Business Park, | the one-wheeled man is king. <<
> Birmingham, ENGLAND. | O
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> It’s back !! Birmingham Circus Convention returns 29th April, 2000 !! Check
> out http://www.bhamcircus.co.uk